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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FreeZe sc2
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom121 Posts
July 01 2013 17:49 GMT
#31361
On July 02 2013 02:33 Myrmidon wrote:
What's your current system? Does it have DDR3 RAM? If not, you need to buy that as well.

Is there any particular reason you want to spend extra on SLI support playing the kinds of games you listed?

You can afford a Haswell i5, so that and some B85/H87 would be where you're going (unless you really want SLI), but the particulars are to be determined, I guess.


ive got a i5 650, biostar th55b motherbored, 8gb ddr2 ram, some random 650w power supply, msi nvidia gtx 560ti. Well im not really bothered about sli, ill properly never do it.
| BlinG | Grubby | AcE | Squirtle | MC | PartinG | NesTea | Lau | TT1 | MaNa | Elfi | InCa | KiWiKaKi | 13abyKnight | slivko I Fraer | FrCoolTea | <3 all these beasts! |
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 17:55:01
July 01 2013 17:53 GMT
#31362
Are you sure its ddr2? First Gen i5 should definitely be ddr3.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
FreeZe sc2
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom121 Posts
July 01 2013 18:00 GMT
#31363
On July 02 2013 02:53 Alryk wrote:
Are you sure its ddr2? First Gen i5 should definitely be ddr3.


sorry, i looked at it wrong it's ddr3
| BlinG | Grubby | AcE | Squirtle | MC | PartinG | NesTea | Lau | TT1 | MaNa | Elfi | InCa | KiWiKaKi | 13abyKnight | slivko I Fraer | FrCoolTea | <3 all these beasts! |
Heartscry
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
July 01 2013 18:56 GMT
#31364
Hello chaps, how this won't be too vague. Looking to upgrade that which I already have - current system specs are

Mobo: Asus P5Q3

HDD: Western Digital 500Gb

CPU: Intel Quadcore Q6600 2.4Ghz
Aftermarket Zalmon cooling fan.

GPU: Gigabyte ultra durable 4870 1Gb GV-R487D5-1GD

RAM: DDR3 OCZ PC3 10666 Gold Series 3x1GB

PSU: Powerstation 2 650W


What is your budget?

I'd like to spend about £250 - £350.

What is your resolution?

1920 x 1080, HD ready - with decent speed internet to run 720 or 1080 + p streams

What are you using it for?

Gaming and watching streams - not streaming myself. I usually play WoW, Sc2 and League of Legends, but looking to future proof too. Looking to play these all on ultra settings with little frame drops.

What is your upgrade cycle?

1-2 years.

When do you plan on upgrading it?

Immediately - if I can get a few decent ideas together, I ll order the parts,


Do you plan on overclocking?

Probably not, but if I CrossFire a second GPU it would be fairly straightforward in certain respects. Case is well ventilated and clean.

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Same as the answer previously - I actually had a 7900 in CrossFire but a hot Korean summer day and a 8hour sc2 session, along with me leaving it on a dusty floor that day cooked it. My own fault, really started to learn more about maintenance after that!

Where are you buying your parts from?

English websites, especially welcome to recommendations.

I don't need any peripherals like the keyboard, mouse, screen etc etc.

Ultimately, I'm really looking to just give my computer a bit of an upgrade and would appreciate some advice from more knowledgeable chaps as to where to put my money first for most noticeable improvement.

Thanks very much, feel free to PM me or post on this thread.
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
July 01 2013 18:57 GMT
#31365
Hey guys,

My gtx260 is dying and I want an upgrade. All I play is sc2 but I do pref nvidia as i occasionally watch 3d movies with their software. Looking to spend 100-200.. any suggestions ?
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 21:20:10
July 01 2013 21:09 GMT
#31366
A 650 or 650ti is more than adequate if you prefer Nvidia.

edit: At these prices though, the stock 650 is similar to the gtx 260. Not much of a upgrade but since you're only playing SC2 it doesn't really matter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127725

Price point a 7790 is a better deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127726
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
July 01 2013 21:20 GMT
#31367
On July 02 2013 03:56 Heartscry wrote:
Hello chaps, how this won't be too vague. Looking to upgrade that which I already have - current system specs are

Mobo: Asus P5Q3

HDD: Western Digital 500Gb

CPU: Intel Quadcore Q6600 2.4Ghz
Aftermarket Zalmon cooling fan.

GPU: Gigabyte ultra durable 4870 1Gb GV-R487D5-1GD

RAM: DDR3 OCZ PC3 10666 Gold Series 3x1GB

PSU: Powerstation 2 650W


What is your budget?

I'd like to spend about £250 - £350.

What is your resolution?

1920 x 1080, HD ready - with decent speed internet to run 720 or 1080 + p streams

What are you using it for?

Gaming and watching streams - not streaming myself. I usually play WoW, Sc2 and League of Legends, but looking to future proof too. Looking to play these all on ultra settings with little frame drops.

What is your upgrade cycle?

1-2 years.

When do you plan on upgrading it?

Immediately - if I can get a few decent ideas together, I ll order the parts,


Do you plan on overclocking?

Probably not, but if I CrossFire a second GPU it would be fairly straightforward in certain respects. Case is well ventilated and clean.

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Same as the answer previously - I actually had a 7900 in CrossFire but a hot Korean summer day and a 8hour sc2 session, along with me leaving it on a dusty floor that day cooked it. My own fault, really started to learn more about maintenance after that!

Where are you buying your parts from?

English websites, especially welcome to recommendations.

I don't need any peripherals like the keyboard, mouse, screen etc etc.

Ultimately, I'm really looking to just give my computer a bit of an upgrade and would appreciate some advice from more knowledgeable chaps as to where to put my money first for most noticeable improvement.

Thanks very much, feel free to PM me or post on this thread.


I admittedly don't know european prices too well, but I'm pretty sure 350 pounds won't be enough to build a full PC? Especially considering you probably want a PSU, I don't think I've ever seen that name...

If you absolutely wanted to put a build up, I think you'd have enough for maybe an i3-3220 and a 7750, but I don't know how much of an improvement that would be over your setup. Somebody more informed on european prices would be better than me though.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
July 01 2013 21:33 GMT
#31368
I'm not from Canada but what is with the shipping prices, its ridiculous. But being spoiled by newegg in the States with their east coast warehouse just across the river D=
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
July 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#31369
On July 02 2013 06:09 Disregard wrote:
A 650 or 650ti is more than adequate if you prefer Nvidia.

edit: At these prices though, the stock 650 is similar to the gtx 260. Not much of a upgrade but since you're only playing SC2 it doesn't really matter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127725

Price point a 7790 is a better deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127726

Thanks for the suggestions.

Yea we do kinda get screwed on shipping. NCIX is our best option i think
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#31370
in the 100$-200$ range, what kind of router should I look for?

I've started reading up, and checking the top router lists. Some names come back often, but most lists disagree with each others.

House is big (sort of), 2 floors and 1 basement. Floor 1 and 2 are the most important (floor has TV + consoles), floor 2 has all my computer. The room in which the router is, the signal is about 100% (not surprising), but as soon as you move out of the room, the signal starts dropping (to something like 85% just a few meters away). Where my TV + consoles are, I'm getting below 50% (hardly enough to multiplayer). Basement, about 15%.

I tested a Dlink dir-835 for a few days. The improvement was insane. I was getting close to 100% everywhere on the 2nd floor. It was also close to 100% in my living room (1st floor with tv + consoles). And it was about 80% in my basement.
I returned it because of negative reviews on the internet.

If my experience with DIR 835 is worth anything, and assuming that the signal is about the same across every router brand, am I right to assume that I should be looking for another router with the N750 range?

I was thinking WD My net central N900 because it also has an integrated HD (I am also looking for a new HD, so I thought this could be interesting) Thoughts?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
July 01 2013 21:37 GMT
#31371
I'd probably try to get a haswell i5 with that budget. The 4870 seems decent, league and sc2 are very cpu bound (i went from fps in the 200's start of game, to fps in the 400-600 range in league with cpu switch) though league fps doesn't really matter, it's already high and minimums are really high (i have like 150-200fps minimum on max settings in that game..)

4870 should be enough, if passmark is any indication, to keep decent FPS on max settings in sc2, to the point where you are definately heavily limited by CPU even in 1v1, so a locked haswell i5 would be a massive, massive upgrade

WoW probably relies on GPU - but you can't really get haswell i5 and upgrade GPU significantly in that budget, i think that's the best upgrade. You can put £100-150+ towards a GPU at a later point in time
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
July 01 2013 21:43 GMT
#31372
On July 02 2013 06:34 groms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:09 Disregard wrote:
A 650 or 650ti is more than adequate if you prefer Nvidia.

edit: At these prices though, the stock 650 is similar to the gtx 260. Not much of a upgrade but since you're only playing SC2 it doesn't really matter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127725

Price point a 7790 is a better deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127726

Thanks for the suggestions.

Yea we do kinda get screwed on shipping. NCIX is our best option i think


650ti
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=76827&vpn=65IGH8DL7AXX&manufacture=Galaxy Technology&promoid=1233

7790
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=83729&vpn=FX779AZNJ4&manufacture=XFX
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
July 01 2013 21:44 GMT
#31373
On July 02 2013 06:43 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:34 groms wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:09 Disregard wrote:
A 650 or 650ti is more than adequate if you prefer Nvidia.

edit: At these prices though, the stock 650 is similar to the gtx 260. Not much of a upgrade but since you're only playing SC2 it doesn't really matter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127725

Price point a 7790 is a better deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127726

Thanks for the suggestions.

Yea we do kinda get screwed on shipping. NCIX is our best option i think


650ti
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=76827&vpn=65IGH8DL7AXX&manufacture=Galaxy Technology&promoid=1233

7790
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=83729&vpn=FX779AZNJ4&manufacture=XFX

Oh sorry lol I didn't mean for u to search for them ;p

I found them on NCIX thanks for the help really appreciate it :D
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 01 2013 21:50 GMT
#31374
Newegg has like five distribution centres nationwide whereas NCIX only has two and the rest of the retailers have one. Plus Canada Post is a crown corporation whereas USPS isn't.

A GTX 650 Ti would probably be your best option at $133: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD8829 There was a GTX 650 Ti $120 a few days ago.
LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
July 02 2013 03:30 GMT
#31375
What is your budget?

1000-1200

What is your resolution?

1920x1200

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming and day-to-day tasks typical of students.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Definitely won't be upgrading until 3 or 4 years from now.

When do you plan on building it?

Mid July-Early August, pretty flexible due to it being summer time.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online would be preferable, but a Fry's is not that far away if it has better deals.

Thanks for any help you can give me TL
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
July 02 2013 03:35 GMT
#31376
First build request. thanks a lot

What is your budget?
500ish USD
I already have CPU and monitor, so I'll need:
Motherboard
PSU
Case
GPU
HD or SSD

What is your resolution?
1920 monitor

What are you using it for?
Gaming + streaming for wedding

What is your upgrade cycle?
4yrs

When do you plan on building it?
All built and tested by August

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, i have i5-3550, and I am building around it.

Do you need an Operating System?
I have Win7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online or in-store both are fine with me.

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 02 2013 04:01 GMT
#31377
On July 02 2013 12:30 LeapofFaith wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

1000-1200

What is your resolution?

1920x1200

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming and day-to-day tasks typical of students.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Definitely won't be upgrading until 3 or 4 years from now.

When do you plan on building it?

Mid July-Early August, pretty flexible due to it being summer time.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online would be preferable, but a Fry's is not that far away if it has better deals.

Thanks for any help you can give me TL


Note: B85 doesn't support 2400MHz memory so it'll run at 1600MHz max but holy shit, that RAM deal is just simply amazing. I suggest purchasing that ASAP, you probably won't see anything better until Black Friday.

Note 2: NCIX sales end on Wednesday. Fractal Design Define R4 is typically $90-$100 depending on the variant and Samsung 840 is typically $170-$180. So not a big deal if you want to wait.

Note 3: If you need a burner, add one for ~$16

Total: $980

Fractal Design Define R4 @ $75
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75045&promoid=1316

Samsung 840 250gb @ $165
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77211&promoid=1316

G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4gb 2400MHz @ $60 (with promo code EMCXPVM42, ends 7/4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666

ASUS GTX 760 DirectCuII & Intel Core i5 4670 @ $465
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1355586

Gigabyte B85M-D3H @ $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128607

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Western Digital Blue 1TB @ $70 (or whatever size is appropriate for you)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 02 2013 04:30 GMT
#31378
On July 02 2013 12:35 nosliw wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
First build request. thanks a lot

What is your budget?
500ish USD
I already have CPU and monitor, so I'll need:
Motherboard
PSU
Case
GPU
HD or SSD

What is your resolution?
1920 monitor

What are you using it for?
Gaming + streaming for wedding

What is your upgrade cycle?
4yrs

When do you plan on building it?
All built and tested by August

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, i have i5-3550, and I am building around it.

Do you need an Operating System?
I have Win7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online or in-store both are fine with me.


$575, not sure if this is too high? If it's too high then you can get a Samsung 840 120gb instead for ~$100. You didn't make mention of what games you intend to play so not sure what your graphical requirements will be. If you plan on playing some of the newer releases on high settings, you should consider getting less expensive case, power supply, and motherboard to be able to get a better GPU. Also if you don't care about quality case and power supply, you can also cut down on them and just save the money.

MSI ZH77A-G43 @ $85 ($75 after mail in rebates)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130674

G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4gb 2400MHz @ $60 (with promo code EMCXPVM42, ends 7/4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666

Gigabyte GTX 650 Ti @ $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125447

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Fractal Design Define R4 @ $75
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75045&promoid=1316

Samsung 840 250gb @ $165
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77211&promoid=1316
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
July 02 2013 04:40 GMT
#31379
On July 02 2013 13:30 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 12:35 nosliw wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
First build request. thanks a lot

What is your budget?
500ish USD
I already have CPU and monitor, so I'll need:
Motherboard
PSU
Case
GPU
HD or SSD

What is your resolution?
1920 monitor

What are you using it for?
Gaming + streaming for wedding

What is your upgrade cycle?
4yrs

When do you plan on building it?
All built and tested by August

Do you plan on overclocking?
No, i have i5-3550, and I am building around it.

Do you need an Operating System?
I have Win7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online or in-store both are fine with me.


$575, not sure if this is too high? If it's too high then you can get a Samsung 840 120gb instead for ~$100. You didn't make mention of what games you intend to play so not sure what your graphical requirements will be. If you plan on playing some of the newer releases on high settings, you should consider getting less expensive case, power supply, and motherboard to be able to get a better GPU. Also if you don't care about quality case and power supply, you can also cut down on them and just save the money.

MSI ZH77A-G43 @ $85 ($75 after mail in rebates)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130674

G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4gb 2400MHz @ $60 (with promo code EMCXPVM42, ends 7/4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666

Gigabyte GTX 650 Ti @ $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125447

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Fractal Design Define R4 @ $75
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75045&promoid=1316

Samsung 840 250gb @ $165
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77211&promoid=1316


Oh. Games like LoL, which doesn't really need that good of graphics... What are some cheaper GPU and motherboard and case? Also, because I don't need to OC, I don't need Z series motherboard right?
LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 04:45:05
July 02 2013 04:44 GMT
#31380
On July 02 2013 13:01 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On July 02 2013 12:30 LeapofFaith wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

1000-1200

What is your resolution?

1920x1200

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming and day-to-day tasks typical of students.

What is your upgrade cycle?

Definitely won't be upgrading until 3 or 4 years from now.

When do you plan on building it?

Mid July-Early August, pretty flexible due to it being summer time.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope.

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online would be preferable, but a Fry's is not that far away if it has better deals.

Thanks for any help you can give me TL


Note: B85 doesn't support 2400MHz memory so it'll run at 1600MHz max but holy shit, that RAM deal is just simply amazing. I suggest purchasing that ASAP, you probably won't see anything better until Black Friday.

Note 2: NCIX sales end on Wednesday. Fractal Design Define R4 is typically $90-$100 depending on the variant and Samsung 840 is typically $170-$180. So not a big deal if you want to wait.

Note 3: If you need a burner, add one for ~$16

Total: $980

Fractal Design Define R4 @ $75
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75045&promoid=1316

Samsung 840 250gb @ $165
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77211&promoid=1316

G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4gb 2400MHz @ $60 (with promo code EMCXPVM42, ends 7/4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666

ASUS GTX 760 DirectCuII & Intel Core i5 4670 @ $465
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1355586

Gigabyte B85M-D3H @ $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128607

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Western Digital Blue 1TB @ $70 (or whatever size is appropriate for you)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339


Will it make a big difference that it doesn't support 2400MHz and will instead run it on 1600MHz? Btw, thanks for the help!
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