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OK how about this!
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/fkinallen/saved/1QNY
I changed the HSF to Noctua NH-D14
I changed the MOBO to a UD4H because i can get a deal over the UD3H at microcenter
(WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE between UD3H and UD4H???)
Also went to the 250GB SSD over the 120gb
I was going to get the hd 7770, but i get 4 free games including crysis 3, BioShock, Far Cry 3, if i get the 7870 at microcenter.
Ditched the sound card.
So only thing left is my PSU might be a little overkill, but not sure how much money i will save in downgrading that, and not to mention i will have some headroom for the future.
Im getting ready for christmas in july LOL
Critique away gentlemen!
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UD4H is basically just a UD3H with more phases.
Why are you getting a Seasonic M12II? It's a good unit and all but it's dated and only comes with two PCIe connectors so you'll be using adapters for CrossfireX... which sort of defeats the purpose of modular since you're going to be using two strands of molex.
Rosewill Capstone 650 is $70 right now with promo code.. but its non modular: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071
Seasonic G 650 is semi-modular and is $75 with promo code 72HRSL093 , ends today though. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118
Both are significantly better then the dated M12II Bronze.
Your list is missing memory, I guess that's already bought?
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If buying Noctua, the NH-U14S has very similar (slightly better) performance compared to NH-D14 and uses a single, larger fan. I'd definitely go with that cooler because it will be inaudible most of the time. NH-D14 I only see as interesting if planning to tweak by adding or replacing fans.
UD4H has better audio, so probably interesting for you as you wanted a sound card.
Performance wise, GTX 760 beats the HD 7870 (and HD 7950) at similar $250, but I don't know about all those games you get, what that's worth for you. The cards themselves are all overkill for SC2 at least. That's a rough comparison of cards: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html (GTX 760 is missing as it's newly released)
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On June 27 2013 17:32 skyR wrote:UD4H is basically just a UD3H with more phases. Why are you getting a Seasonic M12II? It's a good unit and all but it's dated and only comes with two PCIe connectors so you'll be using adapters for CrossfireX... which sort of defeats the purpose of modular since you're going to be using two strands of molex. Rosewill Capstone 650 is $70 right now with promo code.. but its non modular: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071Seasonic G 650 is semi-modular and is $75 with promo code 72HRSL093 , ends today though. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118Both are significantly better then the dated M12II Bronze. Your list is missing memory, I guess that's already bought?
yeah i forgot to change the memory when someone said the one i had chosen was a bit on the pricey side, still looking for a deal on some memory.
I picked that psu because it was on the r/buildapc link> http://www.logicalincrements.com/ i used their chart as a basic starting point. so do i want non modular or semi?
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On June 27 2013 17:40 Ropid wrote:If buying Noctua, the NH-U14S has very similar (slightly better) performance compared to NH-D14 and uses a single, larger fan. I'd definitely go with that cooler because it will be inaudible most of the time. NH-D14 I only see as interesting if planning to tweak by adding or replacing fans. UD4H has better audio, so probably interesting for you as you wanted a sound card. Performance wise, GTX 760 beats the HD 7870 (and HD 7950) at similar $250, but I don't know about all those games you get, what that's worth for you. The cards themselves are all overkill for SC2 at least. That's a rough comparison of cards: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html (GTX 760 is missing as it's newly released)
i dont have to buy noctura, is there a better cooler i should look into? Someone earlier mentioned "silver arrow" is that a better option. I really dont mind shelling out a few extra $$ on a good cooler, its always hot in my room so i imagine that wont be a good thing.
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You'll probably want modular since you're doing CrossfireX and spending so much already.
I highly doubt you're going to find something better than the 2400MHz at $70 that was linked on the previous page.
NH-D14, Silver Arrow, and Phantek are all similar so it doesn't matter what you get. Each have its pros and cons.
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On June 27 2013 17:59 FkinAllen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 17:40 Ropid wrote:If buying Noctua, the NH-U14S has very similar (slightly better) performance compared to NH-D14 and uses a single, larger fan. I'd definitely go with that cooler because it will be inaudible most of the time. NH-D14 I only see as interesting if planning to tweak by adding or replacing fans. UD4H has better audio, so probably interesting for you as you wanted a sound card. Performance wise, GTX 760 beats the HD 7870 (and HD 7950) at similar $250, but I don't know about all those games you get, what that's worth for you. The cards themselves are all overkill for SC2 at least. That's a rough comparison of cards: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html (GTX 760 is missing as it's newly released) i dont have to buy noctura, is there a better cooler i should look into? Someone earlier mentioned "silver arrow" is that a better option. I really dont mind shelling out a few extra $$ on a good cooler, its always hot in my room so i imagine that wont be a good thing.
For Noctua, Thermalright, Phanteks, I didn't see good prices in US shops. Thermalright has some very good deals in the EU. Zalman also know what they are doing from what I've seen in reviews, and the Zalman coolers can be had with good prices in the US.
For the EU, people suggest to buy the Thermalright HR-02 Macho, as it's strong but still somewhat cheap. It's below 40 € in a lot of places. The Zalman CNPS14x could be comparable for the US if you also get it cheap, below $40. That's its price at newegg.com with mail in rebate.
The Zalman CNPS12x is pretty good but expensive and perhaps noisy as it has three fans. The CNPS14x uses the same approach to cooling, is a bit larger, but ships with only a single fan in the middle position. The single fan is what makes it so much cheaper than the CNPS12x, I think, but the cooler itself doesn't seem to be bad at all despite those $35 at newegg. The only bad thing I've seen is people mentioning the installation of the Zalman is complicated, but a Youtube video should help in the worst case.
EDIT: I looked around a bit, and it seems for the very best air coolers, Noctua has the best prices in the US. For a single fan, the Noctua NH-U14S would be the best cooler. It's actually better than the NH-D14, probably because it's newer. If you want a two tower design with two fans, you should look at the Phanteks PH-TC14PE at newegg.com instead of the NH-D14. Personally, I'd worry that one might be noisy. The U14S is reportedly very quiet at all times.
The difference in performance between something like the Macho or CNPS14x and the top coolers isn't very large actually. They also already use large fans like the top coolers, which would be the best argument against the cheap Coolermaster Hyper 212 you originally had on your list.
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On June 27 2013 18:22 skyR wrote:
You'll probably want modular since you're doing CrossfireX and spending so much already.
I highly doubt you're going to find something better than the 2400MHz at $70 that was linked on the previous page.
NH-D14, Silver Arrow, and Phantek are all similar so it doesn't matter what you get. Each have its pros and cons.
If he gets the g-skill RAM, he'll definitely want the u14s over the d14. I'd be very surprised if that RAM fit under the d14.
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Why would you be surprised. Noctua NH-D14 has clearance for heatspreaders up to 44mm tall. The Ripjaws Z is just as tall as the Ripjaws X which is 40mm.
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Well that's what I get for eyeballing (poorly) instead of checking the specs!
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Can anyone estimate for me how much power an averagely overclocked 4670K and GTX 780 build would use?
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about 300-350w under load
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I just got my 770, under unigine valley and crysis 3 it's not passing ~60-80% of it's TDP which is 230w (assuming i know how to read these graphs correctly and they report accurately.. i would assume so for power limits)
So 300-350w under load indeed for a 780 + i5. Overclocking CPU can add like 70w or something, GPU if you have voltage unlocked model and push it hard or you can push it in general and are looking for a high overclock is what makes a dent in your power usage
Speaking of my 770.. runs so damn cool, wow (windforce model). 80% fan maxing at like below 70c in crysis 3 (i forgot exact numbers, but stupidly low) it makes so little noise, i can just run 1250 on the core and 7.9ghz on the vram and it shrugs it off like nothing.
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On June 28 2013 04:22 Vestrel wrote:
Can anyone estimate for me how much power an averagely overclocked 4670K and GTX 780 build would use?
You'd maybe hit 400 if you overclocked both and had a tank full of hdd's. I'd imagine somewhere around 350 max.
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On June 28 2013 05:01 Cyro wrote:
I just got my 770, under unigine valley and crysis 3 it's not passing ~60-80% of it's TDP which is 230w (assuming i know how to read these graphs correctly and they report accurately.. i would assume so for power limits)
So 300-350w under load indeed for a 780 + i5. Overclocking CPU can add like 70w or something, GPU if you have voltage unlocked model and push it hard or you can push it in general and are looking for a high overclock is what makes a dent in your power usage
Speaking of my 770.. runs so damn cool, wow (windforce model). 80% fan maxing at like 75c in crysis 3
Yeah Gigabyte 770 Windforce cooling is so good, I can't even get above 70c in valley and 75c in games. I'm a little disappointed by my attainable memory overclocks based on others, but on the flip side, my core overclocks nicely and that's more important from what I've read.
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What core and memory do you have? Seems like i'm between 7.9 and 8 on the memory (1975*4 = 7900) and 1300 core might be out of reach. Temps and noise is so ridiculously low
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Well it's a bit confusing which core people ask about, but my afterburner OSD was saying 1356 in valley for core. And I can't even get to 7400 on memory.
I haven't pushed core as far as I maybe could because I've been estimating what I should be able to get on memory based on core clock and haven't had a ton of time.
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I show higher mhz core in valley , i think that's the boost clock or something
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Yeah it's never clear to me exactly what people are referring to when they're talking about good clocks. A guy on OCN said 1356 boost clock is quite good though, so I'll take that just to be happy with myself.
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When your GPU (AMD 5770) can run all the game you play (Diablo 3, League of Legends...) should you upgrade because a newer GPU (7950) is on special at 269$?
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