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chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
July 16 2010 07:40 GMT
#21
yes i just cancelled too. with no info its too much money to throw away.
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skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
July 16 2010 08:11 GMT
#22
Why not get an Aus copy? It will be in english and on the SEA servers (that's the same as chinese right? or do china have their own specific servers?), which is what is asked for in the OP
Tritone
Profile Joined June 2010
Japan76 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 09:41:16
July 16 2010 09:35 GMT
#23
I was thinking about getting the SEA version, but I'm not sure how bad the lag will be. I am not sure China will be on the same servers, can anyone confirm or deny that?
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 23:16:32
July 16 2010 10:34 GMT
#24
Update: This only worked for the beta (sorry), if you're interested in using the English client in non-English regions for the release version, see: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139082

Tritone: I'm currently in the US, but I frequently play on the Taiwan servers with the Traditional Chinese client using the English interface. I have also succeeded in using this client to connect to the US servers. Here is how it's done:

Step One: Download both the enUS Client and the zhTW client:
Note: This will require two battle.net accounts (one in the TW/KR region and the other in the US region) both with access to the beta (or I suspect upon release access to the game.) That being said, if you don't have a US account I'm sure you've got a friend who would send you the downloader. It's only a few megabytes and it's not tied to your account.
Download zhTW Client: https://tw.battle.net/account/management/sc2/download.xml?region=TW&lang=zh_TW&platform=win
Download enUS Client: https://us.battle.net/account/management/sc2/download.xml?platform=win&lang=en_US&region=US

Step Two: Install the enUS client. (wherever you like. The defaults are fine.)

Step Three: Prepare for zhTW install by deleting shared configuration folders.
(You can just move these somewhere if you're worried about screwing anything up. However, all of these files are recreated on launch if they don't happen to be there. Nothing to worry about.)
Note: If you're using a version of Windows other than XP these files may be in slightly different locations. They should be pretty easy to find. If you need additional help, feel free to ask for it, and I'll figure out where they show up on my other computers.


Delete/Move: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Blizzard Entertainment\StarCraft II Beta
Delete/Move: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net
Delete/Move: C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR_WINDOWS_USERNAME\My Documents\StarCraft II Beta

Step Four: Install the zhTW client. (wherever you like. The defaults are fine.)
Note: The two clients default to different install directories, so you should have no trouble with the install.

Note: In the event of a battle.net update, you should repeat the following steps (5-8).

Step Five: Run the enUS client, let it patch if necessary, exit the game.

Step Six: Run the zhTW client, let it patch if necessary, exit the game.

Step Seven: Copy locale data from enUS client to zhTW client.
(If you want to play on US using the Traditional Chinese client, you can probably do these in the opposite direction.)

From the C:\Program Files\StarCraft II Beta\Mods\Core.SC2Mod folder to the C:\Program Files\StarCraft II 封測\Mods\Core.SC2Mod folder copy:
enUS.SC2Assets
enUS.SC2Data


From the C:\Program Files\StarCraft II Beta\Mods\Liberty.SC2Mod folder to the C:\Program Files\StarCraft II 封測\Mods\Liberty.SC2Mod folder copy:
enUS.SC2Assets
enUS.SC2Data


From the C:\Program Files\StarCraft II Beta\Mods\LibertyMulti.SC2Mod folder to the C:\Program Files\StarCraft II 封測\Mods\LibertyMulti.SC2Mod folder copy:
enUS.SC2Data

In the C:\Program Files\StarCraft II 封測\Versions\ folder you will find a number of folders (possibly just one, but most likely more) titled like Base123456. You should find matching folder names in the C:\Program Files\StarCraft II Beta\Versions\ folder. From each C:\Program Files\StarCraft II Beta\Versions\ Base123456 folder to the MATCHING C:\Program Files\StarCraft II 封測\Versions\ Base123456 folder copy:
patch-enUS.SC2Archive

Finally, Step Eight (How lucky, eight steps!): Open in notepad "C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR_WINDOWS_USERNAME\My Documents\StarCraft II Beta\Variables.txt"

There are two important lines in this file:
localeidassets=
localeiddata=

To play in English, change them to read:
localeidassets=enUS
localeiddata=enUS

To play in Traditional Chinese, change them to read:
localeidassets=zhTW
localeiddata=zhTW


Save the file, and enjoy!

Final Notes: Leave both copies installed. You'll need them that way when it comes time to patch. I imagine this process will change some with the retail release, but it shouldn't change substantially. This process will most likely work in reverse if you wish to use Traditional Chinese on the US Servers. (The voices are way cooler.) Also, there may be a way to do this by just swapping common files, but this method doesn't require overwriting or renaming any data files.

I hope this is helpful. If anyone has any questions, feel free to send me a PM or ask here.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 16 2010 10:46 GMT
#25
Note: If you're looking at which full version of the game to buy, to play on the Taiwanese servers, you'll want to buy a Taiwanese copy (for your Taiwanese Battle.net account) and then just download a US version to augment your zhTW copy. I'm 99% certain this is how that works. If anyone knows differently (or the same but with more certainty) feel free to let me know. I'll ask my Blizzard buddy this weekend to be sure on this.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
July 16 2010 10:49 GMT
#26
Girlscoutcookie: that's complicated haha
Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
July 16 2010 12:47 GMT
#27
On July 16 2010 19:49 emucxg wrote:
Girlscoutcookie: that's complicated haha

It's really a lot simpler than it looks. I was just very verbose with my instructions so no one missed a step. The most complicated part of the process is really changing the variables.txt file. Everything else is just a little bit of installing and copying files.
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
July 16 2010 13:02 GMT
#28
On July 13 2010 15:20 Tritone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2010 15:05 Subversion wrote:
Maybe they're saying that the US key will only work registering on a US server?


I think that's exactly what is going on. Although the support drone never came right out and said it, that appears to be the mechanism involved in the region lock.


No, it's not so much a region lock like that. It's more about the differences in the client. Different countries have different laws/regulations. Not all of them require their own client/system, but I'm sure some do. China may be one such country that requires you to buy the particular Chinese client, while there are other countries for which that is not the case.

I don't work for Blizzard or know the specifics, but whenever something looks rough around the edges like this it's usually the "fault" of individual country law as opposed to some weird corporate rule. It could also be that China has particular pricing which therefore necessitates a unique client as well. I think the US and EU clients however for sure do not have this limitation. You could make a new bnet account in that region, attach either client's key, and play. I'm not 100%, but that matches everything they've been saying so far. Seems like China is a special rule.
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Tritone
Profile Joined June 2010
Japan76 Posts
July 16 2010 14:47 GMT
#29
Hi Takkara

That's an interesting theory, but it doesn't fit with what I've been told. From an email exchange with a Blizzard support rep: "Please also keep in mind that you will not be able to access your account if you are using a different regional game version (other than your home regions version). For example, you will be unable to connect to the North American realms if using a Chinese, Korean, European, or Taiwanese version of the game."

So it seems like it's not just about China. I don't know though, they aren't being very specific about the exact region protection measures in place.
Zemtex
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden31 Posts
July 16 2010 15:01 GMT
#30
I don't know why blizzard won't just put cross regional server thingies into SC2 this is just plain stupid and no lan support?

They force people to hack the game in order to do so..... and great step by step Girlscoutcookie
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Girlscoutcookie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States244 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 23:17:41
July 16 2010 16:21 GMT
#31
On July 17 2010 00:01 Zemtex wrote:
I don't know why blizzard won't just put cross regional server thingies into SC2 this is just plain stupid and no lan support?

They force people to hack the game in order to do so..... and great step by step Girlscoutcookie

They do plan to implement cross region play, just not at launch, so this is just a temporary stopgap. Also, thanks!

References:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25399603041&postId=254795749937#254795749937
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171934229&sid=3000&pageNo=4#69
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25170780404&postId=254795951424#254795951424
SC2 Relocalizer - http://bit.ly/dl9icw
Tritone
Profile Joined June 2010
Japan76 Posts
July 19 2010 04:41 GMT
#32
On July 16 2010 17:11 skipgamer wrote:
Why not get an Aus copy? It will be in english and on the SEA servers (that's the same as chinese right? or do china have their own specific servers?), which is what is asked for in the OP


I emailed Blizzard about this because that would be great news. But unfortunately, that's not the case. "The Chinese region has its own unique set of servers dedicated for that region specifically."
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 05:33:15
July 19 2010 05:32 GMT
#33
http://sclegacy.com/news/23-sc2/787-starcraft-ii-will-support-multiple-languages

So in all likelihoods, you should probably buy the Chinese version.

You know, I have a feeling this is why Blues never talk about anything. Shits probably pretty confusing when you're working in a game development company 4900 employees strong.
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mcneebs
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada391 Posts
July 19 2010 08:17 GMT
#34
I'm in the same boat as you! I'm going to play on the US server instead of the Asian one, but I think you can grab the Singaporean client or whatever AUS uses and still play on the Asian server.
You do it to yourself. Just you. You and no one else.
mcneebs
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada391 Posts
July 19 2010 08:20 GMT
#35
On July 19 2010 14:32 Half wrote:
http://sclegacy.com/news/23-sc2/787-starcraft-ii-will-support-multiple-languages

So in all likelihoods, you should probably buy the Chinese version.

You know, I have a feeling this is why Blues never talk about anything. Shits probably pretty confusing when you're working in a game development company 4900 employees strong.

Okay wait. So I can play in English on the Chinese client?
You do it to yourself. Just you. You and no one else.
Tritone
Profile Joined June 2010
Japan76 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 08:30:18
July 19 2010 08:29 GMT
#36
On July 19 2010 17:17 mcneebs wrote:
I'm in the same boat as you! I'm going to play on the US server instead of the Asian one, but I think you can grab the Singaporean client or whatever AUS uses and still play on the Asian server.


Definitely let us know how that works out. I'd go that route myself, but I'm worried about the lag.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 19 2010 08:31 GMT
#37
If you can't get an English copy to work on China servers, just use a Chinese versions. You can find out were the menu buttons are and I'm sure the hotkeys are all the same.
Tritone
Profile Joined June 2010
Japan76 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 08:59:33
July 19 2010 08:34 GMT
#38
On July 19 2010 14:32 Half wrote:
http://sclegacy.com/news/23-sc2/787-starcraft-ii-will-support-multiple-languages

So in all likelihoods, you should probably buy the Chinese version.

You know, I have a feeling this is why Blues never talk about anything. Shits probably pretty confusing when you're working in a game development company 4900 employees strong.


This was great news and I decided to check with the Blizzard support guy I've been pestering, just got this reply:

"I just doubled checked on your specific request and each purchase of StarCraft II will be set in a specific language and also only able to connect to the region it was purchased for. For example, if you purchase the NA copy of StarCraft II, you will only be able to play in English on the NA servers. If you purchase the Chinese version, the game will be in Chinese and can only connect to those regional servers. At this time, there are no language packs available to change the language for any specific region."

So it looks like they might have reneged on the "every language downloadable for every region" declaration. I don't know, though; two people from Blizzard are giving conflicting information so I don't know who to believe.
mcneebs
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada391 Posts
July 19 2010 09:18 GMT
#39
On July 19 2010 17:29 Tritone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 17:17 mcneebs wrote:
I'm in the same boat as you! I'm going to play on the US server instead of the Asian one, but I think you can grab the Singaporean client or whatever AUS uses and still play on the Asian server.


Definitely let us know how that works out. I'd go that route myself, but I'm worried about the lag.


I do it now on the beta, a little lag but nothing terrible. Definitely playable.
You do it to yourself. Just you. You and no one else.
Tritone
Profile Joined June 2010
Japan76 Posts
July 19 2010 09:23 GMT
#40
Hmm, that's interesting. My internet is so slow accessing foreign sites I figured there'd definitely be lag. But maybe I'm wrong! Do you mind if I ask what city you live in?
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