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On August 08 2011 10:25 Z3kk wrote:
What would you guys recommend as a really good right-handed mouse? I have sort of a palm/fingertip grip.
I don't know whether it's just me, but on ambidextrous mice, I find that my hand is tilted very slightly so that my fingers are pointed towards the upper-right of the mouse, if that makes sense. This wasn't noticeable until I randomly tried a larger ambidextrous mouse and found that I wasn't holding it "correctly" (just in terms of how it appeared).
Also, are we allowed to use this thread for questions like this? Sorry if we're not :x just appeared that the OP was long-gone and the thread was still living on hehe.
Ergonomic Right Handed:
You have a lot of choices. If you want a right handed mouse that has the best sensor and is widely used by progamers, I'd go with the Razer Deathadder. Even SlayerS Boxer uses it  . Anyways, it doesn't have any tracking problems whatsoever. I'd recommend buying either the normal 3.5g version or the black edition (has rubberized sides and no lights). Mainly a palm/claw grip but I personally fingertip it. Guess i have large hands.
There is also the Logitech g9x which is a decent mouse but has mouse acceleration but when I used it, it didn't affect my gameplay in sc2 but did in FPS games. It is also quite heavy and has a hard to press scroll wheel. Also has interchangeable grips to suit your style. Can switch between palm, fingertip, or claw depending on what type of grip you put on it.
Logitech mx518/g400 (g400 new version with new grip and higher dpi). This mouse has prediction but it is also a very very good mouse. One of my favorite shapes of all my gaming mice. Very good build quality and known to last for a long time. Mainly a palm grip.
CM Storm Spawn - Has a great sensor, slightly inferior to the one in the razer deathadder as this has a lower malfunction speed. Meaning that it will stop tracking at a lower speed than the deathadder. Once you pass around 2 m/s speed, the cursor will stop moving though you will be moving y our mouse. Most sc players don't pass 2 m/s so you shouldn't be worried. Claw grip or fingertip grip. Not palmable (too small).
Mionix Naos 5000dpi or 3200dpi version - has a very good shape and very very comfortable. The 5000 has the same sensor as the logitech g9x (so it has acceleration). The 3200 has prediction.
Ambidextrous:
Then there is the Razer Abyssus which is a favorite in the RTS community. If you get one with the upgraded firmware, you'll be great off, but if you get one without upgraded firmware, its pretty bad. There will be jitter when doing diagonal movement (you do this a lot in sc). It was unbearable in fps games and alright in sc2.
Zowie Mico - good sensor but very buggy at 1600 cpi. Flawless at 400 and 800 cpi setting. Has a unique microswitch which is harder to click than normal mice but has a very good feel (not a con, more of a preference).
My recommendation: CM Storm Spawn. It is a claw/fingertip grip mouse that is right hand only. You can get it for $35.98 @ superbiiz.com shipped. Use the coupon code SURRY5.
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On August 06 2011 20:30 zala2023 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2011 11:20 harDmug wrote:
Cant understand how 400 dpi "isn't enough anymore".. i use an Abyssus at 450dpi, 6/11 in windows and 61% in game with 0 issues at 1600x900 -.- I bet you use palm grip. Those who use claw grip and fingertip grip do not have the room to move their arm as they use base of their hand as point of support. Personally I use fingertip grip and I can move my mouse 1 inch up/down maybe 2 inches left/right. So as you can see, if I use a 400dpi mouse, the highest resolution I can play at would be something like 800x400. Which obviously I cannot do lol. Personally I use my g9x at 3600dpi and I have perfect control over my mouse.
I have perfect control over my mouse using the fingertip grip.. its impossible to palm this mouse. All you have to do is alternate between using your wrist for large swipes and your fingers for controlling small movements. I also relift the mouse alot and am used to it from playing CSS at a low sens for years.
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I'm using Logitech G500, and I'm really happy with it. Been using it about for a year now. The only thing bad about it is the colouration fading over where I hold the mouse with my fingers/hands. It feels really good in your palm.
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On August 09 2011 18:40 mardi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:25 Z3kk wrote:
What would you guys recommend as a really good right-handed mouse? I have sort of a palm/fingertip grip.
I don't know whether it's just me, but on ambidextrous mice, I find that my hand is tilted very slightly so that my fingers are pointed towards the upper-right of the mouse, if that makes sense. This wasn't noticeable until I randomly tried a larger ambidextrous mouse and found that I wasn't holding it "correctly" (just in terms of how it appeared).
Also, are we allowed to use this thread for questions like this? Sorry if we're not :x just appeared that the OP was long-gone and the thread was still living on hehe. There is also the Logitech g9x which is a decent mouse but has mouse acceleration but when I used it, it didn't affect my gameplay in sc2 but did in FPS games. It is also quite heavy and has a hard to press scroll wheel. Also has interchangeable grips to suit your style. Can switch between palm, fingertip, or claw depending on what type of grip you put on it. Logitech mx518/g400 (g400 new version with new grip and higher dpi). This mouse has prediction but it is also a very very good mouse. One of my favorite shapes of all my gaming mice. Very good build quality and known to last for a long time. Mainly a palm grip.
AFAIK the acceleration in the sensor in g9x and G500 was fixed with a firmware update. Or have I misunderstood? (In which case I will throw away my G500)
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On August 09 2011 22:35 Stiluz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 18:40 mardi wrote:On August 08 2011 10:25 Z3kk wrote:
What would you guys recommend as a really good right-handed mouse? I have sort of a palm/fingertip grip.
I don't know whether it's just me, but on ambidextrous mice, I find that my hand is tilted very slightly so that my fingers are pointed towards the upper-right of the mouse, if that makes sense. This wasn't noticeable until I randomly tried a larger ambidextrous mouse and found that I wasn't holding it "correctly" (just in terms of how it appeared).
Also, are we allowed to use this thread for questions like this? Sorry if we're not :x just appeared that the OP was long-gone and the thread was still living on hehe. There is also the Logitech g9x which is a decent mouse but has mouse acceleration but when I used it, it didn't affect my gameplay in sc2 but did in FPS games. It is also quite heavy and has a hard to press scroll wheel. Also has interchangeable grips to suit your style. Can switch between palm, fingertip, or claw depending on what type of grip you put on it. Logitech mx518/g400 (g400 new version with new grip and higher dpi). This mouse has prediction but it is also a very very good mouse. One of my favorite shapes of all my gaming mice. Very good build quality and known to last for a long time. Mainly a palm grip. AFAIK the acceleration in the sensor in g9x and G500 was fixed with a firmware update. Or have I misunderstood? (In which case I will throw away my G500)
You misunderstood. The acceleration is built-in to the sensor and can't be fixed. But don't throw away your mouse, it's still a good mouse.
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On August 10 2011 00:13 mardi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 22:35 Stiluz wrote:On August 09 2011 18:40 mardi wrote:On August 08 2011 10:25 Z3kk wrote:
What would you guys recommend as a really good right-handed mouse? I have sort of a palm/fingertip grip.
I don't know whether it's just me, but on ambidextrous mice, I find that my hand is tilted very slightly so that my fingers are pointed towards the upper-right of the mouse, if that makes sense. This wasn't noticeable until I randomly tried a larger ambidextrous mouse and found that I wasn't holding it "correctly" (just in terms of how it appeared).
Also, are we allowed to use this thread for questions like this? Sorry if we're not :x just appeared that the OP was long-gone and the thread was still living on hehe. There is also the Logitech g9x which is a decent mouse but has mouse acceleration but when I used it, it didn't affect my gameplay in sc2 but did in FPS games. It is also quite heavy and has a hard to press scroll wheel. Also has interchangeable grips to suit your style. Can switch between palm, fingertip, or claw depending on what type of grip you put on it. Logitech mx518/g400 (g400 new version with new grip and higher dpi). This mouse has prediction but it is also a very very good mouse. One of my favorite shapes of all my gaming mice. Very good build quality and known to last for a long time. Mainly a palm grip. AFAIK the acceleration in the sensor in g9x and G500 was fixed with a firmware update. Or have I misunderstood? (In which case I will throw away my G500) You misunderstood. The acceleration is built-in to the sensor and can't be fixed. But don't throw away your mouse, it's still a good mouse.
I see, thanks. It might be a *good* mouse, but if it has acceleration it's not really awesome though 
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I just ordered an Abyssus, should arrive tomorrow. I've owned an Orochi, Naga, and DeathAdder. Hoping this simple mouse will do the trick for SC2.
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As a follow up to my last question, is there a Logitech mouse or something like that which is completely free of any acceleration or crap like that? I mainly play SC2, but will be playing a lot of BF3, so I don't want any form of acceleration crap for the FPS part. As I understood from mardi's post, even the MX518/G400 has acceleration/prediction. =/
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No the g400/mx518 do not have acceleration but have prediction.
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CM Spawn for sure. The ergonomics for fingertip grip are really nice. The ring finger rest makes the mouse very comfortable and maneuverable. The switch they use for the actuation of the two main buttons has excellent tactile feedback. Much better than the MX 518, IMO.
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Its all personal preference. Just find the one you like to use the most and use it.
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Got my abyssus in today and it's a pretty solid mouse. It's really light weight and it does skimp out on some other features of the Razer mice I'm used to. I wish it had a braided cord. The plastic one is lightweight but it was sort of molded down coming out of the box and it drags on the table slightly. Not much of a drag but since the mouse is so light I can feel it. The shape is terrific, compared to my orochi which had the weird feet on the sides. I just really wish it had the detachable cable like the orochi. The scroll wheel feels great, I think Razer makes the best scroll wheels IMO. I think it can be an extremely good RTS/SC2 mouse since it's so basic but light weight for those mouse movements that are needed.
Works well in OSX just needs to be at 125hz and not 1000hz where it has issues of "lag".
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Based on some posts here, and a lot of reviews and research, I decided to buy the CM Spawn mouse, it seemed like the best choice. Now I'll be ready for BF3 too! :D
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For sc2 anything will work, people buy nice mice but it's really unnecessary. I've bought a few gaming mice due to the hype (mx518, deathadder etc..) but when I really compared them to my intellimouse or oem logitech mouse I didn't play any better.. It's fine to buy a nice mouse due to the amount of time we use the computer but I wouldn't worry about it, it doesn't matter especially for sc2.
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For some people, gaming mice really make a good difference. You'll have better control and it will be easier to get used to a mouse that does what you expect it to do. My resolution was too high to consistently use my IME 3.0 so I would skip pixels. It's a matter of preference and some placebo effect. You think you play better because you have good equipment and some people think you play bad cus your equipment sucks. All about preference.
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Hello. A while back i replaced my Logitech mouse optical 1.1a with a g500, but....i really really miss the lightweightness of the 1.1a vs the really heavy (to me) g500. Is there a mouse on the market that has 1800-2000 dpi, while also being really light. Palm grip i guess.
edit: it does not have to be fancy either, but a great, reliable sensor is a must.
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There are plenty of them already tbh.. did you really search a little? Even 10 minutes? There are steelseries kinzu, kai, cyborg cat, or if you want a little fancy (but still following the bandwagon) then go for abyssus. There are also logitech but not sure what are lighter than the g500.
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please let the man know kinzu has built in accel on the actual hardware. steelseries tried to pass this off as a feature of the mouse... any semi intelligent person can see through it though http://faq.steelseries.com/questions/194/Does the Kinzu have mouse acceleration?
IE. Get the 3.0, alternatively get something that feels good and has a dpi that to your liking(since the 3.0 only has 400[500 oc'd?]) i would suggest a deathadder or storm spawn is also really good
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Don't get fooled by DPI numbers.
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if ou are a claw grip yes dpi numbers matter to you. if your a palmer and make your mouse fly acrossed te mat.. no dpi dont matter.
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