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CynicalTubby
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
September 30 2010 16:42 GMT
#521
Razer Deathadder. Great mouse. Well worth the price and it fits my hand perfectly. I can't imagine myself using any other mouse.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 30 2010 16:47 GMT
#522
On September 29 2010 04:34 stafu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 01:43 Jibba wrote:
On September 28 2010 23:18 Solis_Fonte wrote:
On September 28 2010 14:45 Jibba wrote:
MX518 is nothing like his mouse.

MS Blue/1.1a is an ambidextrous mouse with a high palm.

OP, search next time. There's plenty of mice threads already.

Kinzu/Habu and Xai all have near identical shapes, but they also all have terrible sensors.

Among ambidextrous mice with good sensors, there's really only the Razer Abyssus and Logitech G1, and neither have the high palm. Still, they're both pretty excellent mice so you might want to try them at a local Best Buy/Fry's.

EDIT: Terrible is too strongly worded. Their sensors just aren't as good as the optical sensors found in Last edit: 2010-09-28 14:46:29
the above mice.


In Steelseries Xai Is it bad sensor?

It's not as good as the optical sensor Razer uses in the Deathadder and Abyssus.

Kinzu's is bad, Ikari optical's is bad, Ikari laser has negative acceleration and Xai has a bit less of it. Especially for RTS games, you may not even notice the Xai's hardware acceleration.

I've heard Abyssus and new DA sensor is pretty horrible :/ Jitters on QcK and no firmware upgrading (for the Abyssus at least).

Stuck using a G1 until someone makes a decent mouse with > 450 dpi (though I'm going to see how the Asian Salmosa goes, but even before it arrives I know it won't be perfect due to angle snapping, and I've heard bad liftoff?) >_>

Yeah, it's not good with a QcK. If you switch to a newer cloth pad like a Goliathus Control, it's got basically perfect tracking though. It's also flawless on my 5L. Haven't tried mTw/dkt pad.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 30 2010 16:50 GMT
#523
On October 01 2010 01:32 Solis_Fonte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 00:57 stafu wrote:It does, but all other factors considered it's my best option for now. I also have a Ktec 9500+ but that seems to skip pixels :/

Clearly much. What do you think mx518 good mouse for sc2? I know that Brat_OK plays on that

It really just depends on the shape and if you like it for RTS style movements. The MX518 is an excellent mouse though. I preferred it for FPSes though (before it broke.)
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hihu
Profile Joined March 2010
France64 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 17:00:50
September 30 2010 16:53 GMT
#524
On June 16 2010 19:16 dbddbddb wrote:
you dont need a fancy 200 dollar mouse, just get a good one like the logitech g1 it's very cheap now and works great for rts.

I'm also using the old G1 logitech for all games I play, although it's getting very hard to find in France.
For me the most important aspect for a mouse is how comfortable I feel while holding it, and the very simple design of the G1 has been the best for me.
I believe any recent laser mouse will have enough "precision" especially for an RTS so it is really a matter of personal preference.

Over the years I have used several Razor mice (the diamondback most notably) and several microsoft and logitech mice, and even for FPS games (I play with low res 1024*768 at most) I've always prioritized the shape and "feel" when buying a new mouse.

I also think that the mousepad is almost as important as the mouse, I'm using a QPAD CT which feels very good for me.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
September 30 2010 16:54 GMT
#525
intelimouse ftw !
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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
September 30 2010 16:55 GMT
#526
I have my MX518 from my bw/cs days and it's still awesome. I have tried some newer smaller mices but always went back.
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 17:27:29
September 30 2010 17:26 GMT
#527
ive had 3 or 4 consecutive microsoft intellimice (left mouse button wears out after around 1,5 years for me)

now i switched to razer and im really satisified with my new razer imperator. initially i bought a razer lachesis but didnt like that at all, had to bring it back to the shop. lachesis has a total different feel compared to the intellimouse since its so flat and not ergonomic at all imho. the imperator however is really really sweet and also looks way cooler than the intellimouse... costs almost double what the microsoft model does, but im hoping it will also last longer than the usual 1,5 years my intellimice last me...

i dunno about accuracy, but i turned up my mouse speed quite a bit now that im using razer. the main improvement was getting an actual mousepad tho, i used some plastic surface before and it was hard moving the mouse tiny amounts since it would stick to the surface a little, now its all very smooth and my apm increased from 60ish to 80ish
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
October 01 2010 00:56 GMT
#528
On October 01 2010 01:47 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:34 stafu wrote:
On September 29 2010 01:43 Jibba wrote:
On September 28 2010 23:18 Solis_Fonte wrote:
On September 28 2010 14:45 Jibba wrote:
MX518 is nothing like his mouse.

MS Blue/1.1a is an ambidextrous mouse with a high palm.

OP, search next time. There's plenty of mice threads already.

Kinzu/Habu and Xai all have near identical shapes, but they also all have terrible sensors.

Among ambidextrous mice with good sensors, there's really only the Razer Abyssus and Logitech G1, and neither have the high palm. Still, they're both pretty excellent mice so you might want to try them at a local Best Buy/Fry's.

EDIT: Terrible is too strongly worded. Their sensors just aren't as good as the optical sensors found in Last edit: 2010-09-28 14:46:29
the above mice.


In Steelseries Xai Is it bad sensor?

It's not as good as the optical sensor Razer uses in the Deathadder and Abyssus.

Kinzu's is bad, Ikari optical's is bad, Ikari laser has negative acceleration and Xai has a bit less of it. Especially for RTS games, you may not even notice the Xai's hardware acceleration.

I've heard Abyssus and new DA sensor is pretty horrible :/ Jitters on QcK and no firmware upgrading (for the Abyssus at least).

Stuck using a G1 until someone makes a decent mouse with > 450 dpi (though I'm going to see how the Asian Salmosa goes, but even before it arrives I know it won't be perfect due to angle snapping, and I've heard bad liftoff?) >_>

Yeah, it's not good with a QcK. If you switch to a newer cloth pad like a Goliathus Control, it's got basically perfect tracking though. It's also flawless on my 5L. Haven't tried mTw/dkt pad.

Nice, I'll keep that in mind. 5L actually looks really good!
Naramis
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil19 Posts
October 01 2010 01:26 GMT
#529
I had a Razer Deathadder.. it was good, but only lasted for a bit over a year.. fits about right with the description I hear of other Razer products (low quality overpriced crap with lights attached)

I'm currently using a Logitech G9. The quality is superb, but the ergonomics aren't that good..
fenster
Profile Joined July 2010
United States73 Posts
October 01 2010 01:58 GMT
#530
On October 01 2010 01:42 CynicalTubby wrote:
Razer Deathadder. Great mouse. Well worth the price and it fits my hand perfectly. I can't imagine myself using any other mouse.


I hope you're right, because I just bought one off of Woot and it should be here tomorrow. :D
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
October 01 2010 01:59 GMT
#531
I have a Daethadder, love it. Thinking about the abyssus though...
itsdoubleD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States23 Posts
October 01 2010 03:54 GMT
#532
In my personal opinion, the skill of the player doesn't really lie in the mouse. Alot of FPS require you to have a fancy, high precision mouse (measured in Dots per inch) to be somewhat competent. However in Starcraft you can definitely be good w/o a fancy gaming mouse. ANYTHING works. You'll find if you stick with your mouse, it will never actually slow you down, but switching mice will. What I recommend is a macroboard. I use the logitech G13 gameboard which alot of those WoW players use. Its great for grid system key layouts, and you can add group control and shift, ctr, alt and all that good stuff. Yeah like everybody said RTS do not need fancy mice, but a fancy keyboard never hurt
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Stark838
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines15 Posts
October 01 2010 04:12 GMT
#533
On October 01 2010 12:54 itsdoubleD wrote:
In my personal opinion, the skill of the player doesn't really lie in the mouse. Alot of FPS require you to have a fancy, high precision mouse (measured in Dots per inch) to be somewhat competent. However in Starcraft you can definitely be good w/o a fancy gaming mouse. ANYTHING works. You'll find if you stick with your mouse, it will never actually slow you down, but switching mice will. What I recommend is a macroboard. I use the logitech G13 gameboard which alot of those WoW players use. Its great for grid system key layouts, and you can add group control and shift, ctr, alt and all that good stuff. Yeah like everybody said RTS do not need fancy mice, but a fancy keyboard never hurt


everyone here already knows this. the whole point of the thread is to talk about which mice right now have the best sensors that dont skip/jitter/etc and which ones are most comfortable. the latter is subjective of course.
RaFeStaR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
October 01 2010 04:21 GMT
#534
I personally use the 518 (I've used it forever and it's great for cs). Overall it's just a great gaming mouse and I'd use it for any game I play.
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
October 01 2010 04:29 GMT
#535
I just bought a DeathAdder about a month ago, and it's been quite a difference for me. I'm used to playing with an old Dell ball mouse that I found in my buddy's closet.... From the limited experience I have with Razer and SteelSeries mice (one of my friends uses a Mamba and another the Xai), I much prefer the Razer sensor. It seems much more stable to me, and I like the liftoff distance of the Razer more.

The DA isn't a great ergonomic fit for me, since I use mainly a fingertip grip and I have small hands - if I were to purchase a Razer again, I'd probably get an Abyssus to fit my hand size.

If you're looking for a new mouse, just make sure you find one that fits your grip, hand size, and wallet. Brand really doesn't matter too much, as long as you like it. For example, I believe Savior and Bisu used to use the Logitech Mini Optical...
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Kreep
Profile Joined July 2010
United States17 Posts
October 01 2010 05:08 GMT
#536
I have the Razer Abyssus, it's definatly the best mouse I have ever used.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 01 2010 05:37 GMT
#537
On October 01 2010 09:56 stafu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 01:47 Jibba wrote:
On September 29 2010 04:34 stafu wrote:
On September 29 2010 01:43 Jibba wrote:
On September 28 2010 23:18 Solis_Fonte wrote:
On September 28 2010 14:45 Jibba wrote:
MX518 is nothing like his mouse.

MS Blue/1.1a is an ambidextrous mouse with a high palm.

OP, search next time. There's plenty of mice threads already.

Kinzu/Habu and Xai all have near identical shapes, but they also all have terrible sensors.

Among ambidextrous mice with good sensors, there's really only the Razer Abyssus and Logitech G1, and neither have the high palm. Still, they're both pretty excellent mice so you might want to try them at a local Best Buy/Fry's.

EDIT: Terrible is too strongly worded. Their sensors just aren't as good as the optical sensors found in Last edit: 2010-09-28 14:46:29
the above mice.


In Steelseries Xai Is it bad sensor?

It's not as good as the optical sensor Razer uses in the Deathadder and Abyssus.

Kinzu's is bad, Ikari optical's is bad, Ikari laser has negative acceleration and Xai has a bit less of it. Especially for RTS games, you may not even notice the Xai's hardware acceleration.

I've heard Abyssus and new DA sensor is pretty horrible :/ Jitters on QcK and no firmware upgrading (for the Abyssus at least).

Stuck using a G1 until someone makes a decent mouse with > 450 dpi (though I'm going to see how the Asian Salmosa goes, but even before it arrives I know it won't be perfect due to angle snapping, and I've heard bad liftoff?) >_>

Yeah, it's not good with a QcK. If you switch to a newer cloth pad like a Goliathus Control, it's got basically perfect tracking though. It's also flawless on my 5L. Haven't tried mTw/dkt pad.

Nice, I'll keep that in mind. 5L actually looks really good!

It's just too big for my tastes, plus I wanted cloth for a bit more portability. That's actually why I got the QcK in the first place, and it was great with an IME3.0, MX518 and Deathadder. Just not the Abyssus. :|
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SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
October 01 2010 16:48 GMT
#538
On October 01 2010 14:08 Kreep wrote:
I have the Razer Abyssus, it's definatly the best mouse I have ever used.

For me too. It's small and has a great accuray. No fancy extra buttons and other stuff I don't need.
Also the price is very good.
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Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
October 01 2010 16:56 GMT
#539
I'm using Logitech G-500, I definitely recommend it, it fits to your hand so nicely and has up to 5700 DPI, it is a really great mouse.
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PROJECTILE
Profile Joined April 2010
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-01 17:02:46
October 01 2010 17:02 GMT
#540
high dpi (or more accurately, cpi) is SO overrated. The best thing you can do is get a teflon mouse pad if you really want to be lame about your computer peripherals
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