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eKe
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada60 Posts
September 28 2010 19:28 GMT
#501
I'm using the steelseries Xai right now and I'm really happy with it !
If you win, go train and if you lose... then go train harder!
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
September 28 2010 19:28 GMT
#502
i use a logitech and love it.

i heard razer mice a good? thats what day9 use, and afaik some pros
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
September 28 2010 19:34 GMT
#503
On September 29 2010 01:43 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2010 23:18 Solis_Fonte wrote:
On September 28 2010 14:45 Jibba wrote:
MX518 is nothing like his mouse.

MS Blue/1.1a is an ambidextrous mouse with a high palm.

OP, search next time. There's plenty of mice threads already.

Kinzu/Habu and Xai all have near identical shapes, but they also all have terrible sensors.

Among ambidextrous mice with good sensors, there's really only the Razer Abyssus and Logitech G1, and neither have the high palm. Still, they're both pretty excellent mice so you might want to try them at a local Best Buy/Fry's.

EDIT: Terrible is too strongly worded. Their sensors just aren't as good as the optical sensors found in Last edit: 2010-09-28 14:46:29
the above mice.


In Steelseries Xai Is it bad sensor?

It's not as good as the optical sensor Razer uses in the Deathadder and Abyssus.

Kinzu's is bad, Ikari optical's is bad, Ikari laser has negative acceleration and Xai has a bit less of it. Especially for RTS games, you may not even notice the Xai's hardware acceleration.

I've heard Abyssus and new DA sensor is pretty horrible :/ Jitters on QcK and no firmware upgrading (for the Abyssus at least).

Stuck using a G1 until someone makes a decent mouse with > 450 dpi (though I'm going to see how the Asian Salmosa goes, but even before it arrives I know it won't be perfect due to angle snapping, and I've heard bad liftoff?) >_>
gospelwut
Profile Joined April 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 19:39:46
September 28 2010 19:38 GMT
#504
It's probably been mentioned (it certainly has been discussed), but disabling mouse acceleration via patching/disabling and turning on "reduce mouse lag" in-game will show more direct results than any variance of DPI/build in the new mouse you get. Obviously, set your sensitivities accordingly. As an ex-FPS player (CS1.6), I can assure you I noticed a huge difference.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/628258098#1
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
September 28 2010 19:53 GMT
#505
I do all kinds of gaming, and the razer naga has been the best of the bunch for me. I love it in starcraft, because it puts all the control groups at my thumb, and with a little practice, is faster than a keyboard.

was expensive, but I also do FPS games a LOT, where a good mouse matters as well. So for me, a good mouse and pad is worth the moneys
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
Achilles
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada385 Posts
September 28 2010 19:55 GMT
#506
Deathadder is the best mouse FPS/RTS whatever. It has ridiculously good tracking and fits oh so well.
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Solis_Fonte
Profile Joined February 2010
63 Posts
September 29 2010 05:40 GMT
#507
On September 29 2010 04:34 stafu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 01:43 Jibba wrote:
On September 28 2010 23:18 Solis_Fonte wrote:
On September 28 2010 14:45 Jibba wrote:
MX518 is nothing like his mouse.

MS Blue/1.1a is an ambidextrous mouse with a high palm.

OP, search next time. There's plenty of mice threads already.

Kinzu/Habu and Xai all have near identical shapes, but they also all have terrible sensors.

Among ambidextrous mice with good sensors, there's really only the Razer Abyssus and Logitech G1, and neither have the high palm. Still, they're both pretty excellent mice so you might want to try them at a local Best Buy/Fry's.

EDIT: Terrible is too strongly worded. Their sensors just aren't as good as the optical sensors found in Last edit: 2010-09-28 14:46:29
the above mice.


In Steelseries Xai Is it bad sensor?

It's not as good as the optical sensor Razer uses in the Deathadder and Abyssus.

Kinzu's is bad, Ikari optical's is bad, Ikari laser has negative acceleration and Xai has a bit less of it. Especially for RTS games, you may not even notice the Xai's hardware acceleration.

I've heard Abyssus and new DA sensor is pretty horrible :/ Jitters on QcK and no firmware upgrading (for the Abyssus at least).

Stuck using a G1 until someone makes a decent mouse with > 450 dpi (though I'm going to see how the Asian Salmosa goes, but even before it arrives I know it won't be perfect due to angle snapping, and I've heard bad liftoff?) >_>

G1 Has a prediction?
Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 05:53:25
September 29 2010 05:52 GMT
#508
I use a logitech mini optical with the weight removed. Removing the weight makes it ULTRA light so I can play for hours and have no aches in my hand. I wonder what other mods I could do for it.

But I use a really cheap crappy mousepad. Anybody have some suggestions that would work well for me?
I'm a Crab made of men.
Thatcheress
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia25 Posts
September 29 2010 05:59 GMT
#509
I have a Logitech mini-optical mouse. About $20 AUD, iirc. It moves when I tell it too. It has two click buttons and a scroll wheel, all of which work. And it's relatively comfortable. Good enough for me.

Although, playing Starcraft with an Apple-manufactured mouse is funny.
Ho hum.
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
September 29 2010 06:07 GMT
#510
I use Razer Deathadder 3G Infared with Razer Mousepad - smooth as butter, and never skips. Using latest firmware. Not sure why others have had issues with it skipping. I've used Razer for 5 years and been thoroughly pleased with each purchase.
i-bonjwa
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
September 29 2010 07:32 GMT
#511
It's amazing how many of them haven't tried the others mice. They just go like "I'm using X and I'm pretty happy with it so far". That means every mouse would do good. Just get the one that fit perfectly with ur hands and don't bother with everything else.

It comes to : fit > cheap > look.

Like i said on the others mice thread, i hate razer. Haven't tried abysus or salmosa yet, but judging from its appearance it seems like the deathadder which isn't bad but isn't better as any mx5XX mice for instance.

I really loved the intellimouse. Haven't tried kinzu nor kai but if it's almost the same shape then i'd go for it without any regrets.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
September 29 2010 07:35 GMT
#512
But I use a really cheap crappy mousepad. Anybody have some suggestions that would work well for me?


At least you use a mousepad. I'm all desk.

Personally, I've never used a more comfortable mouse than MX518. I have relatively big hands and most mice are just way too tiny.
whatsgrackalackin420
mrgoochio
Profile Joined April 2009
United States557 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 07:41:47
September 29 2010 07:40 GMT
#513
haven't read through all the pages.. but logitech mx518 is as solid of a mouse as youll need for pretty much any gaming.

mousepad is also an issue. if you only play online and at home, use what you feel comfortable with.. be it bare desk or mousepad. if you compete, youll want to get a mousepad setup youre comfortable with because youll want to play on the same surface with the same mouse / mouse settings if you play on LAN
chengysogood
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
September 29 2010 07:46 GMT
#514
On September 29 2010 16:32 RaiZ wrote:
It's amazing how many of them haven't tried the others mice. They just go like "I'm using X and I'm pretty happy with it so far". That means every mouse would do good. Just get the one that fit perfectly with ur hands and don't bother with everything else.

It comes to : fit > cheap > look.

Like i said on the others mice thread, i hate razer. Haven't tried abysus or salmosa yet, but judging from its appearance it seems like the deathadder which isn't bad but isn't better as any mx5XX mice for instance.

I really loved the intellimouse. Haven't tried kinzu nor kai but if it's almost the same shape then i'd go for it without any regrets.


I agree actually. I've tried Microsoft, Logitech, Steelseries, and some other less noteworthy brands, and finally most recently Razer. Personally Razer I've had the best experience with in terms of comfort for extended periods, responsiveness for technology level, reliability, and durability (I press my buttons hard). That isn't to say Razer is 'the best' just pick a price-range in your mind, then go to the store, try each mouse in your hand and see which feels most comfortable, then once you've narrowed it down to three or five that fit your hand nicely read the specs and and narrow further, then finally pick the one you like the look of the most.

I like the Deathadder as per my previous post mostly because its one of the most comfortable right-hand only mice I've used. I find the thumb space in Microsoft mice too big, and the palm bulge on Logitech mice too high, the Deathadder seems to have it just right at least for my hand.
i-bonjwa
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
September 30 2010 15:57 GMT
#515
On September 29 2010 14:40 Solis_Fonte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 04:34 stafu wrote:
On September 29 2010 01:43 Jibba wrote:
On September 28 2010 23:18 Solis_Fonte wrote:
On September 28 2010 14:45 Jibba wrote:
MX518 is nothing like his mouse.

MS Blue/1.1a is an ambidextrous mouse with a high palm.

OP, search next time. There's plenty of mice threads already.

Kinzu/Habu and Xai all have near identical shapes, but they also all have terrible sensors.

Among ambidextrous mice with good sensors, there's really only the Razer Abyssus and Logitech G1, and neither have the high palm. Still, they're both pretty excellent mice so you might want to try them at a local Best Buy/Fry's.

EDIT: Terrible is too strongly worded. Their sensors just aren't as good as the optical sensors found in Last edit: 2010-09-28 14:46:29
the above mice.


In Steelseries Xai Is it bad sensor?

It's not as good as the optical sensor Razer uses in the Deathadder and Abyssus.

Kinzu's is bad, Ikari optical's is bad, Ikari laser has negative acceleration and Xai has a bit less of it. Especially for RTS games, you may not even notice the Xai's hardware acceleration.

I've heard Abyssus and new DA sensor is pretty horrible :/ Jitters on QcK and no firmware upgrading (for the Abyssus at least).

Stuck using a G1 until someone makes a decent mouse with > 450 dpi (though I'm going to see how the Asian Salmosa goes, but even before it arrives I know it won't be perfect due to angle snapping, and I've heard bad liftoff?) >_>

G1 Has a prediction?

It does, but all other factors considered it's my best option for now. I also have a Ktec 9500+ but that seems to skip pixels :/
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
September 30 2010 15:58 GMT
#516
I love my Logitech MX 518 and wouldn't trade it for any so-called "gaming mouse".
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
September 30 2010 16:05 GMT
#517
The MX 518 is a so called gaming mouse. The official title of it is: Logitech MX 518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse.

It's also no more expensive than some razer mice such as the Abyssus which is great for RTS. The diamondback and deathadders are also similarly priced to the mx518.

I haven't had any problems with skipping or anything on my Abyssus so *shrug*.
Logo
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
September 30 2010 16:09 GMT
#518
mx518 or g9x. cant go wrong with either of those
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 30 2010 16:31 GMT
#519
On September 29 2010 04:28 L3g3nd_ wrote:
i use a logitech and love it.

i heard razer mice a good? thats what day9 use, and afaik some pros


I use a Salmosa and a Kinzu, with a steelseries mousepad. Love the setup, cant decide which mouse I like more so I alternate.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Solis_Fonte
Profile Joined February 2010
63 Posts
September 30 2010 16:32 GMT
#520
On October 01 2010 00:57 stafu wrote:It does, but all other factors considered it's my best option for now. I also have a Ktec 9500+ but that seems to skip pixels :/

Clearly much. What do you think mx518 good mouse for sc2? I know that Brat_OK plays on that
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