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On June 16 2010 19:55 ChApFoU wrote:Any cheap logitech mouse will do the trick. I use this : ![[image loading]](http://static.letsbuyit.com/filer/images/fr/products/original/88/52/logitech-optical-mouse-rx250-souris-optique-8852915.jpeg) Logitech RX250, works like a charm, no useless shit, 1000 dpi and costs 10$, before that I used the loved Mini Optical. Logitech is the way to go, you absolutely DO NOT need a Razer for RTS. Trust me and you will save money.
This mouse is good and i love the fact that it has a front and a back button through the directional scroll button. But the downside is that the buttons require a bit more preassure to to click than the avarage mouse. The shape is excellent and its uber cheap. Bought it for like 7 euro.
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Mini Optical is like $8 and perfectly good.
Razer Salmosa's are also excellent, and will probably be the best and cheapest in a few years since mini opticals are now discontinued.
Logitech make many good, cheap mice that are actually just intended for general use but are also good for rts play.
Never spend more than $30-40 on a mouse. It's a waste of money.
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I've had a bunch of mice in the last 10 yrs and the only company that hasn't disappointed me once is Microsoft. Their mice are really simple and very good. Their designs are great and fit your hand very well.
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I'm using this:
![[image loading]](http://217.172.172.50/shop_cfg/ywog/rimperator.JPG)
(Edit: Razer Imperator)
Since I have really big hands - but also palm grip - this is the first mouse ever, that really fits my hand.
I'd suggest you to go to the nearest bigger computer store and just try.
Also I can recommend (qualitywise) MS Intellimouse, Logitech MX518 and Logitech G7.
(although it's a wireless mouse, it performs really great imo/you can quick switch the accumulator)
It's up to you which mouse fits you the best. 
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i have razer lachesis but it's not the best mouse for a RTS altough i do use the side buttons and the top buttons for macro actions
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ive been using the Logitec M-BZ96C for as long as i remember (still do), that being said i just won the razor imperator (i hope i spelled it right) in a recent tournament, does ne1 know if its ne good ?
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The imperator is mostly aimed at FPS games, but depending on your chosen grip it might be more comfortable for you.
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On July 19 2010 23:20 HuK wrote:
ive been using the Logitec M-BZ96C for as long as i remember (still do), that being said i just won the razor imperator (i hope i spelled it right) in a recent tournament, does ne1 know if its ne good ?
Look above, that is an Imperator. ^^*
Grats btw.
If you have big hands like me, it's just great, since the side buttons are adjustable and the shape is imo perfect for palm grippers.
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I use it with a Razer Destructor mousepad, since it didn't work well with my old glass pad. :/
It glides really nice though and now I'm quite happy that I bought the Destructor.
It's imo very easy to get used to this mouse, so you should just give it a try.
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Razer Diamondback 3G is mine and some of my friends absolute favourite. Its a Finger mouse, small and quick. If you like a mouse to fill your whole hand like the G5 or Deathadder, then this mouse isn't for you.
When I hold my mouse, only my fingers touch it. If this is your style, try the Diamondback for sure!
EDIT: Here, a photo
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So im thinking about buying the imperator or the G9x. I have heard that the imperator has problems when you pick it up (supposedly when you pick up the mouse the arrow moves a little to the lower right) can anyone who has the imperator comment on this, and tell if it's true, and yes if its much of a burden?
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seiously, the Razer Naga ![[image loading]](http://www.gamegear.be/images/razer_naga_0.jpg) for its amazingly ergonomic shape, it's nice light and compact size makes it great.
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12 macro buttons is always a plus too, which is prime advertised feature. But what makes it so great for starcraft is the shape and size, more so than the buttons.
the 12 buttons makes it great for WoW as well.
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What's funny is that I've completely thrown around my mouse settings/style for SC2, compared to my usual FPS style.
In FPS (mostly Q3/Quake Live, Warsow, Jailbreak Source and CS:S) I am one of those low-sens junkies. 35*25cm cloth mousepad, Deathadder, palmgrip, 'shoulder/arm aiming', about 30cm/360.
For SC2, I find this a pretty uncomfortable setup, interestingly. The palmgrip keeps me from making zigzag motions with my mouse easily, and whole-arm-aiming is a bit too slow for RTS micro. My wrist/fingers are probably way more suited to this.
Thing is, the Deathadder is pretty uncomfortable for me when used with claw grip (fingers/wrist only) - the sides are a bit too slippery to have a good grip on.
Also, the cloth mousepad is orgasmic in Quake/twitch shooters where you'll want quick snap aiming(RL/Railgun) and/or smooth constant tracking (lightning gun), but too slow and too much friction in RTS.
So currently, I have a dual-mouse setup :D
I've got my FPS/regular use setup in its normal position, and a Logitech G5+Razer eXactmat right beside that for when I start up SC2. The G5 is less than ideal (it's still the older model with horrible top speeds), but the grip is pretty much perfect. eXactmat is slick as hell, too.
Now...all I need is to somehow incorporate my DDR pads into my control scheme for MAXIMUM NERD.
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Do you know if the Ktec mouses are still shipped together with those lovely mousepads like the 6500s were?
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On July 23 2010 18:24 waffling1 wrote:seiously, the Razer Naga for its amazingly ergonomic shape, it's nice light and compact size makes it great. more views + Show Spoiler +12 macro buttons is always a plus too, which is prime advertised feature. But what makes it so great for starcraft is the shape and size, more so than the buttons. the 12 buttons makes it great for WoW as well.
Agree with this guy.
I've been using it for awhile. The DPI is rediculous (it goes far above the others listed here, and even above other Razer mice) so its super accurate, and the shape is the best part. It has a grip that works better than the other Razer mice - the other ones tend to shake the pointer a bit if you use the side buttons due to the sensitivity - but with the positioning of the grip that doesnt happen with this one.
Plus you have more buttons than you will ever need for any game. Just think, any hotkey on your keyboard that's on the right half that you would typically have to use your right hand for.... you can just bind it to your mouse.
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On July 23 2010 18:17 Deckkie wrote:
So im thinking about buying the imperator or the G9x. I have heard that the imperator has problems when you pick it up (supposedly when you pick up the mouse the arrow moves a little to the lower right) can anyone who has the imperator comment on this, and tell if it's true, and yes if its much of a burden?
I'm thinking about buying the imperator too. I have a fingertip grip when playing fps, rts and even at work, I'm not moving my forearm at all, only the hand and fingers and therefore i have to pick up my mouse all the time.
Can you guys recommend the imperator for my fingertip style or are there other mice which fit my style probably better?
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Hey i got a small collection here...
Intelli 1.1
Intelli 3.0
Razer Copperhead
Razer Diamondback
Guess whats my ranking?
1.1>diamondback>3.0>copperhead
Thing is.. the 1.1 is kinda too slow for really competitive stuff. Does anyone know how to maximize its speed further than the driver allows to?
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On July 23 2010 20:59 Suptzs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 18:17 Deckkie wrote:
So im thinking about buying the imperator or the G9x. I have heard that the imperator has problems when you pick it up (supposedly when you pick up the mouse the arrow moves a little to the lower right) can anyone who has the imperator comment on this, and tell if it's true, and yes if its much of a burden? I'm thinking about buying the imperator too. I have a fingertip grip when playing fps, rts and even at work, I'm not moving my forearm at all, only the hand and fingers and therefore i have to pick up my mouse all the time. Can you guys recommend the imperator for my fingertip style or are there other mice which fit my style probably better?
Yes I have a fingertip style two, but the imperator is supposedly made for both palm and fingertip style. And I think the Razer spectre is now on the market as well. really like the mouse but just hate that it actually shows starcraft 2 on it :S:S what to do what to do.. anyone going to buy the razer spectre?
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On July 19 2010 23:20 HuK wrote:
ive been using the Logitec M-BZ96C for as long as i remember (still do), that being said i just won the razor imperator (i hope i spelled it right) in a recent tournament, does ne1 know if its ne good ?
is "any" seriously so long that you have to shorten that with "ne" ? T_T
I have an abyssus and I love the feel of it and how smoothly it moves, however for me personally its a bit short so I'm thinking about switching to the imperator. I've read a few reviews saying that this is the best razer mouse yet.
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