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DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
October 02 2010 12:27 GMT
#121
Using window mode is a confirmed fix but I don't know anything besides that , sorry guys
BW for life !
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
October 02 2010 12:59 GMT
#122
On October 02 2010 20:33 Metaspace wrote:
This fix (DDHack) seems to work, but I cannot get into Battle.net with it!
When trying to enter battle.net, first, I got a message from battle.net that the application version cannot be determined (kicking me).

Now (??) the game switches back to the desktop (in low resolution) and nothing more happens the moment I try to connect with battle.net, and I have to kill it using task manager.

Any ideas?


That's strange.. I can connect fine to iCCup.. I hadn't tried actual Blizzard battle.net. I just assumed it would work for that too. I just tried it and I got the same error you described. I much prefer to play on iCCup anyway so it doesn't really bother me. It's a shame it doesn't work on normal battle.net though.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
October 02 2010 13:03 GMT
#123
I keep on clicking this thinking I am going to get free windows 7.
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Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
October 02 2010 13:32 GMT
#124
Thanks, vek. I get this problem for ICCup, too, just tried... :-(
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Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
October 02 2010 13:56 GMT
#125
vek, do you still manage to get into ICCup?
I use Win7 Professional 64 bit BTW.
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Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
October 02 2010 16:53 GMT
#126
Update: You do not need "altwinpos" in DDHack's config, force Vsync to off in your display driver.
With this, I do not get the "back to desktop" problem when trying to connect to Bnet;

Instead, I (again) get "..was unable to properly identify your application version [...] you may have a computer virus [...]" from Bnet.
Seems like the DDHack dll's presence causes this...any workaround?

This way I at least get into ICCup.
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Husmusen
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden92 Posts
October 02 2010 17:04 GMT
#127
I use win7 and never had any problems with anything wonder why
Effort is the man Effort understands
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
October 02 2010 17:21 GMT
#128
That IS a wonder. What version do you have? I assume you play Bnet?
Do you have aero features active?
Do you have any old DirectX installed maybe?
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9555 Posts
October 02 2010 18:05 GMT
#129
On October 03 2010 01:53 Metaspace wrote:
Update: You do not need "altwinpos" in DDHack's config, force Vsync to off in your display driver.
With this, I do not get the "back to desktop" problem when trying to connect to Bnet;

Instead, I (again) get "..was unable to properly identify your application version [...] you may have a computer virus [...]" from Bnet.
Seems like the DDHack dll's presence causes this...any workaround?

This way I at least get into ICCup.

Is this a typo? Because Squall_Leonhart69r said you NEED this options for Starcraft to work properly.

Oh and sux that it doesn't work on official bnet servers, but at least it works on iccup right?
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Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
October 05 2010 15:47 GMT
#130
No this is not a typo. You do not need the "altwinpos" option, if you instead force your display driver to set Vsync=off (my NVidea drivers allow this on a per-application basis).

The advantage is in my case, that I can (at least) try to connect.
I assume Starcraft does an integrity check, and forbids connecting to Bnet because of the presence of DDHack....

And yes, not being able to get into Bnet sucks toally, I regularely play casual games with a number of friends there that do not play ICCup, as well as quality 3v3 hunters games.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9555 Posts
October 05 2010 16:17 GMT
#131
On October 06 2010 00:47 Metaspace wrote:
And yes, not being able to get into Bnet sucks toally, I regularely play casual games with a number of friends there that do not play ICCup, as well as quality 3v3 hunters games.

Same here, so I hope there's a workaround for this.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
October 07 2010 09:16 GMT
#132
As far as I can see it, Blizzard could patch BW to tolerate DDHack, or change graphics to output to, i.e., 16bit color in a wrapper around the original output.

Of course Microsoft could get their shit together and publish a proper backward compatible DirectDraw dll
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9555 Posts
October 07 2010 15:18 GMT
#133
On October 07 2010 18:16 Metaspace wrote:
As far as I can see it, Blizzard could patch BW to tolerate DDHack, or change graphics to output to, i.e., 16bit color in a wrapper around the original output.

Of course Microsoft could get their shit together and publish a proper backward compatible DirectDraw dll

Lol, we're doomed.
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Shiro)Tenshi
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
China214 Posts
October 07 2010 15:42 GMT
#134
When I bought windows 7 about a year ago, brood war started freezing every 5 minutes into the game...
I didn't know what to do so I just randomly updated my nvidia graphics driver and for some reason my bw doesn't freeze anymore
It still has color problems, but I could easily fix that by killing off explorer.exe when I play
Embrace Skill
Profile Joined October 2010
England6 Posts
October 07 2010 20:21 GMT
#135
Are there issues with input lag with Win 7 and BW? If so, is windowed mode the solution for that as well?
TheWa11
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1 Post
October 08 2010 05:43 GMT
#136
I was having the same problem with broodwar on windows 7 and i turned on 'enable cpu threading' in the speed settings. I haven't crashed since :D

Try this out, I hope this works for everyone else.
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 09:46:09
October 08 2010 09:39 GMT
#137
On October 08 2010 14:43 TheWa11 wrote:
I was having the same problem with broodwar on windows 7 and i turned on 'enable cpu threading' in the speed settings. I haven't crashed since :D

Try this out, I hope this works for everyone else.


Will try that.
Otherwise, ALL my drivers are up-to-date, but BW crashes consistently within the first 3 minutes of the game.

Concerning lag etc.: Did not notice anything there. Using window mode, the mouse reactiveness is poor, it can be improved by switching off "mouse acceleration" in the window's control panel/mouse, but still not ideal.

The colors can easily be fixed with a registry addition (there is a thread here).
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 09 2010 01:13 GMT
#138
I can't change the core affinity settings when I launch the game w/ the ICCup Launcher ;l any way around this?
Writerptrk
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
October 09 2010 04:57 GMT
#139
On October 09 2010 10:13 ArvickHero wrote:
I can't change the core affinity settings when I launch the game w/ the ICCup Launcher ;l any way around this?


You have to click "Show processes from all users" in the bottom left hand corner of task manager first. This is how I got around it anyway.

On October 02 2010 22:56 Metaspace wrote:
vek, do you still manage to get into ICCup?
I use Win7 Professional 64 bit BTW.


Yeah I can still get into ICCup.

The only issue I get is the black backgrounds underneath text but this only happens in the battle.net interface so it doesn't bother me.

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I'm going to do some investigating and try to make it work on blizzard battle.net also (hooray for free time).
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
October 09 2010 14:14 GMT
#140
On October 08 2010 14:43 TheWa11 wrote:
I was having the same problem with broodwar on windows 7 and i turned on 'enable cpu threading' in the speed settings. I haven't crashed since :D

Try this out, I hope this works for everyone else.

Does NOT work. Another crash. :-(((
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