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SCBOY Forum post: https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-694301.htm
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1849 Posts
November 13 2024 11:46 GMT
#21
On November 13 2024 09:36 Acrofales wrote:
So much for Microsoft being good for SC2. Problems with authorization just seems like such a bullshit excuse, when the Blizzard-China deal problems were solved years ago. The answer from Microsoft to "do you allow us to continue running this awesome team tournament with sponsors" should be an immediate and resounding yes.

The other problems are clear, of course.

what do you mean? It was leaked WC3 is getting a 2.0 and WC2 a remake. Microsoft has a history with pushing Age of Empires content as well with remakes and sequals too. It is entirely possible they plan on making a SC3 or are already working on one. I dont know what u thought microsoft was going to do for SC2 in this scenario, invest in its esports? They are making a StarCraft shooter allegedly so i think it is entirely plausible they are using that to reignite fans interest in the ip and may plan on making a StarCraft 3 after that.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-13 13:39:02
November 13 2024 13:37 GMT
#22
On November 13 2024 09:36 Acrofales wrote:
So much for Microsoft being good for SC2. Problems with authorization just seems like such a bullshit excuse, when the Blizzard-China deal problems were solved years ago. The answer from Microsoft to "do you allow us to continue running this awesome team tournament with sponsors" should be an immediate and resounding yes.

The other problems are clear, of course.


Microsoft has cut hundreds if not thousands of jobs at Blizzard in the last two years, so it might not even be a real issue. Sometimes things take a long time in those big companies for purely administrative/bureaucratic reasons, even more people get cut by the dozens every other day. Who knows if the ESL file is just at the bottom of a pile somewhere?

However, it sounds like SCBoy is waiting on ESL for the calendar and stuff, not the OK to run their event.
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
November 13 2024 14:05 GMT
#23
Gief moar starswar plz those were great. Fighting! I cannot see china scene going away with how many promising talents are coming up.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-13 14:28:05
November 13 2024 14:27 GMT
#24
On November 13 2024 23:05 ejozl wrote:
Gief moar starswar plz those were great. Fighting! I cannot see china scene going away with how many promising talents are coming up.

If they change the name I’m down.

Given the cultural phenomenon of Star Wars has permeated basically my whole lifespan, at times enthused me, it is SO blooming awkward to say Stars War

I kid, it’s cool to see these events, not just in SC2 but WC3 as well
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duckTemplar
Profile Joined February 2011
United States200 Posts
November 17 2024 17:49 GMT
#25
is there any upcoming big games in 2025 that's confirmed?
The first word Kerrigan said to Raynor was "...You Pig!", to Raynor's response "What? ... oh you're a psychic"
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1214 Posts
November 17 2024 19:47 GMT
#26
On November 18 2024 02:49 duckTemplar wrote:
is there any upcoming big games in 2025 that's confirmed?


Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora is confirmed

https://x.com/BGEStaraZagora/status/1857063947632885854
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Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-22 15:58:31
November 22 2024 15:51 GMT
#27
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
November 22 2024 18:08 GMT
#28
Thank you to SCBoy and everyone in the Chinese SC scene for the contributions throughout the years. I don't claim to have been a regular follower of WTL, but the longevity was admirable and with other proleagues disbanding, it had a special role in the scene.

Can't fault the pros who get a check from EWC, but the situation does suck for sure.
Mine gas, build tanks.
hoursetl7
Profile Joined December 2024
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-10 17:40:33
December 01 2024 21:16 GMT
#29
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
thunder33
Profile Joined December 2024
3 Posts
December 04 2024 07:47 GMT
#30
It's sad to see a team tournament go away, but as someone who never followed WTL too well and saw StarWars 11 looking pretty good, there's still some hope anyway!
dancatara
Profile Joined December 2024
1 Post
December 04 2024 10:51 GMT
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