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The ESL Pro Tour has been discontinued.

No announcement has been made regarding the GSL.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1361 Posts
March 20 2025 11:53 GMT
#281
On March 20 2025 20:42 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 13:11 Balnazza wrote:
EWC is currently announcing the different tournament setups and systems, so honestly, if we don't get any kind of announcement until that is done, it is pretty much over.


Did anything come out of this?


They do it over multiple days without any clear schedule, so hard to tell. But if all 17(?) systems are announced, I would assume it is done
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
March 20 2025 13:51 GMT
#282
On March 20 2025 12:03 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 08:39 CicadaSC wrote:
at what point would u guys accept there will be no league this year? id say april is the latest i will hold out for, that is 1/3rd through the year any kind of league after that wouldnt make much sense imo though i could still see EWC happening.

I already gave up on the idea of a pro-tour after they didnt announce SC2 for IEM this year. If EWC happen then it would just be a large qualifer, with Clem probably got invited.

I said long ago that the professional SC2 is dead and people disagreed with me. At this point, even if a pro circuit is announced, the amount of players playing in it is going to be pretty small and the skill level will have decreased sharply compared to years past. Accept that the scene is dead and move on.
Ch3rry
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland229 Posts
March 20 2025 14:12 GMT
#283
Team Liquid partnered with 2025 EWFC Club Partner Program. Can't you share any insider info?

https://esportsworldcup.com/en/news/ewcf-club-partner-program-2025

With this year’s focus on high-growth regions, the 2025 EWCF Club Partner Program represents a truly global roster, including six Clubs from China, alongside additions from rapidly expanding markets like Japan, India, and LATAM. The full lineup of Clubs, in alphabetic order:
100 Thieves, All Gamers, Bilibili Gaming, Cloud9, Edward Gaming, EVOS, FaZe Clan, Fnatic, FURIA, G2 Esports, Gaimin Gladiators, Gen.G, Gentle Mates, HEROIC, JD Gaming, Karmine Corp., Movistar KOI, LEVIATAN, LOUD, MOUZ, NAVI, NIP.eStar, ONIC, POWR, REJECT, S8UL, Sentinels, T1, Team BDS, Team Falcons, Team Liquid, Team RRQ, Team Secret, Team Spirit, Team Vitality, Twisted Minds, Virtus.pro, Weibo Gaming, Wolves Esports, ZETA DIVISION.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1361 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-20 14:21:57
March 20 2025 14:20 GMT
#284
On March 20 2025 22:51 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 12:03 tigera6 wrote:
On March 20 2025 08:39 CicadaSC wrote:
at what point would u guys accept there will be no league this year? id say april is the latest i will hold out for, that is 1/3rd through the year any kind of league after that wouldnt make much sense imo though i could still see EWC happening.

I already gave up on the idea of a pro-tour after they didnt announce SC2 for IEM this year. If EWC happen then it would just be a large qualifer, with Clem probably got invited.

I said long ago that the professional SC2 is dead and people disagreed with me. At this point, even if a pro circuit is announced, the amount of players playing in it is going to be pretty small and the skill level will have decreased sharply compared to years past. Accept that the scene is dead and move on.


"Move on" he said, still being here?

On March 20 2025 23:12 Ch3rry wrote:
Team Liquid partnered with 2025 EWFC Club Partner Program. Can't you share any insider info?

https://esportsworldcup.com/en/news/ewcf-club-partner-program-2025

With this year’s focus on high-growth regions, the 2025 EWCF Club Partner Program represents a truly global roster, including six Clubs from China, alongside additions from rapidly expanding markets like Japan, India, and LATAM. The full lineup of Clubs, in alphabetic order:
100 Thieves, All Gamers, Bilibili Gaming, Cloud9, Edward Gaming, EVOS, FaZe Clan, Fnatic, FURIA, G2 Esports, Gaimin Gladiators, Gen.G, Gentle Mates, HEROIC, JD Gaming, Karmine Corp., Movistar KOI, LEVIATAN, LOUD, MOUZ, NAVI, NIP.eStar, ONIC, POWR, REJECT, S8UL, Sentinels, T1, Team BDS, Team Falcons, Team Liquid, Team RRQ, Team Secret, Team Spirit, Team Vitality, Twisted Minds, Virtus.pro, Weibo Gaming, Wolves Esports, ZETA DIVISION.



The Partner Program is not necessarily connected to the World Cup. And even if TL-HigherUps knew something, leaking informations right after you get introduced in such a program would be an awfully terrible idea
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
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Ch3rry
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland229 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-20 16:53:08
March 20 2025 16:48 GMT
#285
Just now I noticed Tekken 8 added. Not sure if was announced before and they changed order or not. However on EWC homepage only one slot left with "Coming soon" label.
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1269 Posts
March 20 2025 17:50 GMT
#286
On March 21 2025 01:48 Ch3rry wrote:
Just now I noticed Tekken 8 added. Not sure if was announced before and they changed order or not. However on EWC homepage only one slot left with "Coming soon" label.

Man, it would be singularly unsatisfactory if SC2's run as one of the large esport disciplines ended silently by just not being included in EWC without any announcement or farewell at all.
Mutation complete.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17865 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-20 20:21:30
March 20 2025 20:09 GMT
#287
On March 21 2025 02:50 Antithesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2025 01:48 Ch3rry wrote:
Just now I noticed Tekken 8 added. Not sure if was announced before and they changed order or not. However on EWC homepage only one slot left with "Coming soon" label.

Man, it would be singularly unsatisfactory if SC2's run as one of the large esport disciplines ended silently by just not being included in EWC without any announcement or farewell at all.

That ending is congruent with the sometimes criminal, ruthless, amoral, exponential profit growth centric industry within which SC2 resides.

Every week great passion projects built by under a dozen dedicated lifers get sold off to hedge fund managers run by Casualty Actuaries.

In 1976, Warner Communications bought Atari. Look what happened. Atari did everything possible to wreck the lives of Bob Whitehead, David Crane, Larry Miller and Rob Fulop... the industry's greatest creators.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27402 Posts
March 20 2025 23:06 GMT
#288
On March 21 2025 05:09 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2025 02:50 Antithesis wrote:
On March 21 2025 01:48 Ch3rry wrote:
Just now I noticed Tekken 8 added. Not sure if was announced before and they changed order or not. However on EWC homepage only one slot left with "Coming soon" label.

Man, it would be singularly unsatisfactory if SC2's run as one of the large esport disciplines ended silently by just not being included in EWC without any announcement or farewell at all.

That ending is congruent with the sometimes criminal, ruthless, amoral, exponential profit growth centric industry within which SC2 resides.

Every week great passion projects built by under a dozen dedicated lifers get sold off to hedge fund managers run by Casualty Actuaries.

In 1976, Warner Communications bought Atari. Look what happened. Atari did everything possible to wreck the lives of Bob Whitehead, David Crane, Larry Miller and Rob Fulop... the industry's greatest creators.

I find this hard to reconcile with your frequent hero worship of Bobby Kotick
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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LaughNgamez
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada525 Posts
March 21 2025 00:50 GMT
#289
On March 20 2025 22:51 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 12:03 tigera6 wrote:
On March 20 2025 08:39 CicadaSC wrote:
at what point would u guys accept there will be no league this year? id say april is the latest i will hold out for, that is 1/3rd through the year any kind of league after that wouldnt make much sense imo though i could still see EWC happening.

I already gave up on the idea of a pro-tour after they didnt announce SC2 for IEM this year. If EWC happen then it would just be a large qualifer, with Clem probably got invited.

I said long ago that the professional SC2 is dead and people disagreed with me. At this point, even if a pro circuit is announced, the amount of players playing in it is going to be pretty small and the skill level will have decreased sharply compared to years past. Accept that the scene is dead and move on.


Ah yes the unique take of SC2 being dead. No one has ever predicted the demise of SC2 in the past 13 years and been wrong.

If it's dead and not worth the bother do us a favour and stop commenting on SC threads.
(◕‿◕✿) Hopefully one day a decent caster http://www.youtube.com/LaughNgamez (◠‿◠✿)
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1992 Posts
March 21 2025 01:40 GMT
#290
On March 21 2025 01:48 Ch3rry wrote:
Just now I noticed Tekken 8 added. Not sure if was announced before and they changed order or not. However on EWC homepage only one slot left with "Coming soon" label.

oh yes, tekken 8 was just added so that means only one game left...
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1361 Posts
March 21 2025 02:14 GMT
#291
On March 21 2025 10:40 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2025 01:48 Ch3rry wrote:
Just now I noticed Tekken 8 added. Not sure if was announced before and they changed order or not. However on EWC homepage only one slot left with "Coming soon" label.

oh yes, tekken 8 was just added so that means only one game left...


One game left and two games from last year still not in the lineup: SC2 and Fortnite.

If it is either of these games, you certainly could make an argument for both: Fortnite clearly is the "bigger" game, having a particularly strong pull with the youth. On the other hand, since EWC tries to emulate the magic of ESWC/WCG of old, with "all kind of games" coming together, it seems like a big oversight to not have any RTS in the lineup. Considering there are three(?) Battle Royales in the lineups that all have bigger Esports-scenes than Fortnite, it really seems redundant to pick it.

That being said...who the F knows how the EWCF decides what games to pick. Maybe the last game will be Quake just to be edgy...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
TL+ Member
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
March 21 2025 03:13 GMT
#292
On March 20 2025 23:20 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 22:51 geokilla wrote:
On March 20 2025 12:03 tigera6 wrote:
On March 20 2025 08:39 CicadaSC wrote:
at what point would u guys accept there will be no league this year? id say april is the latest i will hold out for, that is 1/3rd through the year any kind of league after that wouldnt make much sense imo though i could still see EWC happening.

I already gave up on the idea of a pro-tour after they didnt announce SC2 for IEM this year. If EWC happen then it would just be a large qualifer, with Clem probably got invited.

I said long ago that the professional SC2 is dead and people disagreed with me. At this point, even if a pro circuit is announced, the amount of players playing in it is going to be pretty small and the skill level will have decreased sharply compared to years past. Accept that the scene is dead and move on.


"Move on" he said, still being here?

I still have this site as my browser home page. I don't know what to change it to tbh. Don't want to use Reddit or YouTube or anything like that....
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1992 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-21 07:32:52
March 21 2025 07:32 GMT
#293
Looking at some general Esports comments and it seems a lot of people are expecting the last game could be Marvel Rivals, and honestly, given the ecosystem right now, I think it makes the most sense...
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7408 Posts
March 21 2025 08:45 GMT
#294
On March 20 2025 23:20 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2025 22:51 geokilla wrote:
On March 20 2025 12:03 tigera6 wrote:
On March 20 2025 08:39 CicadaSC wrote:
at what point would u guys accept there will be no league this year? id say april is the latest i will hold out for, that is 1/3rd through the year any kind of league after that wouldnt make much sense imo though i could still see EWC happening.

I already gave up on the idea of a pro-tour after they didnt announce SC2 for IEM this year. If EWC happen then it would just be a large qualifer, with Clem probably got invited.

I said long ago that the professional SC2 is dead and people disagreed with me. At this point, even if a pro circuit is announced, the amount of players playing in it is going to be pretty small and the skill level will have decreased sharply compared to years past. Accept that the scene is dead and move on.


"Move on" he said, still being here?



Aren't we all kinda lying to ourselves? It's that glimmer of hope that just won't die
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
okkingliving
Profile Joined March 2025
1 Post
March 21 2025 09:43 GMT
#295
👍
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7408 Posts
March 21 2025 09:59 GMT
#296
On March 21 2025 16:32 CicadaSC wrote:
Looking at some general Esports comments and it seems a lot of people are expecting the last game could be Marvel Rivals, and honestly, given the ecosystem right now, I think it makes the most sense...


Rivals has a lot of traction right now on Steam, Twitch and Reddit. Haven't really played myself but from what I gathered on the Interwebs it is a rather unbalanced, casual game good for memeing rather than a hardcore E-Sports game?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2275 Posts
March 21 2025 12:36 GMT
#297
When is the final game being announced?
Cogito, ergo Toss
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1361 Posts
March 21 2025 12:55 GMT
#298
On March 21 2025 21:36 SharkStarcraft wrote:
When is the final game being announced?


Roughly six to ten weeks ago I think? xD They are hilariously behind schedule and at some point just removed any indicator when the last few games will be announced
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2275 Posts
March 21 2025 20:30 GMT
#299
On March 21 2025 21:55 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2025 21:36 SharkStarcraft wrote:
When is the final game being announced?


Roughly six to ten weeks ago I think? xD They are hilariously behind schedule and at some point just removed any indicator when the last few games will be announced


...sounds fantastic and highly professional! Thanks for the answer.
Cogito, ergo Toss
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1992 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-23 23:44:12
March 23 2025 23:42 GMT
#300
At this point if there is a ESL/EWC I will not be watching... I can not support this behavior. If you're working on something say you're working on something. If you're done say you're done. ESL is owned by Saudi Arabia and so is EWC. Run by clowns is more accurate though who do not care about the game or players.
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