EPTA huge bug has been found in the Chinese community
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serralbest
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Vision0
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serralbest
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gingerfluffmuffnr2
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serralbest
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The Baneling deal double damage to uphill units Some believe this is because of an update in January '23 | ||
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serralbest
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On February 21 2024 21:07 gingerfluffmuffnr2 wrote: Is there a source? Has someone in the community replicated it? I bet Mr Minerals is on the case, best posts ever. A video of the test has been posted on a Chinese website | ||
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serralbest
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goldensail
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Mizenhauer
United States1885 Posts
On February 22 2024 01:49 goldensail wrote: This is BIG, and yet just one example of how bad a job the so-called balance team has been doing. A bug has nothing to deal with the balance team. | ||
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Durnuu
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Philippe
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On February 22 2024 01:50 Mizenhauer wrote: A bug has nothing to deal with the balance team. You won't be able to prevent some users to throw that lazy shortcut, but if anything, blame Phil Spencer, not the Balance Team (conspiracy theorist hat, maybe he's a Terran hater ?) Exaggerating on purpose to underscore how funny these comments are. But there's wondering whether there's any test servers where they troubleshoot the patches before releasing them live ... | ||
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youaremysin
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dysenterymd
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On February 22 2024 02:24 youaremysin wrote: Probably isn't game breaker since it seems to only affect the first unit cause the others will get the vision? nice find tho Baneling splash might kill multiple units at once. Also depending on how it interacts with burrow (if a bane unborrows on a ramp while there's no vision of the top does that deal double damage?) it could make baneling landmines a lot stronger. But yeah most of the time it probably doesn't matter much because Toss usually has oracles/obs and Terran usually has medivacs, though weird marine moveouts could be impacted. It's probably less impactful than +1 collosus range was, but needs to be patched out ASAP either way. | ||
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serralbest
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On February 22 2024 02:24 youaremysin wrote: Probably isn't game breaker since it seems to only affect the first unit cause the others will get the vision? nice find tho I'm not sure But Some people think it has nothing to do with vision，It has to do with where you are on the hill | ||
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Zzzapper
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I guess it's especially significant against e.g. ghosts and zealots where it'll make banes trade efficiently even against small numbers. Or in ZvZ against the occasional roach/queen wall on a ramp (which already mostly happens against ling/bane all-ins...) Considering the recent history of the game, it will probably take ages to get fixed too | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On February 22 2024 01:50 Mizenhauer wrote: A bug has nothing to deal with the balance team. Well the intern for the balance team is also the intern for the bug team, d'uh. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25610 Posts
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ZAWGURN
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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WombaT
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OmniSkeptic
Canada76 Posts
On February 22 2024 02:51 Zzzapper wrote: Considering the recent history of the game, it will probably take ages to get fixed too Patch notes to my knowledge are only about to be locked in for the upcoming patch, so we will almost certainly see this fixed soon On February 22 2024 10:55 Nakajin wrote: Seems like a timely opportunity to bring back Feardragon video about the danger of patches in this day and age. + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIR1zmeRHkU Meh, beats the alternative which is never receiving any patches. I'll take some bugs, most relatively minor, over that any day The bug is caused by the August patch I believe. Particularly, it's the result of a fix to a bug created in Blizzard's time (that existed far prior to January) where banelings would blow up on a rock/cooling tower that was on a different cliff level and do zero damage (Basically most downwards ramps that had a cooling ramp were affected, such as NeoHumanity and iirc Dragon Scales which were in the pool at the time). I guess the fix was implemented in such a way that the "fix" damage to the "lowground" unit/tower is triggered when units are on a ramp since ramps have a portion that are considered both high and low ground, causing the damage to duplicate. Iirc a solution has already been logged by Ahli on github and we will see the fix deployed in the upcoming confirmed patch | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On February 22 2024 15:17 OmniSkeptic wrote: Patch notes to my knowledge are only about to be locked in for the upcoming patch, so we will almost certainly see this fixed soon Meh, beats the alternative which is never receiving any patches. I'll take some bugs, most relatively minor, over that any day The bug is caused by the August patch I believe. Particularly, it was the result of a fix to a bug created in Blizzard's time (that existed far prior to January) where banelings would blow up on a rock/cooling tower that was on a different cliff level and do zero damage (Basically most downwards ramps that had a cooling ramp were affected, such as NeoHumanity and iirc Dragon Scales which were in the pool at the time). I guess the fix was implemented in such a way that the "fix" damage to the "lowground" unit/tower is triggered when units are on a ramp since ramps have a portion that are considered both high and low ground, causing the damage to duplicate. Iirc a solution has already been logged by Ahli on github and we will see the fix deployed in the upcoming confirmed patch That's kind of the thing Ravi is speaking about, taking unecessary risk with patches and getting stuck with the bugs. They tried to fixed a small bug about using baneling on rocks, but created a much bigger bug and now we don't know when we will actually be able to fix it. | ||
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FFXthebest
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This thread made it on PiG’s YouTube video | ||
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serralbest
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On February 24 2024 01:05 FFXthebest wrote: We did it! This thread made it on PiG’s YouTube video I think this will make more people aware of the bug | ||
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OmniSkeptic
Canada76 Posts
On February 22 2024 21:20 Nakajin wrote: That's kind of the thing Ravi is speaking about, taking unecessary risk with patches and getting stuck with the bugs. They tried to fixed a small bug about using baneling on rocks, but created a much bigger bug and now we don't know when we will actually be able to fix it. The bug is roughly the same severity as the one that was fixed imo. I feel like this is also selling short the fact that we've had a gigantic list of fixes patched in by the community. It's sampling bias - the community doesn't come to know or care about the larger number of bugs that are fixed, only the smaller number of ones that are created | ||
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goldensail
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On February 24 2024 01:05 FFXthebest wrote: We did it! This thread made it on PiG’s YouTube video well he basically called it a non-issue | ||
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