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Oliveira wins IEM Katowice 2023 - Page 5

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Curufinwe Feanor
Profile Joined August 2012
Brazil91 Posts
February 15 2023 20:09 GMT
#81
On February 16 2023 04:03 tlnetuser108 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2023 02:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 15 2023 01:26 ejozl wrote:
I wanted to be edgy and say this tournament isn't legitimate, because of patch and maps. But this win was just too perfect. I don't think either katowice, or cabal can take credit for what happened. Because this happened despite of all the odds being against him. It's kind of like the ForGG "ECCH!" moment, very emotional and from a super underdog winning, but this was just on the grandest of scales that we have and from a lone Chinese player as well.

All hail Oli the normal man!


I'm not letting ESL off the hook that easily for their decision to push the patch and the maps out for this tournament when IEM Katowice is supposed to be the global final for the 2022 Starcraft year. That was a stupid decision, and an unfair decision to the players and they got SUPER lucky that a miracle run like Oliveira's (not to mention Serral blanking out in ZvZ) saved the tournament from the doomed narrative that a lot of people expected from it.

I'm not even super against the balance patch itself, I just hated the goddamn timing of it, especially when combined the decision to make a gigantic map pool for the tournament which almost always benefits Zerg more than anyone else.

So it doesn't seem like a mutually exclusive thing. I can be really happy with TIME's run, and I can still be upset with ESL for their decision making leading into the tournament.


Why are you discounting TIME's win by saying Serral blanked out at ZvZ?


Cus thats what we Serrals fans do. No matter what, Serral is the GOAT
Aure Entüluva
Curufinwe Feanor
Profile Joined August 2012
Brazil91 Posts
February 15 2023 22:35 GMT
#82
On February 14 2023 22:47 AzAlexZ wrote:
Deft and DRX becoming World Champions in Worlds 2022 (League of Legends) in November
Ash Ketchum becoming a World Champion a week later
Messi winning the World Cup a month later
and now Oliveira winning IEM Katowice and also becoming a World Champ

Bro these last few months have been so shocking for the biggest gaming, sports, and anime scenes holy shit so many cinderella stories and dreams come true my gosh


So ducking true!!!
Aure Entüluva
heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
February 16 2023 03:06 GMT
#83
What a story, what a shock.

Natizens here always reference the championship of Sky as the inspiration to lit up the Warcraft3 scene in China, and wonder if there will be one in sc2. Well, thanks to someone, we won't have a chance to pop onto the local server to celebrate the single best moment of Chinese starcraft.
bastiensky
Profile Joined April 2013
France7 Posts
February 16 2023 06:33 GMT
#84
what a time to be alive! Thank you Oliveira ! Thank you ESL !
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-16 07:46:58
February 16 2023 07:39 GMT
#85
One of the best if not THE best underdog tournament run in history of competitive Starcraft 2.

The magic of e-Sports at it's very best. Beautiful

Congrats to TIME/Oliveira, GGs WP!
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2223 Posts
February 16 2023 08:27 GMT
#86
I wish I had more people IRL to explain this too, when I got into SC2 in 2013 it felt unfathomable that a foreigner could win a tournament, let alone a Chinese player winning the biggest tournament of the season as his first ever
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
woodst203
Profile Joined February 2023
1 Post
February 20 2023 14:17 GMT
#87
Hello, everyone, I am a Chinese fan. As a Chinese fan, I never thought that Olavira would win the championship. In Oliveira's life, I believe he is also very dreamy. After he returned home, we had a happy celebration for him. We were proud of his winning the championship, which was the most unforgettable moment in China's history. It is ironic and encouraging to get the first place in the world without Chinese servers.
spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
February 20 2023 20:16 GMT
#88
Was able to attend this tournament as my first live event since the pandemic. Had a really great time and loved watching TIME/Oliveira's Cinderella run. I'm hoping the Chinese players and community find some joy with this despite their server going down.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
2010 Posts
February 23 2023 12:45 GMT
#89
I just watched a bunch of Oliveira's games. His win was not a fluke, but a pattern emerged in various matchups.

1: Open very safely, minimal early harassment and no cheese.
2: Wait for the opponent to throw the first stone and defend like a boss.
3: Strike back ASAP without mercy and end the game before 15 minutes.

It certainly worked this time, but Oliveira I don't feel his opponents did the best job playing against him. ECO cheese would probably have worked much better than trying and failing at early pressure again and again.
Buff the siegetank
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
February 25 2023 22:17 GMT
#90
On February 23 2023 21:45 Slydie wrote:
I just watched a bunch of Oliveira's games. His win was not a fluke, but a pattern emerged in various matchups.

1: Open very safely, minimal early harassment and no cheese.
2: Wait for the opponent to throw the first stone and defend like a boss.
3: Strike back ASAP without mercy and end the game before 15 minutes.

It certainly worked this time, but Oliveira I don't feel his opponents did the best job playing against him. ECO cheese would probably have worked much better than trying and failing at early pressure again and again.


One single cyclone really did work defensive wonders for him in multiple games against both HerO and Maru!

What a great story and well deserved trophy...amazing!

PS: Did ChatGPT enter these forums? :o
~~(,,ºº>
xiaoyao93027
Profile Joined March 2023
2 Posts
March 04 2023 14:20 GMT
#91
This is history!
En Taro Oliveira

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