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Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
February 13 2023 10:16 GMT
#41
I think Maru gets exhausted on long tournament days earlier than most other players. He gets impatient and tries to end games early. This is why he does so much better in GSL than in weekend tournaments.
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Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
February 13 2023 10:43 GMT
#42
Maru's gotta make the best of the chances he's given if he's to ever win this thing.
After all... Time waits for no-one.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3528 Posts
February 13 2023 11:35 GMT
#43
The Rogue vs Maru games where you say Zerg is imba, don't forget Ravens that blow up everything. It's even worse for Maru, because this was the only way to lose to Rogue. Had the games gotten to the mid game and late game, it would've been an auto win for Maru.

I genuinely think Maru was just cocky. He named himself the best sc2 player. Then when he started to get behind in the series vs Oli, he got super embarrassed. And it was easy to see that he was tilted even before putting down the first Supply Depot.
He might be the best at Starcraft, but mindset is part of determining who is the best Starcraft player.

Serral is the other player of such caliber, but he also deals with mindset issues, leaving early in a 5th game of a bo5..

I'm super happy for Oli and now that he got himself some confidence he might even do well in the GSL.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
February 13 2023 11:52 GMT
#44
On February 13 2023 20:35 ejozl wrote:
The Rogue vs Maru games where you say Zerg is imba, don't forget Ravens that blow up everything. It's even worse for Maru, because this was the only way to lose to Rogue. Had the games gotten to the mid game and late game, it would've been an auto win for Maru.

I genuinely think Maru was just cocky. He named himself the best sc2 player. Then when he started to get behind in the series vs Oli, he got super embarrassed. And it was easy to see that he was tilted even before putting down the first Supply Depot.
He might be the best at Starcraft, but mindset is part of determining who is the best Starcraft player.

Serral is the other player of such caliber, but he also deals with mindset issues, leaving early in a 5th game of a bo5..

I'm super happy for Oli and now that he got himself some confidence he might even do well in the GSL.

Autowin with the ravens what?
Ravens were not that strong in the matchup, it mostly was just annoying gameplay to play and watch but zergs had the tools to deal with it just fine.
WriterMaru
johnnyh123
Profile Joined February 2023
124 Posts
February 13 2023 15:31 GMT
#45
Truly unfortunate. I think Maru prepared intensely for TvZ, and some for TvP on the 11th. As QF ex-himself was composed of 5Z, 1P, 1T, and if I was a betting man, I would not have betted on the 1T to make it to the finals either - the 1T is on the complete opposite side of the bracket.

Just when we all expect him to win, like his first chance at G5L and this time, he disappoints. But hey, G5L curse was lifted last year, so there's always a chance we can see him finally winning at the biggest stage, which he more than deserves.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
February 13 2023 17:41 GMT
#46
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I approve of this thread.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18401 Posts
February 13 2023 17:52 GMT
#47
On February 14 2023 00:31 johnnyh123 wrote:
Truly unfortunate. I think Maru prepared intensely for TvZ, and some for TvP on the 11th. As QF ex-himself was composed of 5Z, 1P, 1T, and if I was a betting man, I would not have betted on the 1T to make it to the finals either - the 1T is on the complete opposite side of the bracket.

Just when we all expect him to win, like his first chance at G5L and this time, he disappoints. But hey, G5L curse was lifted last year, so there's always a chance we can see him finally winning at the biggest stage, which he more than deserves.

That's probably true, regarding practice, but I also don't think Oliveira was spending much time worrying about practice for his match against Maru. You could say, he had to practice TvT for his Ro12 series against Heromarine, but that was the day before, and Maru had to play TvT in the groups as well. I guess he was mentally no longer prepared for TvT, but he was in the TvT group... there's no way you don't practice a decent amount of the matchup if you're in a group with Bunny, Byun and Heromarine, even if you expect that TvZ against Serral, Reynor and Dark, and maybe TvP vs herO are going to be the playoffs you have to focus on: you only get to the playoffs if you don't bomb out in TvT, and both Byun and Bunny have upset him in the fairly recent past (but not this tournament).
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-13 20:24:06
February 13 2023 19:08 GMT
#48
Maru went 6-6 in maps in TvT in this tournament, he played beautiful TvTs vs ByuN and vs Bunny... No it wasnt his lack fo TvT his downfalll, he simply choked.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 13 2023 20:47 GMT
#49
It's hard to consistently win at the highest level in any competitive environment. He might not win every single time he makes it to the finals, but he consistently finds a way to make it to the later stages of every tournament he plays in.

Go to his liquipedia page and look how many tournaments he's made it to the semis in. Truly remarkable.

I don't think he played his best but this level of consistency is ridiculous.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
February 13 2023 20:59 GMT
#50
On February 14 2023 05:47 BluemoonSC wrote:
It's hard to consistently win at the highest level in any competitive environment. He might not win every single time he makes it to the finals, but he consistently finds a way to make it to the later stages of every tournament he plays in.

Go to his liquipedia page and look how many tournaments he's made it to the semis in. Truly remarkable.

I don't think he played his best but this level of consistency is ridiculous.

Yeah I think people don’t appreciate enough how powerless he made Solar and RagnaroK look. It’s not like those two are pushovers: RagnaroK topped his group (which included the eventual champion, the top 1 EU player, a former GSL champion in Cure, etc.) and Solar recently won the GSL:ST.
WriterMaru
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
February 14 2023 20:46 GMT
#51
I said it before and I'll say it again, he either doesn't care when he reaches the grand finals or he kills himself mentally after losing one or two games.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
August 05 2023 15:54 GMT
#52
I hate him so much
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2465 Posts
August 05 2023 16:10 GMT
#53
On August 06 2023 00:54 Nakajin wrote:
I hate him so much


Why? He looked boyish and innocent right?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-05 16:22:05
August 05 2023 16:18 GMT
#54
On August 06 2023 01:10 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 00:54 Nakajin wrote:
I hate him so much


Why? He looked boyish and innocent right?


That's how he get you.

He lure you in flashing those "I'm not gonna choke" eyes, then as soon as he has your trust: BAM! Out in the round of 8.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1945 Posts
August 05 2023 16:19 GMT
#55
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/532653-i-was-wrong-about-maru

Was I actually wrong????
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 05 2023 16:58 GMT
#56
On August 06 2023 01:19 Mizenhauer wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/532653-i-was-wrong-about-maru

Was I actually wrong????

Since you published the "Maru will never win another tournament, INnoVation will look back having saved terran" article, Maru has won 13 premier events including (7 GSL seasons). INnoVation has won 1

It was a great article mind, but historically wrong. Probably the most wrong on this entire site. (would be a great write up if anyone can find all the articles that aged badly)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
August 05 2023 17:02 GMT
#57
On August 06 2023 01:58 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 01:19 Mizenhauer wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/532653-i-was-wrong-about-maru

Was I actually wrong????

Since you published the "Maru will never win another tournament, INnoVation will look back having saved terran" article, Maru has won 13 premier events including (7 GSL seasons). INnoVation has won 1

It was a great article mind, but historically wrong. Probably the most wrong on this entire site. (would be a great write up if anyone can find all the articles that aged badly)


Someone should write another article saying Maru will never win another event please.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
August 05 2023 17:04 GMT
#58
On August 06 2023 01:58 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 01:19 Mizenhauer wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/532653-i-was-wrong-about-maru

Was I actually wrong????

Since you published the "Maru will never win another tournament, INnoVation will look back having saved terran" article, Maru has won 13 premier events including (7 GSL seasons). INnoVation has won 1

It was a great article mind, but historically wrong. Probably the most wrong on this entire site. (would be a great write up if anyone can find all the articles that aged badly)

almost as wrong as the Emperor has no clothes
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1945 Posts
August 05 2023 17:05 GMT
#59
On August 06 2023 02:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 01:58 Fango wrote:
On August 06 2023 01:19 Mizenhauer wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/532653-i-was-wrong-about-maru

Was I actually wrong????

Since you published the "Maru will never win another tournament, INnoVation will look back having saved terran" article, Maru has won 13 premier events including (7 GSL seasons). INnoVation has won 1

It was a great article mind, but historically wrong. Probably the most wrong on this entire site. (would be a great write up if anyone can find all the articles that aged badly)

almost as wrong as the Emperor has no clothes


these things happen
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13325 Posts
August 05 2023 17:17 GMT
#60
On August 06 2023 02:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2023 01:58 Fango wrote:
On August 06 2023 01:19 Mizenhauer wrote:
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/532653-i-was-wrong-about-maru

Was I actually wrong????

Since you published the "Maru will never win another tournament, INnoVation will look back having saved terran" article, Maru has won 13 premier events including (7 GSL seasons). INnoVation has won 1

It was a great article mind, but historically wrong. Probably the most wrong on this entire site. (would be a great write up if anyone can find all the articles that aged badly)

almost as wrong as the Emperor has no clothes

It wasn't wrong, the buffs that made the patchzergs relevant just never got reverted
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
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