EPTGod dammit ---- (IEM WC Spoiler) - Page 2
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Argonauta
Spain4955 Posts
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tigera6
3435 Posts
On February 13 2023 07:35 Riner1212 wrote: i think if he opted for a macro oriented play his chances would have been better, but he wanted to finish of the games earlier and a few engagements that didnt go in his favor... luck was also a factor... it is unfortunate, but oliviera (time), just played a clean and better game... yea it stings but a terran still won at the end of the day. when all said and done maru still made bank lol. but there is always next year. hes still young and has two - three years to get if the SC2 goes that far into the future, that being said, he can still claim a few more gsl's under his belt. Luck is also a product of design, you dont need to flip a coin in these kind of situation. Taking NOTHING away from Oliveira and his magical run, but all he did in some of the game was sitting at home and wait for Maru to messed up, losing units for free then push across the map with 10-12 units advantage and win the game. And I believe that Maru will be able to win at least 2 or even 3 more GSL before he leave for military, but at this moment I just cant get rid of this sour taste from this debacle. Personally, I think this was the best chance for Maru to win a World Title, given how all the Zerg under-performed, herO was also down in PvT, ect. I am positive that there will never be such a good opportunity again for him, and until he "fix the wrongdoing" by actually winning ONE world title, all those GSL title and prize money doesnt mean shit to me. | ||
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Howard_Kao
China261 Posts
But I am extremely happy as a Chinese community member and I just can't smiling right now. | ||
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Glorfindelio
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On February 13 2023 08:34 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Can someone edit this title so people don't get spoiled? Oh, didn't think of that, I can't do it sadly, maybe a mod could step in? | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2655 Posts
Also everytime he is in an international stage. | ||
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Swawks
2 Posts
But is this Innoveira or something? Coming out alive out of a BO7 against Maru in TvT is reserved for some of the best players of all time. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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freaquency88
Malaysia14 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
He lost a single series to someone who was on fire. Relax. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On February 13 2023 10:36 BronzeKnee wrote: Maru is the greatest Terran ever. Only MVP comes close. He lost a single series to someone who was on fire. Relax. Not sure how to put it, but winning a world championship would "complete" his already great career. I think at this point he'd probably value winning IEM Katowice over winning another 2, maybe even 3 gsls. I think people are sad because they feel like he'll probably never get as good of a chance as he did today. | ||
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AcrossFromTime
29 Posts
Anyway, I don't even remember what I'm talking about. But I think Maru fans have a lot more reasons to be happy about their favorite player winning than anyone else except for Serral fans since Serral is the only player to have earned more prize money than Maru. Hopefully I'm not coming across too negative, I just was surprised to see this reaction. If it feels this bad to have your favorite player make it to the finals of the biggest tournament then I don't even know why anyone would watch esports. Whoever your favorite player is, they won't win everything, so we should be happy for them when they do well, even if they don't win. idk, that's what I think at least. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On February 13 2023 11:17 AcrossFromTime wrote: I don't really get this. Maru has the second highest earnings of any Starcraft 2 pro player. Imagine what it must feel like for people who have a protoss player as their favorite player to root for. The top 5 most earning Protoss players are all retired and most of their earnings come from pre-2018. I don't think it's right to be so negative about a player who is the most successful Terran player of all time. It was a 36 player tournament, so the odds were against any individual player winning it. Getting to the finals was an incredible achievement. No matter how good someone is, they won't win every single tournament. Maru has won more prize money than what 80% of the earth's population will earn in their lifetimes. Anyway, I don't even remember what I'm talking about. But I think Maru fans have a lot more reasons to be happy about their favorite player winning than anyone else except for Serral fans since Serral is the only player to have earned more prize money than Maru. Hopefully I'm not coming across too negative, I just was surprised to see this reaction. If it feels this bad to have your favorite player make it to the finals of the biggest tournament then I don't even know why anyone would watch esports. Whoever your favorite player is, they won't win everything, so we should be happy for them when they do well, even if they don't win. idk, that's what I think at least. Fair points. I think a lot of Maru's fans really wanted him to win the finals because it would secure his claim as the greatest SC2 player. That's why his loss stings more than losing in a tournament that occurs more often and isn't as prestigious, like GSL or Dreamhack. With GSL, there's a feeling that there's a next time because there are (hopefully) many GSLs to win in the future but tournaments like IEM Katowice happen only once a year and at this point, Maru probably only has around 1-2 more chances to win it before going to military. | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
But not yesterday. Yesterday, Olivera was in the zone. This happens, tough luck for Maru. | ||
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luxon
United States114 Posts
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Glorfindelio
220 Posts
On February 13 2023 11:17 AcrossFromTime wrote: I don't really get this. Maru has the second highest earnings of any Starcraft 2 pro player. Imagine what it must feel like for people who have a protoss player as their favorite player to root for. The top 5 most earning Protoss players are all retired and most of their earnings come from pre-2018. I don't think it's right to be so negative about a player who is the most successful Terran player of all time. It was a 36 player tournament, so the odds were against any individual player winning it. Getting to the finals was an incredible achievement. No matter how good someone is, they won't win every single tournament. Maru has won more prize money than what 80% of the earth's population will earn in their lifetimes. Anyway, I don't even remember what I'm talking about. But I think Maru fans have a lot more reasons to be happy about their favorite player winning than anyone else except for Serral fans since Serral is the only player to have earned more prize money than Maru. Hopefully I'm not coming across too negative, I just was surprised to see this reaction. If it feels this bad to have your favorite player make it to the finals of the biggest tournament then I don't even know why anyone would watch esports. Whoever your favorite player is, they won't win everything, so we should be happy for them when they do well, even if they don't win. idk, that's what I think at least. I feel like it's a good thing that people care, for the most part. I do think a lot of the vitriol directed at especially Maru and Serral from respective fans goes too far. Disrespecting their accomplishments and stature in the game is pretty moronic to me, but again that speaks to their level. That's partially why this IEM is so amazing--it's the exceedingly rare event where everybody is happy for the champion who had never won a Premier previously outside of China. A World Championship, at that. He'll live forever in sc2 history. And then Maru and Serral stans are equally mad about their favorite player making once-a-career (well, a bit more often for Maru) mistakes. If that isn't legendary, what is? | ||
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lechatnoir
391 Posts
Even if he never wins anything again, this is forever. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16097 Posts
On February 13 2023 10:36 BronzeKnee wrote: Maru is the greatest Terran ever. Only MVP comes close. He lost a single series to someone who was on fire. Relax. It's not the fact he lost this series. It was the way he lost it, and how that fits into a very long pattern of blowing games against players he should beat and almost always during big international tournaments. Watching Maru lose this series brings back the bad memories of all of the other times too. It's a pretty common thing with passionate sports fans to feel this way after a loss. I'm just happy Maru didn't lose like this to one of his rivals and instead lost to the cinderella story of the tournament. | ||
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ZeroByte13
775 Posts
There was no stoping him. | ||
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