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Maru in first GSL ever, back in 2010
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xelnaga_empire
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Highwinds
Canada955 Posts
It's also nice to hear tasteless and artosis back then. Tasteless seems to have so much passion in this cast. (Not like these days)  They sound so young but somehow Artosis looks the exact same LOL Is maru the only player who was in the very first GSL and the very Last GSL? | ||
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samAel1
Poland26 Posts
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
Tasteless looks so young on this vod as well | ||
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Lokol18
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digmouse
China6327 Posts
On October 17 2022 22:24 Highwinds wrote: Crazy who knew this little guy would be the first Bonjwa of SC2 and undisputed best player to touch the game. Just shows hard work pays off! He's been playing SC2 more than half of his entire life at a top level. It's also nice to hear tasteless and artosis back then. Tasteless seems to have so much passion in this cast. (Not like these days) They sound so young but somehow Artosis looks the exact same LOL Is maru the only player who was in the very first GSL and the very Last GSL? He is actually not! ByuN is the only other player from GSL Open 2010 Season 1 to play in GSL 2022 Season 3, he played Protoss in 2010 under the id Bleach. ByuN and Maru are also the only two players to be still active today. Everyone else has retired. | ||
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_fool
Netherlands675 Posts
On October 17 2022 23:47 digmouse wrote: He is actually not! ByuN is the only other player from GSL Open 2010 Season 1 to play in GSL 2022 Season 3, he played Protoss in 2010 under the id Bleach. ByuN and Maru are also the only two players to be still active today. Everyone else has retired. Can we all agree that Bleach is a pretty badass id? Although I doubt that it referred the cleaning product. | ||
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tlnetuser108
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RogerChillingworth
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Artosis looks the same. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
On October 17 2022 23:47 digmouse wrote: He is actually not! ByuN is the only other player from GSL Open 2010 Season 1 to play in GSL 2022 Season 3, he played Protoss in 2010 under the id Bleach. ByuN and Maru are also the only two players to be still active today. Everyone else has retired. Didn't Gumi also played in that first GSL? | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3096 Posts
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GTR
51392 Posts
On October 18 2022 00:27 _fool wrote: Can we all agree that Bleach is a pretty badass id? Although I doubt that it referred the cleaning product. i think he was a fan of the anime. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
On October 18 2022 05:20 Nakajin wrote: Didn't Gumi also played in that first GSL? GuMiho made his debut in Open Season 3. So that was still 2010 and it's very impressive, just not the first one. He was also the only Random player to ever make it into GSL. | ||
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Curufinwe Feanor
Brazil91 Posts
Maru has had plenty of occasions against Serral... But always drops short. Serral is waaaay more consistent. Serral GOAT. Sorry, guys. | ||
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tigera6
3217 Posts
On October 18 2022 22:41 Curufinwe Feanor wrote: Funny thing... people saying MAru is the GOAT. Doesnt have a single world title. Serral has 2. And Serral is Maru's greatest nemesis according do ALigulac. Maru has had plenty of occasions against Serral... But always drops short. Serral is waaaay more consistent. Serral GOAT. Sorry, guys. Then why cant Rogue be GOAT, he won 3 "world title", 4 GSL and has good record against Serral? | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On October 18 2022 22:41 Curufinwe Feanor wrote: Funny thing... people saying MAru is the GOAT. Doesnt have a single world title. Serral has 2. And Serral is Maru's greatest nemesis according do ALigulac. Maru has had plenty of occasions against Serral... But always drops short. Serral is waaaay more consistent. Serral GOAT. Sorry, guys. You know who else has 2 World Championship without (afaik) playing the strongest race by far at the time of those two WCs? sOs. Yet, almost nobody would put him in their top 5 list for GOAT, mostly because he was only good during HotS and a bit in LotV (GSL finals vs INno in 2017, vs ByuN in 2016), and didn't win a single GSL. Serral has no financial interest at going to Korea to try and play in the GSL, but most of his domestic wins (notably in 2018) were against vastly inferior competition: finals versus Has or MaNa... since back then Clem did not reach his peak and Reynor was only allowed to play in the last WCS event iirc? Then he got challenged a lot by Reynor, and later on with the new EPT format Clem was the most dominant player in domestic tournaments (5 DH:EU victories). On the other hand, Rogue has a monstrous 3 World Championship under his belt as well as 4 GSL (although some of them were either against weaker competition, notably the 2022 one with several pros retiring, or in very favorable meta like vs Trap) and some other things. Yet, since Rogue only rose after Kespa was gone and when zerg started getting really strong, it is up to debate if he is really the GOAT, compared to Maru who was incredible on HotS (and pretty decent in WoL but too young) with the OSL/SSL and proleague domination, hero of terran (last terran hope in many tournaments) and the incredible 4 Code S in a row. INnoVation is probably the 3rd candidate for GOAT but Maru and Rogue both got comfortably ahead of him imo. Serral would probably be around the top 5-6. | ||
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goldensail
132 Posts
On October 18 2022 22:41 Curufinwe Feanor wrote: Funny thing... people saying MAru is the GOAT. Doesnt have a single world title. Serral has 2. And Serral is Maru's greatest nemesis according do ALigulac. Maru has had plenty of occasions against Serral... But always drops short. Serral is waaaay more consistent. Serral GOAT. Sorry, guys. GOATs don't lose often to other players of the same race, let alone getting 4:0'ed (by Dark, Reynor, and very nearly by Rogue). Take away the race advantage, and Serral isn't nearly as impressive. Anyone who's played Terran will understand how Maru has taken the race to its limit fairly consistently over a decade. Despite the obvious current race disadvantage he can still win championships. This is why he is the GOAT. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4902 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3338 Posts
On October 18 2022 00:36 tlnetuser108 wrote: Maru is the GOAT right now. Literally nobody else in the world right now even comes close to Maru in skill level at any race or region. Pretty sure you had Serral in the back of your mind while writing this. On October 19 2022 01:37 Poopi wrote: You know who else has 2 World Championship without (afaik) playing the strongest race by far at the time of those two WCs? sOs. Yet, almost nobody would put him in their top 5 list for GOAT, mostly because he was only good during HotS and a bit in LotV (GSL finals vs INno in 2017, vs ByuN in 2016), and didn't win a single GSL. Serral has no financial interest at going to Korea to try and play in the GSL, but most of his domestic wins (notably in 2018) were against vastly inferior competition: finals versus Has or MaNa... since back then Clem did not reach his peak and Reynor was only allowed to play in the last WCS event iirc? Then he got challenged a lot by Reynor, and later on with the new EPT format Clem was the most dominant player in domestic tournaments (5 DH:EU victories). On the other hand, Rogue has a monstrous 3 World Championship under his belt as well as 4 GSL (although some of them were either against weaker competition, notably the 2022 one with several pros retiring, or in very favorable meta like vs Trap) and some other things. Yet, since Rogue only rose after Kespa was gone and when zerg started getting really strong, it is up to debate if he is really the GOAT, compared to Maru who was incredible on HotS (and pretty decent in WoL but too young) with the OSL/SSL and proleague domination, hero of terran (last terran hope in many tournaments) and the incredible 4 Code S in a row. INnoVation is probably the 3rd candidate for GOAT but Maru and Rogue both got comfortably ahead of him imo. Serral would probably be around the top 5-6. I would say Terran is the strongest race atm, at least on this map pool. So I'm not sure about your balance claims. Serral beating Has and MaNa is ofc a fair thing to say. But the thing is when the event is truly global, then Serral wins. Do you really think herO or Ragnarok would beat Serral in a finals?. And Maru always had a weakness to more cheesy play, be it Protoss or Zerg, making it harder for him to reach the finals. | ||
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ReMinD_
Croatia846 Posts
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