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ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-10 17:17:24
September 10 2022 16:37 GMT
#21
On September 09 2022 20:31 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2022 18:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 09 2022 17:10 Sorathez wrote:
Hold the goddamn phone.

Brat_OK? Kas? DIMAGA? NANIWA?!? What year is this?

Niniwa is an idiot who should never be playing for a Team again.
No ideal why Root is feeling him, when there are way less tixic players that are probably better as well available:

Agreed, any team fielding Naniwa is pretty unforgiveable. Lost a lot of respect for Catz.

Hoping Hist&Toss makes it, the world needs more Has.


I understand Naniwa has had poor attitudes - but he isn't banned from competition, and ROOT is open to any Masters+ player who applies, we don't want to be restrictive. Personally, I like Naniwa, and I am sorry if that offends anyone. I've explained my position more than once,very long thread of replies on twitter here:

https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ/status/1559314845723394049

I hope you read it in full, there is also linked in one of the replies, a reddit thread, where I talked about the same "issue" hope that helps clarify my position, even if yours is different and you would act differently.
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-10 16:41:19
September 10 2022 16:39 GMT
#22
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 10 2022 20:43 GMT
#23
On September 11 2022 01:37 ROOTCatZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2022 20:31 dysenterymd wrote:
On September 09 2022 18:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 09 2022 17:10 Sorathez wrote:
Hold the goddamn phone.

Brat_OK? Kas? DIMAGA? NANIWA?!? What year is this?

Niniwa is an idiot who should never be playing for a Team again.
No ideal why Root is feeling him, when there are way less tixic players that are probably better as well available:
https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ/status/1559314845723394049

Agreed, any team fielding Naniwa is pretty unforgiveable. Lost a lot of respect for Catz.

Hoping Hist&Toss makes it, the world needs more Has.


I understand Naniwa has had poor attitudes - but he isn't banned from competition, and ROOT is open to any Masters+ player who applies, we don't want to be restrictive. Personally, I like Naniwa, and I am sorry if that offends anyone. I've explained my position more than once,very long thread of replies on twitter here:

https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ/status/1559314845723394049

I hope you read it in full, there is also linked in one of the replies, a reddit thread, where I talked about the same "issue" hope that helps clarify my position, even if yours is different and you would act differently.

Sorry, but that is somewhere between naive and dilusional
With that aproach, you would just invite people like Putin to talk with you in the Real World. Like my chancenlos Merkel did for years.
Don t want to derail this thread into politics, but the last year Showeinlagen, that that aproach just didn t work there.
I hoghly doupt it ll work in SC2 and will not watch any matches from ROOT in the qualifier or in the Main league, if they make it there
MaxPax
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
September 10 2022 21:22 GMT
#24
Naniwa wrote he wished Hellraiser would have died in the war that is currently ravaging his home country. That is abhorrent.

Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-11 06:17:11
September 11 2022 06:15 GMT
#25
On September 11 2022 05:43 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2022 01:37 ROOTCatZ wrote:
On September 09 2022 20:31 dysenterymd wrote:
On September 09 2022 18:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 09 2022 17:10 Sorathez wrote:
Hold the goddamn phone.

Brat_OK? Kas? DIMAGA? NANIWA?!? What year is this?

Niniwa is an idiot who should never be playing for a Team again.
No ideal why Root is feeling him, when there are way less tixic players that are probably better as well available:
https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ/status/1559314845723394049

Agreed, any team fielding Naniwa is pretty unforgiveable. Lost a lot of respect for Catz.

Hoping Hist&Toss makes it, the world needs more Has.


I understand Naniwa has had poor attitudes - but he isn't banned from competition, and ROOT is open to any Masters+ player who applies, we don't want to be restrictive. Personally, I like Naniwa, and I am sorry if that offends anyone. I've explained my position more than once,very long thread of replies on twitter here:

https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ/status/1559314845723394049

I hope you read it in full, there is also linked in one of the replies, a reddit thread, where I talked about the same "issue" hope that helps clarify my position, even if yours is different and you would act differently.

Sorry, but that is somewhere between naive and dilusional
With that aproach, you would just invite people like Putin to talk with you in the Real World. Like my chancenlos Merkel did for years.
Don t want to derail this thread into politics, but the last year Showeinlagen, that that aproach just didn t work there.
I hoghly doupt it ll work in SC2 and will not watch any matches from ROOT in the qualifier or in the Main league, if they make it there


Well, it's how I approach things - if you think out-casting/shunning 'problematic' people instead of at least trying to understand them and show them a better, less hostile, side from other people than they are probably used to.. I'd say you're the naive one if you expect anyone to adjust their behavior "for the better" with only negative input. Hatred is cyclical - you can choose whoever you like or dislike or whoever you want - but every human being is made by circumstance, shaped by their surroundings, if someone gets no love they won't know how to give it back, likewise if someone only knows hate, that's all they'll have to give.

The notion that there are inherently evil people is ridiculous to me, people are a product of their surroundings, make it hostile, they'll be hostile, make it friendly, they'll be friendly. In my experience, having much interest in people / psychology, this is just the way things go, try it for yourself or don't, idc.

To be clear, Naniwa might have many negative attitudes and as an evolving human being I am sure he'll have more (and I am also certain, that while you're happy to pass on judgement from your high horse; you do also). I think Nani has matured over the years, and as a parent I know that he is very caring for his kid and I've come to know good, kind, sides to him.

Regardless, whenever anyone acts out of line wearing the ROOT tag, it reflects poorly on the rest of the team and we take action accordingly, if it ever comes to that in Naniwa's case while representing us we'll re-evaluate, until then, I am happy to have gained a teammate and a friend in him.

At the end of the day, you can do things your way, I'll do things mine; but if you think actively shaming / hating / shunning people is going to ever make them feel or act any 'better', you're the delusional one.
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3446 Posts
September 11 2022 12:29 GMT
#26
Neeb just lost a game to GungFu, there go the coming trainwreck
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 11 2022 12:34 GMT
#27
On September 11 2022 21:29 tigera6 wrote:
Neeb just lost a game to GungFu, there go the coming trainwreck


NA never disapoint disapointing
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-11 13:27:54
September 11 2022 13:27 GMT
#28
I would imagine Neeb was busy with classes. At the same time, GunGFuBanDa can be a strong contender when he is in form.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-11 14:50:39
September 11 2022 14:28 GMT
#29
I wonder why Berserker aren't fielding Shadow/Soulspirit, it seemed like their best weapons to me (altought I could be wrong)

Dosen't matter, my number two pick make's it, I was not all wrong woooo!!!!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-11 14:47:03
September 11 2022 14:45 GMT
#30
On September 11 2022 22:27 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
I would imagine Neeb was busy with classes. At the same time, GunGFuBanDa can be a strong contender when he is in form.


Neeb is also bad at PvP compared to the other 2 matchups, has lost his last series against Gungfu as well, Gungfu's MMR is probably higher than Neeb at the moment etc

Neeb's ladder activity has been fairly minimal recently, basically has been off the radar for the last 3 weeks apart from a couple of games on NA. I guess he has other priorities at the moment but he can be relied on for weekly games during the regular season
Year of MaxPax
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 11 2022 16:41 GMT
#31
We have our qualified teams!

- Onsyde Gaming (1)
- Berserker eSport (2)
- LTK (8)
- Cranky Duckling (9)

Pretty bad performance for me, I think I underranked TLK re-thinking about it, the Duckling I really didn't see coming.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
September 11 2022 16:56 GMT
#32
Pretty happy Onsyde qualified, although it was bound to happen. WTL without Maru / INno didn’t feel the same for me so at least there will be Maru from now on
WriterMaru
Light_VIP
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia108 Posts
September 11 2022 17:16 GMT
#33
On September 12 2022 01:41 Nakajin wrote:
We have our qualified teams!

- Onsyde Gaming (1)
- Berserker eSport (2)
- LTK (8)
- Cranky Duckling (9)

Pretty bad performance for me, I think I underranked TLK re-thinking about it, the Duckling I really didn't see coming.


How can you not believe in the Ducklings! ;; Honestly I think Dolan, PattyMac and Erik got unlucky in their matches, otherwise they could've each gone on solid runs too ;; Hopefully we can prove that in Code A when we qualify for Code S!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 11 2022 17:18 GMT
#34
On September 12 2022 02:16 Light_VIP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2022 01:41 Nakajin wrote:
We have our qualified teams!

- Onsyde Gaming (1)
- Berserker eSport (2)
- LTK (8)
- Cranky Duckling (9)

Pretty bad performance for me, I think I underranked TLK re-thinking about it, the Duckling I really didn't see coming.


How can you not believe in the Ducklings! ;; Honestly I think Dolan, PattyMac and Erik got unlucky in their matches, otherwise they could've each gone on solid runs too ;; Hopefully we can prove that in Code A when we qualify for Code S!


You must'nt take my oppinion too seriously lol

Very happy for y'all though! (+ we get more of your casting!)
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
goldensail
Profile Joined May 2022
132 Posts
September 11 2022 17:25 GMT
#35
Maru's 2 racks games against the zerg player were very entertaining.
MrIronGolem27
Profile Joined July 2020
United States235 Posts
September 12 2022 08:06 GMT
#36
You said Maru would play hour-long games against Spazymazy but he just proxy 2 rax'd him both games
HyperONE - StarCraft Evolution League organizer, SC: Evo Complete developer, mapmaker (author of Magannatha, TLMC19 2nd place, TLMC17 3rd+5th place), Liquipedia editor
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 12 2022 14:20 GMT
#37
Onsyde more like Offside today?
It looks like all of us were wrong in the pool, as all 3 of Neeb, Maru and Solar suffered some insane upsets in the course of the qualifier and the Code A allready.
MaxPax
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
September 12 2022 18:11 GMT
#38
On September 11 2022 01:37 ROOTCatZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2022 20:31 dysenterymd wrote:
On September 09 2022 18:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 09 2022 17:10 Sorathez wrote:
Hold the goddamn phone.

Brat_OK? Kas? DIMAGA? NANIWA?!? What year is this?

Niniwa is an idiot who should never be playing for a Team again.
No ideal why Root is feeling him, when there are way less tixic players that are probably better as well available:
https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ/status/1559314845723394049

Agreed, any team fielding Naniwa is pretty unforgiveable. Lost a lot of respect for Catz.

Hoping Hist&Toss makes it, the world needs more Has.


I understand Naniwa has had poor attitudes - but he isn't banned from competition, and ROOT is open to any Masters+ player who applies, we don't want to be restrictive. Personally, I like Naniwa, and I am sorry if that offends anyone. I've explained my position more than once,very long thread of replies on twitter here:

https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ/status/1559314845723394049

I hope you read it in full, there is also linked in one of the replies, a reddit thread, where I talked about the same "issue" hope that helps clarify my position, even if yours is different and you would act differently.


Thanks for this. I have historically been a fan of Naniwa although I cannot condone some of his behaviour and I certainly disagree with many of his opinions. I hope being in a supportive team environment is beneficial for all involved and I wish nothing but the best for all parties. I was also a bit surprised to see Nani on the roster, but my deep respect for Catz as a team leader reassured me that nothing at ROOT is done without reason. Thanks for the transparency and honesty and as always, ROOT4ROOT.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
September 13 2022 15:02 GMT
#39
On September 13 2022 03:11 Arghmyliver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2022 01:37 ROOTCatZ wrote:
On September 09 2022 20:31 dysenterymd wrote:
On September 09 2022 18:31 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 09 2022 17:10 Sorathez wrote:
Hold the goddamn phone.

Brat_OK? Kas? DIMAGA? NANIWA?!? What year is this?

Niniwa is an idiot who should never be playing for a Team again.
No ideal why Root is feeling him, when there are way less tixic players that are probably better as well available:
https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ/status/1559314845723394049

Agreed, any team fielding Naniwa is pretty unforgiveable. Lost a lot of respect for Catz.

Hoping Hist&Toss makes it, the world needs more Has.


I understand Naniwa has had poor attitudes - but he isn't banned from competition, and ROOT is open to any Masters+ player who applies, we don't want to be restrictive. Personally, I like Naniwa, and I am sorry if that offends anyone. I've explained my position more than once,very long thread of replies on twitter here:

https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ/status/1559314845723394049

I hope you read it in full, there is also linked in one of the replies, a reddit thread, where I talked about the same "issue" hope that helps clarify my position, even if yours is different and you would act differently.


Thanks for this. I have historically been a fan of Naniwa although I cannot condone some of his behaviour and I certainly disagree with many of his opinions. I hope being in a supportive team environment is beneficial for all involved and I wish nothing but the best for all parties. I was also a bit surprised to see Nani on the roster, but my deep respect for Catz as a team leader reassured me that nothing at ROOT is done without reason. Thanks for the transparency and honesty and as always, ROOT4ROOT.


Thank you I appreciate that, as you can probably see from the twitter thread and here a lot of people are very quick to judge and try to impose their way of treating anyone that seems 'problematic' onto others, it's like the majority believes the best course of action is "everyone should ignore / only talk down/poorly about X person", as someone who is genuinely interested in understanding people of all kinds, this can be very frustrating - so again, really appreciate the vote of confidence / support.
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
Light_VIP
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia108 Posts
September 16 2022 18:56 GMT
#40
On September 12 2022 02:18 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2022 02:16 Light_VIP wrote:
On September 12 2022 01:41 Nakajin wrote:
We have our qualified teams!

- Onsyde Gaming (1)
- Berserker eSport (2)
- LTK (8)
- Cranky Duckling (9)

Pretty bad performance for me, I think I underranked TLK re-thinking about it, the Duckling I really didn't see coming.


How can you not believe in the Ducklings! ;; Honestly I think Dolan, PattyMac and Erik got unlucky in their matches, otherwise they could've each gone on solid runs too ;; Hopefully we can prove that in Code A when we qualify for Code S!


You must'nt take my oppinion too seriously lol

Very happy for y'all though! (+ we get more of your casting!)

\o/ All good, we are just poking fun. We didn't expect to have to qualify for Code S from the Lower bracket ;; we stumbled hard against IG unfortunately. Regardless we made it to Code S!
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