On August 20 2022 16:59 stilt wrote:On August 20 2022 02:30 Charoisaur wrote:On August 20 2022 02:23 stilt wrote:On August 19 2022 21:45 Charoisaur wrote:Nope, IEM Katowice is also a World Championship.
meaning the title Blizzard gives out once a year
By your own definition IEM 2021- now shouldn't count as it's not run by Blizzard
Also copying my responses from the other thread where we had this discussion:
Fair enough I just think it's a bit weird / arbitrary to only call the world championships that are the result of a year-long circuit 'real' world championships. In fact I would argue the IEM qualifier format leads to a more fierce player pool because that makes sure only the most in-form players qualify and not players who were strong in the beginning of the year and then declined but still made it in on points.
Also in many real sports world championships just have a normal qualifier, so it's not like that's a defining feature of a world championship.
I mean it doesn't matter anyways, it's just semantics.
Whether you consider Rogue a 3 time world championship winner or a 1 time world championship winner who has also won 2 other world championship equivalent tournaments which are basically the same in terms of player pool, prestige and prize money and also have 'world championship' in its name but officially aren't 'real' world championships due to arbitrary criteria doesn't make a difference.
It has never been considered a wc until it was endorsed by blizzard as such. At best during the last years of wcs world it was the equivalent of msi in lol but the cash prize, the prod and the overall circuit the audience and the hype were nowhere near the wc world, nice facts distorsion here, it was often two times lower if no more, and when it wasn't in 2019, the difference was 300k k so no, the prize pool isn't "basically the same", as far as prestige, that's nothing more than revisionnism, each wcs was the pinacle of the starcraft years and were presented as such by writers, casters, players and the community.
I begin to understand why rogue fanboys consider him the goat when they literally invent titles. What's the next step now ? Genius was a world champ ? Lol Or let's add wesg as wc after all.
Anyway, glad to learn yoda and ace are world champion, it took 10 years for them to get recognized as such haha I ever remember people bitching about the gsl spot awarded to Ace after his victory because the level/prestige in the tourney was actually too low.
As said before, providence was actually a way bigger tournament at the time.
This is not Rogue fans inventing titles, it's the opposite lol.
This was never a discussion before Rogue started winning them as JJH777 already said, sOs was unanimously called a 3-time-World Champion by basically all of the community, most casters etc. and nobody ever argued against that.
This is just Rogue haters being salty he has won the most of them and trying to discredit him
That was never discussed because that was never considered as such, tell anyone what you're stating in 2019 and they will say bs.
sOs 3 times wc by the community, that's wrong, he was always deemed the two times world champions or the two times blizzcon winners because blizzcon at the time were the wc, the tournament which eclypsed the rest. In almost every intro by the casters, the community it was the two times wc.
Zest wasn't called a wc either btw, none of them were until the end of wcs and when rogue fanboy began to push the narrative he was the goat. Just like his "longevity" which is always brought up while he didn't win a premier before the second half of 2017, Dark being by far the best zerg of lotv until it happened, this one in term of achievements is a super underrated player.
And you obviously didn't adress my points, the prize pool being the more damning but narrative>facts.
Just like a look at the old threads, debates of the then competition or the list of the goat of hots/all time made by stuchiu good luck in finding ppl stating kato=wcs world in it but then again, pointing facts seem pointless.
And before you bring I am a serral fanboy, I consider the goat is Maru, precisely because he actually won a ton during the kespa period even if his lack of actual wc is a asterisk he has the longevity.
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