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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
February 05 2022 07:33 GMT
#61
On February 05 2022 15:27 Abadok wrote:
Honestly think that hero has good chances of winning IEM. I'd give him about 5% to win the whole thing. For reference the person with the highest percentage of winning in my mind is either Serral or Maru, which would be at around 10%


No Rogue?

But I wont bet against herO. He may be the first one from ro36 group to survive until the playoff stage since IEM Katowice 2021.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 06 2022 11:56 GMT
#62
On February 05 2022 15:27 Abadok wrote:
Honestly think that hero has good chances of winning IEM. I'd give him about 5% to win the whole thing. For reference the person with the highest percentage of winning in my mind is either Serral or Maru, which would be at around 10%

lulz, offline Maru on a different continent and vastly different timezone xD
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 06 2022 17:58 GMT
#63
Can't really blame MaxPax, if I was playing protoss I wouldn't want to show my face either
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Mlord
Profile Joined February 2013
France135 Posts
February 06 2022 18:10 GMT
#64
On February 07 2022 02:58 Nerchio wrote:
Can't really blame MaxPax, if I was playing protoss I wouldn't want to show my face either



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pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 08:27:34
February 08 2022 08:26 GMT
#65
TIME and Cyan just announced that they have to withdraw from IEM due to unable to acquire an Poland visa.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25077 Posts
February 08 2022 08:47 GMT
#66
On February 08 2022 17:26 pzlama333 wrote:
TIME and Cyan just announced that they have to withdraw from IEM due to unable to acquire an Poland visa.

That’s a real bummer. Between this and MaxPax not playing I’d almost it rather be online now.
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lamandy93
Profile Joined February 2022
6 Posts
February 08 2022 08:56 GMT
#67
On February 08 2022 17:26 pzlama333 wrote:
TIME and Cyan just announced that they have to withdraw from IEM due to unable to acquire an Poland visa.


This really sucks, not sure how ESL will replace the 2 slots as both players are qualified using China standing, it is impossible to pass the slots to other China player as the same visa issue will kind of just repeat again. Maybe combined standing will be used to replace the 2 slots instead. And then there is another issue on whether the group need to be reshuffle again.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom944 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 08:57:27
February 08 2022 08:56 GMT
#68
On February 07 2022 02:58 Nerchio wrote:
Can't really blame MaxPax, if I was playing protoss I wouldn't want to show my face either

I agree, the constant toxicity towards Protoss players who perform well isn't something I'd want to deal with either.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
February 08 2022 09:17 GMT
#69
On February 08 2022 17:56 lamandy93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2022 17:26 pzlama333 wrote:
TIME and Cyan just announced that they have to withdraw from IEM due to unable to acquire an Poland visa.


This really sucks, not sure how ESL will replace the 2 slots as both players are qualified using China standing, it is impossible to pass the slots to other China player as the same visa issue will kind of just repeat again. Maybe combined standing will be used to replace the 2 slots instead. And then there is another issue on whether the group need to be reshuffle again.


since the deadline for replacing from standings has already passed the rules say the following:
the best (according to global standings) of the RO36 players gets TIMEs Ro24 slot
the ro36 becomes a ro34 (i.e. 2 BYE opponents)

(that all assumes that them not being able to attend gets confirmed^^
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
February 08 2022 11:12 GMT
#70
I never understood this obsession about Maxpax. The guy is super weird and I mean it in a bad way, very unlikeable, 0 social skills, no personality and well, just acts like a jerk from what I saw. Who cares how he looks like or what his issues are? If he does not want to be involved in the scene like a normal person thats his choice just leave him be.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
February 08 2022 11:21 GMT
#71
On February 08 2022 20:12 MarianoSC2 wrote:
I never understood this obsession about Maxpax. The guy is super weird and I mean it in a bad way, very unlikeable, 0 social skills, no personality and well, just acts like a jerk from what I saw. Who cares how he looks like or what his issues are? If he does not want to be involved in the scene like a normal person thats his choice just leave him be.


You're talking about a minor here. Have some empathy please.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4187 Posts
February 08 2022 12:02 GMT
#72
ugh.. ;/
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3356 Posts
February 08 2022 12:16 GMT
#73
On February 08 2022 18:17 hjpalpha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2022 17:56 lamandy93 wrote:
On February 08 2022 17:26 pzlama333 wrote:
TIME and Cyan just announced that they have to withdraw from IEM due to unable to acquire an Poland visa.


This really sucks, not sure how ESL will replace the 2 slots as both players are qualified using China standing, it is impossible to pass the slots to other China player as the same visa issue will kind of just repeat again. Maybe combined standing will be used to replace the 2 slots instead. And then there is another issue on whether the group need to be reshuffle again.


since the deadline for replacing from standings has already passed the rules say the following:
the best (according to global standings) of the RO36 players gets TIMEs Ro24 slot
the ro36 becomes a ro34 (i.e. 2 BYE opponents)

(that all assumes that them not being able to attend gets confirmed^^

Has this happened before, where SC2 players got refused of visa entry into a country? Wonder what the reason is, definitely not Covid-related because China still apply the "Zero Covid" policy within the country, right?
lamandy93
Profile Joined February 2022
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 12:22:37
February 08 2022 12:22 GMT
#74
On February 08 2022 21:16 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2022 18:17 hjpalpha wrote:
On February 08 2022 17:56 lamandy93 wrote:
On February 08 2022 17:26 pzlama333 wrote:
TIME and Cyan just announced that they have to withdraw from IEM due to unable to acquire an Poland visa.


This really sucks, not sure how ESL will replace the 2 slots as both players are qualified using China standing, it is impossible to pass the slots to other China player as the same visa issue will kind of just repeat again. Maybe combined standing will be used to replace the 2 slots instead. And then there is another issue on whether the group need to be reshuffle again.


since the deadline for replacing from standings has already passed the rules say the following:
the best (according to global standings) of the RO36 players gets TIMEs Ro24 slot
the ro36 becomes a ro34 (i.e. 2 BYE opponents)

(that all assumes that them not being able to attend gets confirmed^^

Has this happened before, where SC2 players got refused of visa entry into a country? Wonder what the reason is, definitely not Covid-related because China still apply the "Zero Covid" policy within the country, right?


This is not the first time TIME got rejected for his Poland visa. Back in 2020, TIME was also got rejected for his visa application. Pretty sure there are other Russian who has to forfeit his IEM Ro76 spot few years ago.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 12:40:53
February 08 2022 12:40 GMT
#75
On February 08 2022 21:16 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2022 18:17 hjpalpha wrote:
On February 08 2022 17:56 lamandy93 wrote:
On February 08 2022 17:26 pzlama333 wrote:
TIME and Cyan just announced that they have to withdraw from IEM due to unable to acquire an Poland visa.


This really sucks, not sure how ESL will replace the 2 slots as both players are qualified using China standing, it is impossible to pass the slots to other China player as the same visa issue will kind of just repeat again. Maybe combined standing will be used to replace the 2 slots instead. And then there is another issue on whether the group need to be reshuffle again.


since the deadline for replacing from standings has already passed the rules say the following:
the best (according to global standings) of the RO36 players gets TIMEs Ro24 slot
the ro36 becomes a ro34 (i.e. 2 BYE opponents)

(that all assumes that them not being able to attend gets confirmed^^

Has this happened before, where SC2 players got refused of visa entry into a country? Wonder what the reason is, definitely not Covid-related because China still apply the "Zero Covid" policy within the country, right?


It was the same at Kato 2020, Time and Cyan withdrew, it's a shame that they don't let them play from home, although I get why
There were also some Korean that got denied from time to time back in the day I think.
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CJherOfan
Profile Joined October 2021
35 Posts
February 08 2022 13:21 GMT
#76
I wonder if the issue is on the side of the polish gov't. its sad, I really like time.
I am the world's #1 CJ herO fan
FCHK
Profile Joined August 2020
202 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 13:50:31
February 08 2022 13:28 GMT
#77
On February 08 2022 21:40 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2022 21:16 tigera6 wrote:
On February 08 2022 18:17 hjpalpha wrote:
On February 08 2022 17:56 lamandy93 wrote:
On February 08 2022 17:26 pzlama333 wrote:
TIME and Cyan just announced that they have to withdraw from IEM due to unable to acquire an Poland visa.


This really sucks, not sure how ESL will replace the 2 slots as both players are qualified using China standing, it is impossible to pass the slots to other China player as the same visa issue will kind of just repeat again. Maybe combined standing will be used to replace the 2 slots instead. And then there is another issue on whether the group need to be reshuffle again.


since the deadline for replacing from standings has already passed the rules say the following:
the best (according to global standings) of the RO36 players gets TIMEs Ro24 slot
the ro36 becomes a ro34 (i.e. 2 BYE opponents)

(that all assumes that them not being able to attend gets confirmed^^

Has this happened before, where SC2 players got refused of visa entry into a country? Wonder what the reason is, definitely not Covid-related because China still apply the "Zero Covid" policy within the country, right?


It was the same at Kato 2020, Time and Cyan withdrew, it's a shame that they don't let them play from home, although I get why
There were also some Korean that got denied from time to time back in the day I think.

Due to outbreak of Covid in China

Maybe it has to do with the vaccination they received not being recognized in EU
honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
February 08 2022 13:49 GMT
#78
In other words, Group B will have even fewer EPT points than Group D now. Maybe they'll redraw the groups? Nah they won't do that.
lamandy93
Profile Joined February 2022
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 15:41:46
February 08 2022 15:24 GMT
#79
Right now the Chinese players managed to get in contact with ESL's CEO and ESL have sent a letter to Poland's Ministry of Foreign Affair. Hopefully this could help the Chinese players to resolve their visa issue.
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honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
February 08 2022 17:36 GMT
#80
On February 09 2022 00:24 lamandy93 wrote:
Right now the Chinese players managed to get in contact with ESL's CEO and ESL have sent a letter to Poland's Ministry of Foreign Affair. Hopefully this could help the Chinese players to resolve their visa issue.
[image loading]



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