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DHM Winter Season Finals: Groups Announced
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esReveR
United States568 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
which would make for a pretty sick playoff bracket | ||
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Kitai
United States885 Posts
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tigera6
3515 Posts
On October 27 2021 15:12 Kitai wrote: Each of the groups seems to have 2 very clear favorites. The only players that I wouldn't be surprised to see pulling an upset are Neeb and ShoWTimE. Also Scarlett if Trap has a bad day. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2466 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1359 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33699 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 27 2021 15:12 Kitai wrote: Each of the groups seems to have 2 very clear favorites. The only players that I wouldn't be surprised to see pulling an upset are Neeb and ShoWTimE. Yeah, none of these groups are close between the top 2 and bottom 2, but the players most likely to have an 'its an online tournament' day are probably Trap, Zest, and Maru | ||
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Drahkn
199 Posts
On October 27 2021 22:39 Waxangel wrote: Season Finals groups always seem to play out as a "can Clem overcome TvP?" test :0 Well he clearly can looking at his results against top protosses in the world. Most recent results, October 23rd he won 3-1 over Zest, and most recent October 27th he beat Trap 2-0. Also if you look at his tournament history on liquipedia he is rarely ever knocked out by a Protoss, of almost all his losses in tournaments he gets knocked out by a Terran or a Zerg. Go go Terran agenda hmm?  | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On October 27 2021 22:39 Waxangel wrote: Season Finals groups always seem to play out as a "can Clem overcome TvP?" test :0 It's a dark scheme against him. I sense a power.... screw that, gotta find a high ground  So it appears I am not the one entertained by this  | ||
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tigera6
3515 Posts
On October 28 2021 00:01 Drahkn wrote: Well he clearly can looking at his results against top protosses in the world. Most recent results, October 23rd he won 3-1 over Zest, and most recent October 27th he beat Trap 2-0. Also if you look at his tournament history on liquipedia he is rarely ever knocked out by a Protoss, of almost all his losses in tournaments he gets knocked out by a Terran or a Zerg. Go go Terran agenda hmm? Except that in the last 5-6 premiere global tournament in 2021, Clem is knocked off by Protoss (Zoun in SAHSC, Zest in IEM, Trap in Last Chance, Neeb in DH Summer, Parting in DH Fall). Thats more than the number of time he lost to Terran and Zerg AFAIK. And its not like Clem couldnt win TvP, we all know he is capable of doing that like you just showed. The question is can he do it when it mattered more, aka in bigger tournament. | ||
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Drahkn
199 Posts
On October 28 2021 01:07 tigera6 wrote: Except that in the last 5-6 premiere global tournament in 2021, Clem is knocked off by Protoss (Zoun in SAHSC, Zest in IEM, Trap in Last Chance, Neeb in DH Summer, Parting in DH Fall). Thats more than the number of time he lost to Terran and Zerg AFAIK. And its not like Clem couldnt win TvP, we all know he is capable of doing that like you just showed. The question is can he do it when it mattered more, aka in bigger tournament. Sorry what liquipedia are you reading? Sorry I just must put this in perspective for people, 2020 / 2021 he played 10 premier tournaments, only two of these tournaments did he get knocked out by a protoss, he either won or lost to a Zerg or a Terran. He played 8 Major tournaments 2020 / 2021 he never lost a single one of them to a Protoss and beat Showtime 4-1 in a Finals. Minor tournaments or earlier than 2020 are irrelevant statistics for his TVP. | ||
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tommey.liang
United States363 Posts
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angry_maia
332 Posts
On October 28 2021 02:54 tommey.liang wrote: Pretty stacked groups overall -- wonder who will come out on top. I mean we gotta favor Serral right? He's just looked unstoppable recently. Demolished both Clem and Trap convincingly. I guess ZvZ is his biggest vulnerability right now | ||
Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On October 27 2021 21:38 swarminfestor wrote: I am surprised to see a Pakistani player in the group bracket. He's British with a Pakistani citizenship I think | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
On October 28 2021 04:19 angry_maia wrote: I mean we gotta favor Serral right? He's just looked unstoppable recently. Demolished both Clem and Trap convincingly. I guess ZvZ is his biggest vulnerability right now Clem won their most recent series and I wouldn't call a 3-2 vs Trap demolishing. Trap absolutely could have won their SAHSC series with slightly cleaner play. He also lost 0-3 to Maru last time they played though Serral has obviously improved his ZvT recently. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16089 Posts
On October 28 2021 01:46 Drahkn wrote: Sorry what liquipedia are you reading? Sorry I just must put this in perspective for people, 2020 / 2021 he played 10 premier tournaments, only two of these tournaments did he get knocked out by a protoss, he either won or lost to a Zerg or a Terran. He played 8 Major tournaments 2020 / 2021 he never lost a single one of them to a Protoss and beat Showtime 4-1 in a Finals. Minor tournaments or earlier than 2020 are irrelevant statistics for his TVP. I'm guessing you looked at his liquipedia page where only the tournaments are shown where he made it into the top 4. He played a lot more tournaments then that. What tigera6 says is correct | ||
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tkdalswls
Korea (South)1 Post
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