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Blizzard announce new map pool, changing Oct 19 - Page 4

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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
October 18 2021 21:34 GMT
#61
The new maps seem too much zerg favored.
Other than that, I disagree on the need of a balance patch or maybe a few tweaks, lurkers, ghosts, bink dts can be nerfed but no by much.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 18 2021 22:24 GMT
#62
On October 15 2021 06:56 freelifeffs wrote:
it is so insane to me that people even talk about potentially nerfing zerg when zerg makes up only 19% of the global gm population currently. 19%! that is the lowest a race has ever been since release of sc2. protoss is at 41% btw and terran at 39%. just nuts.

and not that master league is super relevant, but even there zerg is the least represented race.

zerg is dead.

Yeah, until the next WC is Zerg. Again. Hey, zergs are dead, but somehow have the WC title streak for years now. But Zergs are dead. yup. Totally dead.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
October 19 2021 10:16 GMT
#63
On October 19 2021 07:24 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2021 06:56 freelifeffs wrote:
it is so insane to me that people even talk about potentially nerfing zerg when zerg makes up only 19% of the global gm population currently. 19%! that is the lowest a race has ever been since release of sc2. protoss is at 41% btw and terran at 39%. just nuts.

and not that master league is super relevant, but even there zerg is the least represented race.

zerg is dead.

Yeah, until the next WC is Zerg. Again. Hey, zergs are dead, but somehow have the WC title streak for years now. But Zergs are dead. yup. Totally dead.


You misspelled serral like 3 times there
Cereal
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3346 Posts
October 19 2021 10:25 GMT
#64
On October 19 2021 19:16 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2021 07:24 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 15 2021 06:56 freelifeffs wrote:
it is so insane to me that people even talk about potentially nerfing zerg when zerg makes up only 19% of the global gm population currently. 19%! that is the lowest a race has ever been since release of sc2. protoss is at 41% btw and terran at 39%. just nuts.

and not that master league is super relevant, but even there zerg is the least represented race.

zerg is dead.

Yeah, until the next WC is Zerg. Again. Hey, zergs are dead, but somehow have the WC title streak for years now. But Zergs are dead. yup. Totally dead.


You misspelled serral like 3 times there

Well, do you mean Soo, Rogue, Dark and Reynor?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 19 2021 10:59 GMT
#65
Hm, it feels like all of the new maps except Curious minds are super Zerg favored, no?
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 12:59:22
October 19 2021 12:54 GMT
#66
On October 19 2021 19:16 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2021 07:24 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 15 2021 06:56 freelifeffs wrote:
it is so insane to me that people even talk about potentially nerfing zerg when zerg makes up only 19% of the global gm population currently. 19%! that is the lowest a race has ever been since release of sc2. protoss is at 41% btw and terran at 39%. just nuts.

and not that master league is super relevant, but even there zerg is the least represented race.

zerg is dead.

Yeah, until the next WC is Zerg. Again. Hey, zergs are dead, but somehow have the WC title streak for years now. But Zergs are dead. yup. Totally dead.


You misspelled serral like 3 times there

Blizzcon WC titles:
2017 -> Rogue
2018 -> Serral
2019 -> Dark

IEM WC titles:
2017 -> TY (and since then Zergs rule the World Championship)
2018 -> Rogue
2019 -> soO
2020 -> Rogue
2021 -> Reynor

Many people call me a Serral hater. So I am obviously wrong as you can see from this long list which mentions Serral like 3 times. In reality he was in 1 final of the 7 finals. (edit> zerg won finals, otherwise we can enlarge the selection to anger them fanboys)

On October 19 2021 19:59 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Hm, it feels like all of the new maps except Curious minds are super Zerg favored, no?

Didn't check them in the game yet but from the preview pictures it looks like there are plenty chokepoints, should be Terran favored, no? But I didn't give it muhc tthought as I don't watch the SC2 anymore.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3346 Posts
October 19 2021 14:16 GMT
#67
On October 19 2021 19:59 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Hm, it feels like all of the new maps except Curious minds are super Zerg favored, no?

Do you mean the other way around? Because I saw Curious Mind with that triangle 3rd is super open against Zerg attack.I think creep can get all the way to the upper ramp next to the base after 2-3 rounds of spread from Zerg linear 3rd.
Other map seems to be so-so but we have more macro map than rush map IMO, and thats a good thing in general, except for when it comes to PvZ.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
October 19 2021 16:49 GMT
#68
On October 19 2021 19:59 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Hm, it feels like all of the new maps except Curious minds are super Zerg favored, no?


Even curious mind seems to be tbh
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
October 19 2021 17:47 GMT
#69
it's been october 19 pdt for almost 11 hours and no new maps? :o
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
LHK
Profile Joined May 2015
204 Posts
October 19 2021 17:58 GMT
#70
Seem to recall new maps traditionally launching around 9 am CST; it's 1pm CST and no maps / no word :'( BlizzoForgoto?
-Laura
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
October 19 2021 18:06 GMT
#71
Guess someone at Blizzard HQ needs to poke the intern to wake him up to start the update. Either that or he got lost on the way to the bathroom.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
NeuralNet88
Profile Joined June 2021
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 18:25:35
October 19 2021 18:25 GMT
#72
Updated for me to 5.0.8.

Still same maps.
LHK
Profile Joined May 2015
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 19:39:47
October 19 2021 19:39 GMT
#73
New maps are up now! 8 maps in the pool wow Lol
-Laura
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
October 19 2021 19:39 GMT
#74
new maps on NA now. but it's 8 maps and only 3 vetoes so apparently this didnt happen (yet?)

On October 13 2021 13:35 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2021 11:43 tigera6 wrote:
I noticed its 8 maps pool now, so either Beckett will be gone, or it will be weird with the whole map veto/pick process.

Beckett will be gone as well (source: Sinistro from esl)

"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
NeuralNet88
Profile Joined June 2021
22 Posts
October 19 2021 19:43 GMT
#75
Beckett is still there.

Hardwire also does not have the correction that Agaton made to the Reaper cliff.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 19 2021 19:48 GMT
#76
On October 20 2021 04:43 NeuralNet88 wrote:
Beckett is still there.

Hardwire also does not have the correction that Agaton made to the Reaper cliff.

So basically the usual.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 19 2021 20:46 GMT
#77
On October 20 2021 04:39 NonY wrote:
new maps on NA now. but it's 8 maps and only 3 vetoes so apparently this didnt happen (yet?)

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2021 13:35 dbRic1203 wrote:
On October 13 2021 11:43 tigera6 wrote:
I noticed its 8 maps pool now, so either Beckett will be gone, or it will be weird with the whole map veto/pick process.

Beckett will be gone as well (source: Sinistro from esl)


Blizzard doing what Blizzard does, I gues?
MaxPax
Hunta15
Profile Joined April 2014
United States81 Posts
October 19 2021 23:08 GMT
#78
On October 19 2021 07:24 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2021 06:56 freelifeffs wrote:
it is so insane to me that people even talk about potentially nerfing zerg when zerg makes up only 19% of the global gm population currently. 19%! that is the lowest a race has ever been since release of sc2. protoss is at 41% btw and terran at 39%. just nuts.

and not that master league is super relevant, but even there zerg is the least represented race.

zerg is dead.

Yeah, until the next WC is Zerg. Again. Hey, zergs are dead, but somehow have the WC title streak for years now. But Zergs are dead. yup. Totally dead.


Those two statistics are not even comparable to each other, yet here you are. How you came to the conclusion that 19% of GM being Zergs is okay because Zerg has won the WC many years in a row, some that are not even the current balance patch, while entirely ignoring literally every other tournament that happens is beyond me.

tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3346 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-20 03:18:31
October 20 2021 03:18 GMT
#79
On October 20 2021 08:08 Hunta15 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2021 07:24 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 15 2021 06:56 freelifeffs wrote:
it is so insane to me that people even talk about potentially nerfing zerg when zerg makes up only 19% of the global gm population currently. 19%! that is the lowest a race has ever been since release of sc2. protoss is at 41% btw and terran at 39%. just nuts.

and not that master league is super relevant, but even there zerg is the least represented race.

zerg is dead.

Yeah, until the next WC is Zerg. Again. Hey, zergs are dead, but somehow have the WC title streak for years now. But Zergs are dead. yup. Totally dead.


Those two statistics are not even comparable to each other, yet here you are. How you came to the conclusion that 19% of GM being Zergs is okay because Zerg has won the WC many years in a row, some that are not even the current balance patch, while entirely ignoring literally every other tournament that happens is beyond me.


In case you didnt know, game balance are made around the top pro players, many people have said that. So if you are on the ladder rank and cant play like pro, tough luck, time to find a new game, dont expect Blizzard to change game balance for ladder player.
Mannekino
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands15 Posts
October 20 2021 07:01 GMT
#80
On October 13 2021 19:32 BisuDagger wrote:
3v3 and 4v4 maps need more changes.


Agreed, I'm happy there are _some_ changes, but they could switched up the entire pool. Even with older maps, it's been so long and they kept Nekodrec LE which is terrible.
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