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TSL7 - Caster Power Pentagons

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June 25th, 2021 20:55 GMT
Power Pentagons
Totally an original idea

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TSL7: Caster Power Pentagons

by XiaoXiaoo

TeamLiquid StarLeague 7 is underway! TL.net has already presented the completely objective TSL7 Power Rank for the players, but what about our casters? Shouldn’t we share the love(?) with them as well for being our guides through this delightful event?

Without further ado, we present the TSL7 Caster Power Pentagons, a TL.net original, which was definitely not borrowed from the WTL Power Hexagons or anything.

[Editor's note: All opinions in this article belong solely to the writer, and do not represent the views of TL.net. All scorn and criticism should be targeted toward the writer, even regarding the parts that the editor snuck in.]

RotterdaM

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  • Technical Casting - 9
  • Hype - 8
  • Predictions - 6
  • Carriers - 10
  • Talent Scouting - 7

First up is Kevin "(Wiki)RotterdaM" van der Kooi, a name that needs little introduction if you’ve been following StarCraft at any time in the past decade. Well known for his strong support of +2 Carriers and his equally vigorous hatred of Motherships, RotterdaM is a staple of any major StarCraft II event in 2021. But what makes him so lovable?

First is his sheer technical talent at playing the game. Some might say he abuses skytoss being overpowered, others might say he’s winning off of the karma he's built up from all his losing during his poker streams. But the results don’t lie. At 5800 MMR on the EU GM ladder, he’s the highest rated full-time caster we have. Until someone like Lambo converts entirely to casting, Rotti keeps the top dog rating at 9 in technical casting, since we all know higher mmr = better caster, duh.

Despite being one of the most laid back personalities in the scene, RotterdaM still brings a sense of excitement that’s best described as two best friends chatting about a game they love while walking home from school. You can trust RotterdaM to keep it real—no manufactured hype, no over embellishing—just a man who genuinely enjoys watching StarCraft. It might not be quite as hair-raising as Tasteless doing his throaty GGs, but it’s a different kind of hype. An impressive 8 in the hype category for Rotti.

RotterdaM started off great with his TSL7 predictions, accurately forecasting the winner in all eight RO16 matches. However, things have been going downhill for him ever since then, as he’s only managed a 50% accuracy rate in the subsequent rounds of the tournament. While it feels like he's fallen into the trap of over-thinking things and second-guessing himself, he still has one more week to find some clarity and out-predict his fellow casters. 6 is a fair grade for now.

The Carrier is certainly a unit RotterdaM would stand by to the end of time. Doesn’t matter what matchup, Carriers. Doesn’t matter what map, Carriers. Doesn’t matter if they get nerfed or buffed, Carriers. In fact, RotterdaM recently got a Carrier in real life. I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually married a woman named "Carrie R." and had eight kids all named Interceptor.

Scouting up and coming talent is always hard. Some rise explosively like Reynor, while others like TY take nearly a decade to realize their potential. Meanwhile, countless other young prospects never really get to shine on the big stage. RotterdaM has some big hits in seeing future, being at the head of the Serral, Reynor, and Clem hype trains. Meanwhile, we may still have to wait and see with some of his Protoss favorites in MaxPax and Goblin. Whether he has an eye for talent or is just going by his experiences of getting beat up by youngsters who pass him on the ladder, RotterdaM is certainly a good scout and gets a score of 7 in this category.

Wardi

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  • Technical Casting - 7
  • Hype - 7
  • Predictions - 7
  • Tournament Organization - 11
  • Observing - 2

Jonathon "(Wiki)Wardi" Ward is honestly an underrated name today. Having an almost universal presence on Twitch, it’s hard to find a time when he isn’t covering an ongoing event if you live on Earth in a EU friendly timezone. Where we call everyone else a “full-time caster”, Wardi should really be in his own category of “overtime caster”, so it’s great to see him as part of the TSL7 roster.

Technically speaking, Wardi isn’t as much of an expert at the game as some other casters. But through sheer exposure to so many hours of professional StarCraft, he’s accrued more scouting information than an entire KeSPA Proleague team. According to Twitch chat, that makes him at least GM level theoretically, which is in turn, worth a 6.

While people joke that Rotti always looks tired (much to his chagrin), Wardi often is tired. And can you blame him for casting for eight+ hours a day, while producing YouTube content, lining up work for the next day, interacting with his chat and doing the observing for all of his own games? But that’s also why when you see Wardi get excited, you should get excited, because coming from a man who’s been through countless crappy 3-0s, he doesn’t just get excited over nothing. Wardi gets a 7 in the hype category.

Wardi might not be particularly known for his predictive prowess, but it felt unseemly when TLO went out of his way to target him in Week 2 of True or False, forecasting that “Wardi will predict no more than half the matches correctly this weekend.” In reality, Wardi was the caster with the most accurate predictions on the weekend, going 7/10. As for TLO, well, he's gone 0/6 in True or False so far. Wardi gets a respectable 7 for predictions, but a perfect 10 in dumpstering TLO.

I shouldn’t need to explain why Wardi breaks the scale and gets a score of 11 in Event Organization. If you’re curious, just check out his Twitch channel, Youtube, or literally THOUSANDS of Liquipedia pages with “WardiTV” in them.

You can't talk about Wardi without a viewer inevitably complaining about his observing skills, as he occasionally misses key events during a game. But seriously, what do we expect from someone casting everyday for hours non stop, while also managing production, lobby invites, twitch chat and observing? Still, he frequently tries to rewind the game to catch what he missed, and even had the ambition to try and run picture-in-picture, multi-screen observing as a one-man operation. So, let's say…. 2?

ZombieGrub

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  • Technical Casting - 7
  • Hype - 7
  • Predictions - 7
  • Cat Momming - 8
  • Academic Clout - 10

Jessica "(Wiki)ZombieGrub" Chernega is another staple caster in the StarCraft II scene, starting off casting online cups and growing to become a regular fixture in major events. Like Wardi, ZombieGrub is also an underrated, multi-talented individual with pursuits in podcasts, voice acting and blogging in addition to her better known casting role.

Zombie holds a masters degree in Terran, the unequivocal hardest race to play. I’m sure nobody will disagree when I say that a Masters Terran professor (more on that below) deserves at least a technical rating of 7.

One cool thing people might not know about casters is that they often conduct research specifically for each event, and sometimes even each day. ZombieGrub is one of the few who actually publicizes this process by streaming it. Not only does she study the basics like recent performances and rivalries, she also reads TeamLiquid and even /r/starcraft to see what fans are excited about. So yeah, she knows how to get you all hyped, cuz she knows what you’re all excited for! 7 for hype.

ZombieGrub’s prediction game is fairly conservative Like her casting, she likes to base her predictions off of logic and precedent rather than take big swings on hunches or be swayed by the all too powerful influence of the I-changed-my-answer-because-someone-else-stole-my-guess effect. Still, this reserved approach worked wonders for her in week 1 of TSL7, where she had the best prediction accuracy among casters at 87.5%. Still, things didn’t go quite as well for her in week two, as she dropped to 50% accuracy by going 3/6. All the remaining predictions in TSL7 are going to be extremely difficult, so we'll soon see which caster is truly the master of predictions. Until then, ZombieGrub receives a 7 in this category.

Since basically every event is taken online and casters are streaming from the comfort of their homes, unexpected appearances by pets are all too common. With over 50% of her Twitch emotes dedicated to her cats, and with one even called "zgbCatMom," ZombieGrub receives a substantial 8 in the Cat Momming attribute. The only reason it's not higher is that ZombieGrub still manages to keep her cats separate from her role as professional SC2 caster, instead of shamelessly exploiting them for audience approval (mostly, anyway).

While teaching is an element of casting, only ZombieGrub has actually taught a full-blown university course. "Intro to StarCraft" at NYU's Department of Game Design sought to teach students about the design, gameplay, and cultural impact of StarCraft, giving them a better understanding of one of the most important competitive games ever made. Hopefully, ZG's students are now ready to help build the next generation of great RTS games. In any case, we award 10 to Professor Chernega for Academic Clout. [Editor's note: If you would retort "that's not how academia works," we can only respond "shut up, nerd."]

Day[9]

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  • Technical Casting - 4
  • Hype - 8
  • Predictions - 3
  • Laughing - 10
  • Storytelling - 9

Last is guest caster Sean "Day[9]" Plott, whose rare appearances are guaranteed to delight all old school fans of StarCraft. Some fans know him for his Day[9] Dailies, others know him as Tasteless’s younger brother, but everyone knows about his love for StarCraft. Great to see you back Sean, we missed you!

Normally, you would think someone who’s been away from the scene for almost 5 years since his last official StarCraft II cast would be totally out of the loop given how much the game and scene has changed. But Day[9]’s special guest appearances in recent TSL's have proved us wrong—kind of. Sure, there are points where he misreads a situation, or is awed by a move that's mundane to today's pros, but he always recovers gracefully and uses the opportunity to learn. Ultimately, he still has a deep fundamental understanding of RTS games that allows him to adapt rapidly whenever he pops in for a guest appearance. Day[9] receives a 4 for technical casting, which is still quite good for a guest caster.

But let’s be real, technical insight isn’t why we’re so hyped about Day[9]’s cameos in TSL. His fun and outgoing banter is where it’s at. Day[9] doesn’t even need the game to be in a passive state to go on wild tangents that are hilarious for no particular reason. Who knows, we might even hear Sean’s infamous vacuum cleaner make a return during TSL7. Day[9] doesn't need to try to bring any hype, it just seems to come naturally from being himself. 8 is the score here.

Day[9] wasn’t asked to make any official TSL7 predictions, so we’ll have to make an educated guess here. Over the years, Day[9] has spent a lot of time in close proximity to Artosis, be it at old North American Brood War tournaments, or backstage during the height of Wings of Liberty. While the scientific community has yet to reach a clear consensus on this topic, there's an abundance of troubling new research that suggests "caster-cursing" is highly contagious. We can only assume this is the reason Day[9] was omitted from making caster predictions, with TSL7's diligent production staff unwilling to expose the players to any unnecessary risk.

Few things represent Day[9] as well as his laughter. It’s the sound of pure happiness, innocence and silliness that infects everyone around him. Not only is his laugh great, he’s generous with it too. Heck, when Day[9] makes a joke, he himself is almost always the first and loudest one to laugh at it. For anyone else it might be kinda weird, but for Day[9] it’s absolutely adorable thanks to his genuine laugh. We give him a 10 for his signature laugh.

Day[9]’s stories were always the best part of his casts and dailies for me. The fact that he could take any small thing and go on an hour long tangent branching into real life stories always excited me. Now, there may not be as much downtime in-game anymore as we wait for economies to grow, Day[9] might still bless us with a story or two from his time away from SC2. I hope we get to hear some of his extended tangents, like his campfire story from 2010, because he really is an amazing storyteller.





Writer: XiaoXiaoo
Editor: Wax
Images: TeamLiquid
Statistics and records: Liquipedia and Aligulac.com

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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 25 2021 21:11 GMT
#2
A real downgrade from the WTL Power Hexagons since it has less points--should've upgraded to a power heptagon instead.

Having 'literally THOUSANDS' link to results 1-20 of 793 was a nice touch .

Also a 2 is pretty harsh for Wardi's observing--most of the other casters are worse (when they have to do their own observing).
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-25 21:32:36
June 25 2021 21:28 GMT
#3
On June 26 2021 06:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
A real downgrade from the WTL Power Hexagons since it has less points--should've upgraded to a power heptagon instead.

Having 'literally THOUSANDS' link to results 1-20 of 793 was a nice touch .

Also a 2 is pretty harsh for Wardi's observing--most of the other casters are worse (when they have to do their own observing).


what if I told u the numbers are largely made up and not to be taken seriously (except when they should)

anyway nothing will be more egregious than Zest's 10 micro score in WTL
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States830 Posts
June 25 2021 21:44 GMT
#4
I got too worked up over the previous power rating and didn't read properly.

For this one I can say its a travesty ZG only gets an 8 for cat momming compared to the 10 for RotterdaM's carriers. I am surprised Day9 didn't get a 9 hype factor as well. I give this power ranking a four sided pentagram out of five.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-25 21:57:01
June 25 2021 21:54 GMT
#5
That's some A+ article right there, also I don't think I have ever seen "XiaoXiaoo" post an article, and by coincidence it's a caster power ranking, whose hidding under that pen name?

Seriously though, welcome to the team, unless you have in fact been here for years and I'm just stupid.

On June 26 2021 06:28 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2021 06:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
A real downgrade from the WTL Power Hexagons since it has less points--should've upgraded to a power heptagon instead.

Having 'literally THOUSANDS' link to results 1-20 of 793 was a nice touch .

Also a 2 is pretty harsh for Wardi's observing--most of the other casters are worse (when they have to do their own observing).


what if I told u the numbers are largely made up and not to be taken seriously (except when they should)

anyway nothing will be more egregious than Zest's 10 micro score in WTL


Look at that noob who can't see the different between an 7/10 defense and an 8/10 defense
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ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States695 Posts
June 25 2021 21:54 GMT
#6
On June 26 2021 06:44 Husyelt wrote:
I got too worked up over the previous power rating and didn't read properly.

For this one I can say its a travesty ZG only gets an 8 for cat momming compared to the 10 for RotterdaM's carriers. I am surprised Day9 didn't get a 9 hype factor as well. I give this power ranking a four sided pentagram out of five.


I must agree, but the point about me not exploiting them shamelessly is correct.

Overall I give this a 10 on the accuracy pentagon.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 25 2021 22:38 GMT
#7
On June 26 2021 06:28 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2021 06:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
A real downgrade from the WTL Power Hexagons since it has less points--should've upgraded to a power heptagon instead.

Having 'literally THOUSANDS' link to results 1-20 of 793 was a nice touch .

Also a 2 is pretty harsh for Wardi's observing--most of the other casters are worse (when they have to do their own observing).


what if I told u the numbers are largely made up and not to be taken seriously (except when they should)

anyway nothing will be more egregious than Zest's 10 micro score in WTL


You mean taking power ranks and power polygons overly seriously isn't the entire point of them???
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
June 25 2021 23:14 GMT
#8
I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually married a woman named "Carrie R." and had eight kids all named Interceptor.


hahaha thats a good one, nice job
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
June 25 2021 23:50 GMT
#9
I know these are fun, but wardi has amazing technical casting on tournaments run by him. Just wanted to make sure he feels the love from fans if he reads this.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 02:38:47
June 26 2021 02:38 GMT
#10
On June 26 2021 08:50 BisuDagger wrote:
I know these are fun, but wardi has amazing technical casting on tournaments run by him. Just wanted to make sure he feels the love from fans if he reads this.

Let's see "Bisudagger's not-shitty shapes that are way better than TL's" then
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France655 Posts
June 26 2021 05:54 GMT
#11
On June 26 2021 08:14 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually married a woman named "Carrie R." and had eight kids all named Interceptor.


hahaha thats a good one, nice job

That is very old-school thinking

In modern times she would already have four children when they marry, and they would have four more together
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
June 26 2021 06:13 GMT
#12
This was a fun read. Nice one!
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 09:29:23
June 26 2021 09:28 GMT
#13
On June 26 2021 08:50 BisuDagger wrote:
I'm real happy for you Wax and Imma let you finish, but Wardi has some of the best technical casting OF ALL TIME.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
June 26 2021 10:08 GMT
#14
wardiii is 10/10 in my heart
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
June 26 2021 10:24 GMT
#15
On June 26 2021 11:38 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2021 08:50 BisuDagger wrote:
I know these are fun, but wardi has amazing technical casting on tournaments run by him. Just wanted to make sure he feels the love from fans if he reads this.

Let's see "Bisudagger's not-shitty shapes that are way better than TL's" then

We’re on the same team, so I too am responsible for these shitty shapes. Speaking of, if you’d like to draw more shapes, I have a connect the dot Bisu face puzzle in my 10k blog plus other puzzles for those looking for more fun.

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solution:
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Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France655 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 11:48:07
June 26 2021 10:31 GMT
#16
I hereby present to you, XiaoXiaoo's Power Pentagons' Power Pentagon !

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Racial balance: featuring two Terrans, one Protoss and one Random, racial balance is decent, without being exceptional. I'll give it a 6.

Number of sides: 5.

Accuracy: although such a dangerous exercise as power pentagons is always risky, I feel confident with most of what was stated. A well-deserved 8.

Seriousness: despite claims that not every number should be taken seriously, the pentagons were ostensibly drawn with a tool other than Paint, automatically making them professional-level-serious. Anything below 9 would be an insult.

Purple strength: measured at 9346C2 out of FFFFFF, we score 5.7 out of 10 in a more user-friendly decimal scale. In retrospect, that rating does not properly reflect how strong the purple was. However, moving a line in Paint is too much of a chore for me to retract any rating.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 10:52:06
June 26 2021 10:51 GMT
#17
What a beautiful thread.

I do feel that 2-dimensional pentagons are rather underwhelming, this is, after all, 2021. Another dimension or two more would be welcome.
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XiaoXiaoo
Profile Joined October 2012
Switzerland20 Posts
June 26 2021 11:02 GMT
#18
All scorn and criticism should be targeted toward the writer, even regarding the parts that the editor snuck in.


Gimme your worst!

On a slightly more serious note, I had to exaggerate the lower ratings since every caster analyzed is like super top tier, otherwise it would've just looked like mostly normal pentagons with 8+'s across the board.

Enjoy the last week of TSL7 yall
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
710 Posts
June 26 2021 11:54 GMT
#19
there's an extra ' at the end of the link to ZG's uni course producing an error, should be
full-blown university course

otherwise, great content
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Executer08
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany163 Posts
June 26 2021 13:05 GMT
#20
On June 26 2021 06:44 Husyelt wrote:
I got too worked up over the previous power rating and didn't read properly.

For this one I can say its a travesty ZG only gets an 8 for cat momming compared to the 10 for RotterdaM's carriers. I am surprised Day9 didn't get a 9 hype factor as well. I give this power ranking a four sided pentagram out of five.


Rotti is relentless when it comes to carriers and especially air upgrades. ZG isnt as overbearing in terms of cat momming, so i think 8/10 is the more "healthy" grade while 10/10 means Rotti is a crazy carrier guy :^)
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