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EndlessViolence
Profile Joined January 2011
115 Posts
August 17 2020 08:58 GMT
#21
fantastic player , will be missed
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1863 Posts
August 17 2020 09:04 GMT
#22
never forget his Royal Road.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
August 17 2020 09:06 GMT
#23
GG
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 17 2020 09:06 GMT
#24
On August 17 2020 17:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh no, this is two years too early. Sad to see him go but you can understand why he would call it quits now - the Dear skill graph has become inaccurate as of late.

Losing Classic and herO last year, and then Dear, Stats, and Zest this year. Welp.

Welp indeed. Hopefully the remaining Protoss can step it up.

It's hard to watch this skill drain of Korean SC2 (not just Protoss) even though we knew it was coming.
The gap is closing yay :/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
August 17 2020 09:06 GMT
#25
On August 17 2020 17:50 120720 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 17:06 dbRic1203 wrote:
On August 17 2020 17:03 deacon.frost wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:45 darklycid wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 17 2020 16:38 darklycid wrote:
which Kr toss am i gonna fanboi for now, Stats and dear will be gone.


All aboard the Zest and Trap trains.

Shouldn't Zest also be gone soon at His age, or can he push it back some more?

Then hope Parting goes into his old beast mode or sOs finds his mojo.

I Don t realy see SOS doing well anytime soon
Trapand PartinG it is for now..
Any Protoss coming back from militarry anytime soon?


Should we announce a 100k tournament?

Doesn't look like it works anymore
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
August 17 2020 09:38 GMT
#26
This sucks. I did have a bad feeling Dear was gonna retire when he didn't join a new team after leaving KZ.

Dear is probably a top 10 protoss of all time and even if he hasn't been playing at his former level for a while, he's still one of the few toss players capable of making ro16 and even ro8 in Code S. With him gone and Zest and Stats presumably going to the military soon too, there will only be 3 relevant protosses in Korea...
MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
August 17 2020 09:48 GMT
#27
barely any pros left for korean sc2
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 17 2020 10:53 GMT
#28
Thank you for all the great games and all the best for the future!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26255 Posts
August 17 2020 11:42 GMT
#29
Aw man
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-17 11:45:44
August 17 2020 11:44 GMT
#30
Mandatory military service has decimated the korean protoss scene. How soon until stats zest follows the likes of classic, hero, and dear? They're both 28.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
August 17 2020 11:53 GMT
#31
Nooo...damn you Military!!
~~(,,ºº>
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4960 Posts
August 17 2020 11:54 GMT
#32
Sad to see him go, hope he comes back after his military though. GGs forever Dear.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
August 17 2020 12:05 GMT
#33
man im getting so depressed over the state of the korean scene, really sad to see.

I remember rooting for Dears royal road and always liked his play. good luck in the army I guess
~~~~~
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
August 17 2020 12:18 GMT
#34
oh dear!
How may help u?
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
August 17 2020 12:30 GMT
#35
Not an easy time for this old STX Soul fan. With Classic and Dear gone, there's only Trap and Innovation left.
Mendici sumus. Hoc est verum. | I don't mind straight people, as long as they act gay in public. | Es ist keine Tugend edel geboren werden, sondern sich edel machen | οἶδα οὐκ εἰδώς
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 17 2020 12:36 GMT
#36
On August 17 2020 18:06 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 17:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh no, this is two years too early. Sad to see him go but you can understand why he would call it quits now - the Dear skill graph has become inaccurate as of late.

Losing Classic and herO last year, and then Dear, Stats, and Zest this year. Welp.

Welp indeed. Hopefully the remaining Protoss can step it up.

It's hard to watch this skill drain of Korean SC2 (not just Protoss) even though we knew it was coming.
The gap is closing yay :/


Yea, and it's even harder when they go earlier than they need to. Dear could have played for two more years.

Still, I guess we just have to accept that this is the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. In a sense there is no use in getting depressed every time a player retires when we can already see it coming.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
August 17 2020 12:44 GMT
#37
The way he putted words doesn't feel like he will be back for progaming after the service.
:3
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
August 17 2020 12:50 GMT
#38
On August 17 2020 21:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 18:06 Penev wrote:
On August 17 2020 17:41 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh no, this is two years too early. Sad to see him go but you can understand why he would call it quits now - the Dear skill graph has become inaccurate as of late.

Losing Classic and herO last year, and then Dear, Stats, and Zest this year. Welp.

Welp indeed. Hopefully the remaining Protoss can step it up.

It's hard to watch this skill drain of Korean SC2 (not just Protoss) even though we knew it was coming.
The gap is closing yay :/


Yea, and it's even harder when they go earlier than they need to. Dear could have played for two more years.

Still, I guess we just have to accept that this is the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. In a sense there is no use in getting depressed every time a player retires when we can already see it coming.

Maybe it is related to his health issues he had recently? Anyways really sad
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
August 17 2020 13:04 GMT
#39
Wish Dear all the best! He had some periods of beast mode, sadly mouz did ruin that and Dear never really got his old magic back after that.

In regards to a possible return, I think most players going to military service retire without a plan for going back, The decision to make a come back or return to the scene in some other role is something that only be made after knowing the state of the scene and seeing if you can regain top GM form after release.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
August 17 2020 13:19 GMT
#40
Dear - the protoss who showed for a first time some top macro toss gameplay back in 2013. Especially his PvT is legendary for its time and incredibly scary. I saw glimpses of a long macro games earlier by Seed and Liquid Hero for a first time, but Dear was the first who clearly showed the future of the protoss players who later dominated especially in Korea. Rain of course did the same but back then Dear was beating everybody for a period of 4 months until Jaedong stopped him at Blizzcon. What Dear actually started, Zest later turned it into doctrine.
And also Dear was three times semi-finalist in Code S in a row which is still a great achievement of consistency. That happened in the end of 2015 and the whole 2016.
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
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