EPTRedeye Steps Down From esports - Page 2
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dbRic1203
Germany958 Posts
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raff100
484 Posts
On June 30 2020 02:32 Big-t wrote: Ah, I didn't mean punching someone is an adult way of problem solving. I think it is very good that he lost his job for this behavior. What I meant was the way on how this happend. Involving his family and even kids (how old are they? If they are underaged this is beyond not OK) is too much imo. Pointing out that he did something wrong was the right move, but I think if the people who got him into nearly suicide and harassed his famaily get away with this, it would send the wrong message to further similar situations. However I have no suggestion on what to do... From what I understand, noone harassed his family. It was his family that brought him to court for phisical abuses. This is what Banks reported at least. | ||
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Big-t
Austria1318 Posts
On June 30 2020 02:39 raff100 wrote: From what I understand, noone harassed his family. It was his family that brought him to court for phisical abuses. This is what Banks reported at least. Oh Ok, then sorry for the fake news :/ | ||
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Kitai
United States581 Posts
On June 30 2020 02:39 raff100 wrote: From what I understand, noone harassed his family. It was his family that brought him to court for phisical abuses. This is what Banks reported at least. Even so, it's hard to say if the family would want to be thrust in the public spotlight like this - they may just want to live their lives in peace and leave the past in the past. Hard to say what they want without actually knowing them or them telling us what they want. | ||
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ploguidice
United States205 Posts
On June 30 2020 02:42 Kitai wrote: Even so, it's hard to say if the family would want to be thrust in the public spotlight like this - they may just want to live their lives in peace and leave the past in the past. Hard to say what they want without actually knowing them or them telling us what they want. Are they being thrust into the public spotlight about this? Like yes the story of alleged abuse is being shared, but afaik no one is sharing their names, ages, whereabouts, or basically any information beyond their relationship to Redeye and the crime he committed against them. | ||
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Kitai
United States581 Posts
On June 30 2020 02:48 ploguidice wrote: Are they being thrust into the public spotlight about this? Like yes the story of alleged abuse is being shared, but afaik no one is sharing their names, ages, whereabouts, or basically any information beyond their relationship to Redeye and the crime he committed against them. Well, they probably know that thousands more people know about the case now, even if their personal info hasn't been floated. | ||
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raff100
484 Posts
Anyway, Redeye showed his violent personality and I feel bad for all the people who were abused at work because of the acceptance of such behaviors. People need to understand how hard is for someone who is not in the economical position or just too peaceful to fight back and give the bully a lesson. It's the coworkers who should have taken the part of the victims and fire the bully from the company. | ||
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DSh1
286 Posts
On June 30 2020 02:22 Nakajin wrote: I think we can all agree a twitter shitstorm is not the best way for this to have gone down, but considering it seems to have gone on for years without repercussion, maybe it was the only way. Very much agree with that. Certainly, didn't seem very pretty, in the way that Bank's conducted the revelation. But then, if the accusations are true, then I also don't know how else it could be done. Leaves an uncomfortable feeling though the way it was done. On June 30 2020 02:39 dbRic1203 wrote: I think stepping down is probably the best thing he could do at this point to prevent further damage against himselfe, his family, the company and the community. Respect for his level headed response and not dragging down other people in the mud with him. | ||
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desuduesdeus
Germany13 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States38804 Posts
There's more information about him and the people who have spoken out against him and corroborated the allegations in the appropriate harassment/abuse thread. | ||
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aringadingding
331 Posts
On June 30 2020 03:50 desuduesdeus wrote: I think this was handled exactly as cases like this should be handled. How can you agree that abuse of power-like behaviour should be stopped but feel bad when it's done via the victims speaking out about it? There's some kind of mental disconnect that I can't wrap my mind around. Feel free to help me understand if you will. Veery good question. Good point. | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5498 Posts
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lechatnoir
229 Posts
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Wombat_NI
Northern Ireland13332 Posts
On June 30 2020 04:08 sparklyresidue wrote: Never understood fully why people were so enamored with the man, but that's irrelevant to what's happened here. Although concrete evidence may not exist, why suddenly retire if these allegations have no backing? Most people are able to work and not have allegations of assault made against them, so his reactions definitely make him seem guilty. My best guess on the matter is that others in the industry covered for his behaviour, and now there’s cracks in the dam they/Redeye decided to avert a more wide-ranging and costly scandal. Just my 2 cents. If that or something like were not the case, Redeye could easily take a break from the scene, get anger management counselling or whatever, and presumably re-enter the scene at some later juncture. | ||
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kramvti
27 Posts
Things that happen at a place of business should be handled by the business, and an authorities needed to resolve it. It sure as hell shouldn't be spewn everywhere where there is effectively no discourse to even be had. Twitter is a mob, they will not stop until whomever is brought down they want, rightly or wrongly. Talking about court cases that have to do with family is just pathetic. It is none of any of your gd business what happens in his home life. none. zero. zilch. nada. If the allegations turn out to hold water then, yes he needs to step away. I know someone that punched a guy at work...does that mean he should be banished from life as well? Oh does it matter that the guy spewed shit in his face for 5 min before he finally lost his temper, or is belligerently instigating a fight, then getting one enough to shitcan the one that threw the punch? I bring this up because the context of the alleged altercation is very sketchy, and not qualified in the least. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10083 Posts
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Wombat_NI
Northern Ireland13332 Posts
On June 30 2020 04:19 kramvti wrote: Things that happen at a place of business should be handled by the business, and an authorities needed to resolve it. It sure as hell shouldn't be spewn everywhere where there is effectively no discourse to even be had. Twitter is a mob, they will not stop until whomever is brought down they want, rightly or wrongly. Talking about court cases that have to do with family is just pathetic. It is none of any of your gd business what happens in his home life. none. zero. zilch. nada. If the allegations turn out to hold water then, yes he needs to step away. I know someone that punched a guy at work...does that mean he should be banished from life as well? Oh does it matter that the guy spewed shit in his face for 5 min before he finally lost his temper, or is belligerently instigating a fight, then getting one enough to shitcan the one that threw the punch? I bring this up because the context of the alleged altercation is very sketchy, and not qualified in the least. Who are the authorities who intervene in these particular scenarios? eSports hasn’t quite hit the level of maturation that other industries have, you don’t have unions, human resource departments etc that internally can arbitrate in such disputes. You only have to look at the other big accusations within the DoTA scene where managers etc were made aware of allegations and covered for the accused. | ||
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ZergX
France435 Posts
On June 30 2020 01:40 freelifeffs wrote: disgusting times we live in where keyboard social justice warriors are mass ruining peoples lives via twitter. Amen to that man ! : / so fcking sadly true | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France21330 Posts
I'm not sure this will quite be the popular opinion, but I agree so much. Just try to set things right without exposing it this way, go to courts, I don't know. Those twitter hanging courts disgust me. | ||
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Nevuk
United States4673 Posts
https://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/560825-redeye-steps-away-from-esports-amid-accusations ) The most important one is probably this, which is that the person he punched came forward publicly. Was apparently 3 punches, not something minor. | ||
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