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SpaWnvERtiGO
110 Posts
Like it baffles me people dont get why Maru proxied so much.... Or why he was such a master with Banshees, and now they arnt as viable.... widow mines no longer cloaking, the changed cyclone.... There arnt as many opportunities to micro like that anymore.. | ||
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SpaWnvERtiGO
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Harris1st
Germany6914 Posts
Or do you enjoy monologues that much?  | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On March 03 2020 18:31 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote: First off, naming Morrow is like naming Idra as a top Zerg, 2010 play doesn't really cut it in 2020. Jesus, are you talking about the 5 rax reapers, like the reapers that had the grenades bonus on buildings? Come on man... First off I wasn't the one mentioning Morrow, why are arguing with me, hell can't you read what you are answering to before being rude. Frst you ask who Morrow even is and then after googling you go on to try and educate ME on the subject when just a day earlier knew nothing about him. Seriously if you are are ignorant about that era of starcraft 2 that is fine, do you seriously believe you know more than everyone else after reading a liquiepdia page. Special? For micro? Hes not even Uthermal, like ....what? He has great builds and macro, always has since he was sixjax Major and number 1 GM NA. But a micro god, no.... . So for someone to wow you with micro they need to be a micro god, yeah I'm not surprised there aren't many that wow you with micro if that is definition of impressing you. Being the best in the world. And come on, we all watch the SAME games. Until Maru beat Serral in those late game raven fest, TY was considered to have the best Terran late game and army control, Ghumiho the best builds, Maru was the most decisive, great micro combined with great tempo play, when Banshees were still viable.... Inno was the Macro beast..... Maru was like 9s in all categories, Byun was definitely a 10 on micro... Byun was the first player I saw that actually made banelings look like they wernt even a viable unit prelair.... You are simplifying things way too much, each terran doesn't have their own "gimmick" and that is okay. I disagree with you that Maru had worse late game army control than TY and that is fine, we can have different opinions without anyone of use being wrong. Chill man | ||
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KarlSiegt
Italy35 Posts
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Poopi
France12794 Posts
History repeats itself, Serral tried to counter Zest passively, trying to defend properly and stuff, "play it safe" as Rogue said, whereas Rogue didn't try any of that and killed Zest earlier. Granted Rogue had a bit of time to prepare for Zest, but I don't doubt he could have done that on the fly during the series if he was facing Zest in the ro4 instead of Serral. Serral could be even scarier if he managed to play like that, and he would fare better if the meta happened not to favor zerg. As for Rogue, I can't even count now the number of times he has come back from being on the verge of losing a bo5 against top terrans :x. Truly impressive yet saddening for us terrans fans | ||
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StaleTosis
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SpaWnvERtiGO
110 Posts
On March 03 2020 20:06 Shuffleblade wrote: First off I wasn't the one mentioning Morrow, why are arguing with me, hell can't you read what you are answering to before being rude. Frst you ask who Morrow even is and then after googling you go on to try and educate ME on the subject when just a day earlier knew nothing about him. Seriously if you are are ignorant about that era of starcraft 2 that is fine, do you seriously believe you know more than everyone else after reading a liquiepdia page. So for someone to wow you with micro they need to be a micro god, yeah I'm not surprised there aren't many that wow you with micro if that is definition of impressing you. Being the best in the world. You are simplifying things way too much, each terran doesn't have their own "gimmick" and that is okay. I disagree with you that Maru had worse late game army control than TY and that is fine, we can have different opinions without anyone of use being wrong. Chill man To be honest, I didnt google shit.... I've been a Starcraft fan since it came out in the 90s. I mean, Morrow? That's like me naming STC as a Top Terran, and no I didnt need to google that.... Everyone should remember sixjax Major, ( didnt need to google that either..) one of my favorites to watch, will never forget him owning Spanishiwa on stream and calling him bad. But known for Terran micro? Hes known for being TYs son..... | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25099 Posts
On March 06 2020 12:53 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote: To be honest, I didnt google shit.... I've been a Starcraft fan since it came out in the 90s. I mean, Morrow? That's like me naming STC as a Top Terran, and no I didnt need to google that.... Everyone should remember sixjax Major, ( didnt need to google that either..) one of my favorites to watch, will never forget him owning Spanishiwa on stream and calling him bad. But known for Terran micro? Hes known for being TYs son..... Nobody named Morrow in the context of great players or micro gods, the statement was ‘nobody else has single-handedly got a unit nerfed’, to which he was a response. | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States677 Posts
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SpaWnvERtiGO
110 Posts
All the hate for Byun cause he was good at reapers, which was a BLAST to watch..... I watched Maru go 7 rax reapers vs sOO in a gsl game and get owned.. its 4 years later and pitiful ass noobs STILL complaining about 3 rax reaper, like he didn't win GSL and Blizzcon back to back... Maru won ONE tournament with late game mass Raven, and they nerfed it to death, now Terran has no late game splash, hence NO LATE GAME.... You know we lost Guhmiho, the scene needs Byun back, needs Dream to regain that killer form..... With Byun, It's like people forgot Tankevacs were even a thing..... I watched Rogue beat back hellbat all ins with nothing but Queens, but the Bum ass Zergs cant handle reapers... Didnt uthermal go like, 14 rax reapers vs someone, like a pro? lol, Why not do it at IEM then? User was warned for this post. | ||
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Obamarauder
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NinjaNight
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StaleTosis
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
On March 06 2020 12:53 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote: To be honest, I didnt google shit.... I've been a Starcraft fan since it came out in the 90s. I mean, Morrow? That's like me naming STC as a Top Terran, and no I didnt need to google that.... Everyone should remember sixjax Major, ( didnt need to google that either..) one of my favorites to watch, will never forget him owning Spanishiwa on stream and calling him bad. But known for Terran micro? Hes known for being TYs son..... I would argue that Maru had better control of late game units then TY any day of the week, he always had better ghost control and raven control. i just think TY had better unit positioning and was way better at getting to the late game he usually went for less harrasment and powered up faster. watching Maru at 200 200 supply with a legit army comp is kinda terrifying. | ||
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Sixshot
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Sixshot
2 Posts
On March 11 2020 12:32 StaleTosis wrote: Serral is too predictable.. Serral wasn't that predictable in 2018. He can do all kind of strats. While in 2019, in his last game with Raynor, he couldn't finish out Raynor despite the huge mid game advatange he gained via mutas.Where dark clearly showed that muta is viable in zvz against roach into hydra lurker playstyle. | ||
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SpaWnvERtiGO
110 Posts
On March 11 2020 19:37 Sixshot wrote: So apperantly people nowadays doesn't take Byun's devastating wrist injury into consideration when they talk about micro lul. Apperantly Byun may never be able to recover to the point he should in 2016, but at that time it would be simply foolish to consider anyone else has a better micro. This... It's like they forget Byun won GSL during the twilight of the Kespa era, when these guys were stomping the whole world still.... | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On March 11 2020 19:37 Sixshot wrote: So apperantly people nowadays doesn't take Byun's devastating wrist injury into consideration when they talk about micro lul. Apperantly Byun may never be able to recover to the point he should in 2016, but at that time it would be simply foolish to consider anyone else has a better micro. Pretty much every terran has broken wrist, and Byun also had 3 and a half years of full time progaming he was between pretty good and just ok before taking his break. And he had pretty much a whole year in 2017 when he was still very active and had good results but he never climbed back to the level of his end of the year. For some reason when talking about Byun everyone always only talk about 2016 like if he was just a new guy comming out of nowhere destroying everyone then disapearing into the sunset and we were left only wondering what could have been. It's not like anyone talk about ByuN 2010-2013 micro, not that there's anything I can say about it. | ||
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SpaWnvERtiGO
110 Posts
On March 13 2020 23:21 Nakajin wrote: Pretty much every terran has broken wrist, and Byun also had 3 and a half years of full time progaming he was between pretty good and just ok before taking his break. And he had pretty much a whole year in 2017 when he was still very active and had good results but he never climbed back to the level of his end of the year. For some reason when talking about Byun everyone always only talk about 2016 like if he was just a new guy comming out of nowhere destroying everyone then disapearing into the sunset and we were left only wondering what could have been. It's not like anyone talk about ByuN 2010-2013 micro, not that there's anything I can say about it. 2010- 2013? You are grasping now.... are you talking about when the game first came out? Like roaches cant hit a bunker on a ramp in 2010? That era? Lmao, all the Top Terran pros said Byun had the best micro, and here you guys are caping for Morrow from 2010? Why are you guys arguing so hard against some shit that was common knowledge? The Kespa guys were the best then, at basically everything... how you even bring up a foreigner for being the best at ANYTHING then is kinda crazy.... Also, Artosis had said this many times.... MANY GSL champions, I believe even including Rogue, got k locked out Round of 32 the NEXT season.... Byun made this game fun to watch.... you guys should welcome him back with open arms...... | ||
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