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ESL Pro Tour rulebook released; new info on GSL?

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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-20 15:58:06
February 20 2020 15:57 GMT
#20
On February 21 2020 00:51 CreightonOlsen wrote:
If they bring back Code A five months after I leave Seoul, I will be equal parts ecstatic and heartbroken. I would totally move back for that though...


You can be our new Code A casting baldman ! Khaldor 2.0

Edit: elentos's too fast for me.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
February 20 2020 16:06 GMT
#21
One part of me is highly amused that even a big company like ESL will release a document that's an 8 page PDF where the last page is entirely empty.

If this is really the comeback of Code A, I wonder if this'll end up making the Korean scene look more stagnant than the way it's been until now.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25995 Posts
February 20 2020 16:21 GMT
#22
On February 21 2020 01:06 Elentos wrote:
One part of me is highly amused that even a big company like ESL will release a document that's an 8 page PDF where the last page is entirely empty.

If this is really the comeback of Code A, I wonder if this'll end up making the Korean scene look more stagnant than the way it's been until now.

Invisible ink bro.
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CreightonOlsen
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
United States366 Posts
February 20 2020 17:03 GMT
#23
On February 21 2020 00:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2020 00:51 CreightonOlsen wrote:
If they bring back Code A five months after I leave Seoul, I will be equal parts ecstatic and heartbroken. I would totally move back for that though...

Trying to become the next Khaldor now, Creighton?


I gotta hit the gym if I wanna be like Khaldor. But seriously - after covering the GSL qualifiers last season, I was hoping to do the same again this year. Looks like there may be a shakeup though! Excited to see what the announcement is!
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 20 2020 18:09 GMT
#24
Now i hope this means code a, in a pessimistic worldview this just means points for people in the code s qualifiers though.
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
February 20 2020 18:52 GMT
#25
Do you expect this #17-52 part to be played offline? Or better: couldn’t this just be an online portion to reduce the time they need a studio for?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 20 2020 19:12 GMT
#26
They probably should have announced all this stuff at least a month ago. Those weekly cup points are a lot more significant with how few points are being given out. Yes, more people qualify to IEM Katowice in 2021 than did past WCS Global Finals, but I feel like there is not going to be a huge difference in terms of points for the people on the cusp.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-20 19:24:54
February 20 2020 19:19 GMT
#27
On February 21 2020 03:52 Swisslink wrote:
Do you expect this #17-52 part to be played offline? Or better: couldn’t this just be an online portion to reduce the time they need a studio for?

Well it's their studio to begin with, better to use it. And I don't think they'll move away from having every part of GSL played offline. Doesn't feel right. Plus if this is in any way meant to create some sort of growth, it'd be good for the less experienced players to get some stage experience. Don't want one of those guys to reach the Ro16 and then just implode when there's a camera on them.

And if you want to assume the worst in people, playing offline also means they can't cheat to win.
On February 21 2020 04:12 Boggyb wrote:
They probably should have announced all this stuff at least a month ago. Those weekly cup points are a lot more significant with how few points are being given out. Yes, more people qualify to IEM Katowice in 2021 than did past WCS Global Finals, but I feel like there is not going to be a huge difference in terms of points for the people on the cusp.

Given that they knew about the format changes, I think it's safe to assume the players also knew about the shift in point distribution. I think at least some of the players the cups will end up relevant for are already playing in them. At the end of the day though, it's 5 cup wins to make up the difference between Code S and (presumably) Code A. You need to win 45 cups to equal a Code S Ro4. So at the end of the day, some players can still be relatively comfortable even if they only perform well in 1 season of GSL.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 20 2020 20:22 GMT
#28
Hurray for Code A!
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seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
393 Posts
February 20 2020 22:25 GMT
#29
I don't remember where I heard it, but I'm pretty sure someone notable said that GSL will have a new studio this year.
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
February 21 2020 02:59 GMT
#30
Korean scene is real poor now...Korean love BW more.
Hope it will be better.
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1701 Posts
February 21 2020 03:57 GMT
#31
Need 32 in Code S

Code A level of play is a lot lower and wont attract as many viewers
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 21 2020 07:26 GMT
#32
On February 21 2020 12:57 ShowTheLights wrote:
Need 32 in Code S

Code A level of play is a lot lower and wont attract as many viewers

The Level of play isn t affected by the Name the Tournament has, just saying.
MaxPax
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 21 2020 18:30 GMT
#33
On February 21 2020 12:57 ShowTheLights wrote:
Need 32 in Code S

Code A level of play is a lot lower and wont attract as many viewers

you don't need 32 in Code S and I think these new numbers do a better job of making Code S actually prestigious while giving everyone else a chance to qualify.

Before it really seemed like 32 of the 40ish potential players in Korea were making it every season and leaving just a handful out. Now basically everyone good will get in and leave some room for some up-and-comers if they exist anymore
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
February 21 2020 19:53 GMT
#34
On February 20 2020 20:49 Ziggy wrote:
they just need to make sure to install booths in their new jamsildong studio and we're back in 2011 boys yay!

gstl next please


While somehow getting EGTL back in it as well.
Cereal
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 21 2020 19:58 GMT
#35
On February 22 2020 04:53 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2020 20:49 Ziggy wrote:
they just need to make sure to install booths in their new jamsildong studio and we're back in 2011 boys yay!

gstl next please


While somehow getting EGTL back in it as well.


dream big
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
February 21 2020 21:43 GMT
#36
On February 21 2020 00:46 ThunderJunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2020 00:07 digmouse wrote:
#BringbackWolfdor


Yesssss


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Werwolf
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation31 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-25 23:46:45
February 25 2020 23:46 GMT
#37
Still no official GSL anouncement ...
A year ago by this time 1st group stage had already been completed
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
February 25 2020 23:56 GMT
#38
Considering the Coronavirus situation and the delay of the GSL Super Tournament, Season 1 probably won't start until April at the earliest.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 26 2020 10:15 GMT
#39
Also this Season ends in exactly one year with Katowice 2021, so there is plenty of time
MaxPax
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