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2019 Global Finals Playoffs: Bracket Predictions

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2019 Global Finals Playoffs: Bracket Predictions

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October 30th, 2019 10:17 GMT

2019 WCS Global Finals
Playoff Bracket Predictions

Sixteen players entered the group stages in Seoul, South Korea, but only eight have survived to continue their WCS Global Finals journey at BlizzCon. Now, there will be no more second chances as we enter the single elimination phase of the tournament.

2019 WCS Global Finals

The entire competitive year has boiled down to this. Who will emerge victorious on November 1st and claim StarCraft II's grandest prize? TL.net's writers offered their predictions. Let us know what you think in the comments!

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

by TheOneAboveU


Man, this bracket is redder than the eastern front in 1945, and just like back then, it looks very much like the red flood will continue its surge until unconditional surrender is given. Let's be honest, the chances of a Zerg—one Zerg in particular—winning this tournament are incredibly high. And while it's going to be a deserved victory, it's going to be a bit of a tainted one, in my opinion. Whoever wins this BlizzCon won't exactly be Sniper, but they may perhaps be a RorO: not someone carried by imbalance alone, but a genuinely great player using the full strength of their race.

Having mused a bit on that, let's take a look at my bracket, which is partly realistic, partly stuff of my dreams.

An all-Zerg top four seems like a real possibility here, although the Ro8 are hardly locks for the buggy boys. Looking at how much Trap struggled in his narrow win against Elazer in the Ro16, I don't like his chances. I think Classic vs. Rogue might actually be the closer match, even if Rogue looked dominant in his Ro16 ZvP matches. We'll be looking to Dark vs. Maru to deliver ZvT greatness, and it's going to be incredibly interesting which styles Dark brings to the table. It feels like he's tried to use literally every single Zerg comp in his recent GSL runs—only one of the thousand reasons I love him so much. But yeah, Dark at his core is a smasher of dreams, and I really want him to smash the particularly stupid dream of a Serral vs. Maru match. Because while it might have been good in 2018, I really don't see the appeal anymore: Serral would roll over Maru in his current form. So yeah, it would be great if we could get over that finally.

Now, in the ensuing ZvZ extravaganza, which may have a lot of people tuning out (which would be pretty sad but inevitable), I think Serral easily dispatches of Reynor. While the Italian was able to compete with the Finnish Phenom from time to time this year, their last few clashes were rather one-sided.

So, here's kind of where I want to depart from reality, and go into the land of my dreams: Dark takes revenge on Rogue and goes to the final, where he will stun every European Zerg/Lambo and his extended family/expert/fan with a completely new brand of Korean ZvZ he's developed and kept in reserve for this very moment....

Serral is clearly the favourite in every ZvZ, but I want Dark to take the title, so there you have it. Obviously, him being the smasher of dreams could also mean that he'll just smash my dream of him winning. That would be a weird bit of prioritization from Dark, but it seems to happen quite often; it's kind of an abusive relationship, honestly.

100% Accurate Prediction Guaranteed

by Olli


I find this bracket very hard to predict. But after my profound prognostic performances last year and during this year's group stage (admittedly much easier), I am confident in my crystal ball abilities. Now that I've got my gloating out of the way, on to predictions!

Right from the start, though, I find myself doubting my own picks. Make no mistake, Serral is a much better player than soO. Easy, right? But there's a case to make for soO here. Playing BO5+ ZvZ series with some preparation time is the one thing soO has always been excellent at, no matter his form. Up until a couple of years ago soO was regarded as the clear, undisputed best ZvZer of all time, and that class came through when he defeated Serral at IEM Katowice. But as much as I hate conformity I can't in good conscience predict a soO victory. Serral is the new master of ZvZ and should prove to be too good for soO in a longer series. This was, however, the hardest and most important series for me to predict — if Serral wins it I see him taking BlizzCon again.

Reynor and Trap make for another close pairing, but after seeing Trap's play against Rogue and Elazer, I believe Reynor will edge him out. Trap's weakness, if I had to pick one, is a slight lack of killer instinct and some degree of predictability. In some ways he has taken on the mantle of previous Protoss players like Rain and HotS-Zest. Beautifully crisp transitions and excellent decision-making make Trap one of the most elegant players in the world. But much like Rain and Zest did, he still has to add a certain cutting edge to his game to go from contender to champion. A cutthroat approach to PvZ is absolutely necessary in this current metagame, especially against Reynor who is even better at getting to the later stages of the match-up than Elazer. Unfortunately, I can't see Trap finding enough ways to end Reynor before he hits critical mass, which is why I see the Italian winning the series.

Perhaps the biggest upset I see happening is Classic defeating Rogue. While not exactly convincing in the group stage, Classic is one of the best preparation format players we have left. The meticulous analysis of opponents and planning of series has become a bit of a lost art, but Classic still has that ability. That should help him tremendously against a player like Rogue who, while himself is often volatile, is an excellent late-game player. Classic already showed keen killer instinct to defeat Rogue 3-2 during their Code S duel earlier this year. I expect we'll see a frantic series with both players trying to trick each other—a game that Classic should be happy to play as it keeps Rogue away from Brood Lord-Infestor.

And finally, I've got Dark beating Maru. Both are excellent players, but Maru is a notorious slouch in weekend tournaments, which he proved last BlizzCon and yet again with a surprising loss to TIME last weekend. The current state of balance also does him no favors, while Dark has proven very capable of playing a variety of styles. He's especially competent in weird, early-game scenarios, which means that even cheeses and timing-attacks can only help Maru so much. Ironically I see Maru as the better lategame player, but that in itself shows that this series might be a bit of a mismatch.

The bracket I see as rather straight forward from there. Serral and Reynor regularly do battle in WCS, with the Finn holding the better record recently—I don't expect that to change. Classic will give his absolute all against Dark before the military assimilates him and turns him into just another brick in the wall, but this too is a mismatch in Dark's favor, for much the same reasons as Dark's previous series. Classic will dig up the Protoss bulls*** bible and pull out even the dustiest builds if necessary, but Dark is more solid than Rogue is. He won't fall for that sort of game (at least not three times), and will see himself through to the finals.

Finally, I see the tournament ending in another mismatch, with Dark on the receiving end this time. Serral is the much better ZvZer between the two in my opinion, and ultimately the best player in the world by some distance. I can see Dark taking a map or two off him, but not an entire best-of-seven. And thus Serral wins back-to-back BlizzCon titles.

Hope + Reality = ???

by Orlok


Funnily enough, while Serral should and probably will dominate soO in the first match of the day, a tiny voice in my mind keeps screaming about the potential for an upset. soO fans will know by now his one continuing saving grace through all the good years and bad was the Zerg mirror. No matter where he stood in terms of form or meta-adaptability, ZvZ has been the rock upon which his legacy was built. While reality screams that Serral will pummel soO, I wouldn't be totally surprised if soO repeats his Katowice miracle.

Reynor vs Trap should be close, if only because Reynor has been rather iffy against Korean opposition all year. While Trap himself said he hasn't found an answer for the rampant powers of Zerg, he's still a tenacious and strong enough all-around player to make this even. If I have one quibble with Trap, it's his inability to close out. I don't doubt he could get past the first round, but if he does beat Reynor I don't see him making much headway against Serral.

If you asked me just one GSL season ago, I would have said this one was a toss-up. Classic had shown his ability to destabilize his opponents with carefully crafted builds, and had even taken out Rogue and Dark in Code S. However, Rogue has waxed while Classic has waned. While I don't want to keep harping about Zerg being a tad stronger than normal, I can't see Classic, within the confines of a best of five, actually manage to cheese his way through against Rogue. At the peak of his powers, Rogue can just about play or counter any style, so I see him winning easily.

I'm picking Maru to defeat Dark purely on heart. My head says Dark should take it—Maru was shaky in his groups, he's got a lot of history going against him when it comes to weekenders. Ironically, it's not Maru's fabled mid-game micro which wins him games against top opponents—it's his smothering late-game that shines through against championship contenders. Dark has smothered Maru's mid-game pushes since all the way back in Heart of the Swarm days, and the late-game seems to go to whoever the meta favors. Because I'm a biased Terran player and I can't handle an all-Zerg semis, I'm begging Maru to play at his absolute peak level and prove this prediction correct.

From there, it's actually relatively simple to predict the rest of the matches. Serral has had Reynor's number recently, recovering from the year's early losses to the Italian. Reynor could put up a tough fight, but I see the end result of Serral winning as inevitable. Rogue and Maru for me falls into the same logic as Dark and Maru. Rogue should win since he's peaking and Maru even in his prime runs was always challenged the hardest by his teammates, but for the sake of having a non-mirror final, I'm betting all my chips on Maru winning and inadvertently giving us the Serral-Maru match we all asked for last year. The end result is probably a blowout by Serral, who just has no weakness I can reasonably point to and say that his reign will win. After picking Maru with my heart in the past two rounds, this is one line I can't cross.

A Terran Can Dream

by Ziggy



We've got to a point where even Zerg players themselves (or at least the sensible among them) are budging, admitting the game's balance is clearly skewed in their favor. The foreign scene has lived under the yoke of Zerg for nearly two years, with eight of the nine WCS Circuit championships in 2018 and 2019 having been snatched right from under the noses of the two remaining races of the Koprulu sector. The Land of the Morning Calm, however, has only recently come to relive the horror of Wings of Liberty-esque Broodlord-Infestor, as two Code S titles and a Super Tournament were claimed by the swarm.

Balance complaining is at a fever pitch, with progamers and fans alike taking to social media and community sites to make both legitimate complaints and sarcastic wisecracks. And, while I do share the concerns expressed by the angry mob, I've found myself able to look on the bright side. All of this HAS to be coming together for an epic BlizzCon storyline and a universally-accepted ascension to Bonjwahood. Yes, I'm talking about Maru.

There are only so many things one can achieve in competitive SC2. Some are happy just getting the chance to compete on TV. For most, winning a tournament feels like a rite of passage and a realistic end-goal to crown their career. What could someone like Maru realistically have left to cross off his bucket list? He's an OSL Royal Roader, got that at the tender age of 16. He's matched Mvp's record of four GSL Code S titles, even going a step further and making sure they were back to back titles. He's the highest earning player in terms of winnings, just $15k shy of $800k. He has a WESG title under his belt, an SSL; add to that his record-breaking Proleague statistics and the 2014 Rookie of the Year award and one could claim Maru has virtually completed multiplayer.

Well, except for that BlizzCon title.


Dream Match: Confirmed

by Destructicon


Starting at the top of the bracket we’ll have a veritable ZvZ clash of the titans. In years past I’d have undoubtedly banked on soO's legendary ZvZ to prevail. But this match-up promises to be a lot closer now. Serral has had to clash a lot with Reynor and adapt to his weird antics, which seems to only have made him stronger as an all-around ZvZ player. soO has also suffered a few more defeats lately in ZvZ, and it seems like that hunger for winning might have been sated just enough to dull his edge. However a part of me still can't shake the feeling soO still has that spark of brilliance in him and, if he could summon it once more, he could pose a serious threat to Serral.

Both Reynor and Trap have grown a lot as players this year and have posted some of the best results of their careers. Reynor split the WCS circuit with Serral, winning Winter and Summer while even downing the head honcho himself. Trap, while having not won Code S, still posted his best results in Korea with back to back Code S finals. Thus it feels only fitting that they’d clash here. And while Reynor could be argued to have overcome some of his poor vs. Korean performances in the group stage (3-1 vs herO), I still think Trap is overall the better series planner. Trap can do cheeses, mid-game timings, and macro and he has the execution to back it up, so I just don't see him losing to Reynor.

Quarterfinal #3 is the toughest one to predict for a number of reasons. While Classic only has one championship to his name this year in the first GSL Super Tournament, he has placed high in all other events. Rogue, on the other hand simply exploded back to prominence late this year after lying dormant. Both Classic and Rogue have proven that they can be deadly in BO5 series. While I’d give Classic the edge in preparation, I think Rogue does an overall better job at noticing his opponent's weaknesses and just trying to abuse that mid-series. But I don't think this will phase Classic—having just barely obtained permission to travel abroad one last time, he'll do everything in his power to not waste this shot. As usual, his best bet will be to mind-game Rogue and get him off balance, striking before Rogue can execute his gameplan.

In more recent times Dark and Maru have usually produced long, drawn out series, going blow for blow in macro with the occasional cheese mixed in. Their clash at Blizzcon has the potential to be epic. The two opponents are very closely matched, with Maru having dominated most of 2018, but the pendulum seems to have swung more towards Dark now, especially if you go by their Super Tournament result. Maru has had the unfortunate tendency to cool down towards the end of the year. However, I think Maru will bring his A-game for this series and will just edge out Dark.

Moving onto the semifinals, I think Trap may just not have enough strategies left for his match against Serral after taking on Reynor. Serral is just on another level—he's already great against 'normal' harassment and all-in's, so what could Trap hope to do without a Serral-specific gameplan? In the other match, I think if Maru can get past Dark, he'll have a good shot at making he finals. Even though he suffered a devastating defeat against Trap in the semis of the last Code S, Maru has had time to shore up his TvP. Maru has also got the better of Classic earlier this year, and that was before the EMP buff.

If we end up with a Serral vs Maru finals like I'm predicting, I think they will be very closely matched. Both players are used to early game shenanigans, both have extremely strong macro, are both used to playing the late-game and have multi-tasking to run circles around almost everyone else. The two will probably trade blows across the early and late game but I think Maru has a small lead here. I feel like Serral just doesn't face many high caliber Terrans often enough, and of the few Terrans he faces, none are really like Maru. If Maru plays like someone who's willing to pay the price of having his wrists explode, he can bring a level of multi-tasking and aggression that could grind even Serral down at the end of a seven-game series.

Going Chalk

by Wax


Who are all these kids predicting with their hearts? We all know what's gonna happen.



Credits and acknowledgements

Written by: Destructicon, Orlok, TheOneAboveU, Ziggy, and Olli.
Photos: Patrick Strack via Blizzard.

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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3573 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 10:17:07
October 30 2019 10:16 GMT
#2
Says 2016 in the title

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dalecooper
Profile Joined July 2019
56 Posts
October 30 2019 10:20 GMT
#3
Wroooong! TvP in finals.
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Spirit_HUN
Profile Joined March 2018
24 Posts
October 30 2019 10:28 GMT
#4
Dark and Maru will never beat Serral.
I predict Serral vs Rouge finals.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6834 Posts
October 30 2019 10:47 GMT
#5
Wax got it right! Congratz Wax :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
October 30 2019 10:59 GMT
#6
Olli has it besides getting Rogue wrong.
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fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
October 30 2019 11:26 GMT
#7
I would be surprised if Serral even looses a map in the remaining games
DrunkenSCV
Profile Joined November 2016
76 Posts
October 30 2019 11:28 GMT
#8
I believe that Maru vs Serral is the most likely to happen scenario.
1) Maru's been playing in a way more standard style this year. Yes, his results at GSL are worse, but it may result in a better performance at weekend tournaments.
2) Nobody can be prepared for a terran player this good.
3) TvZ is his best match up and it's likely that this is the only match up he will have to play
plainsane
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany98 Posts
October 30 2019 11:28 GMT
#9
I'm with wax on this one, the Protosses will take a last stand to then fall in the semis to the best zergs of the moment, and while i like Darks playstyle more, i think Serral's ZvZ is just too strong in a Bo7.
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 30 2019 11:32 GMT
#10
Just wanted to say, in case it didn't really come out in the article itself: my head prediction also goes with Serral. But my heart feels the BIG DARK ENERGY.
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 11:57:39
October 30 2019 11:53 GMT
#11
Thank you Waxangel for the sensible prediction.

I anticipate the following, please feel free to add it to the original post if you wish:

Serral 3-1 soO
Reynor 2-3 Trap
Rogue 3-1 Classic
Dark 3-0 Maru

Serral 3-1 Trap
Rogue 3-1 Dark

Serral 4-1 Rogue.

It really comes down to form for me, and no-one has form like Serral. Dark and Rogue have both hit some steam recently but their vZ isn't going to hold up. I actually would say soO has potentially the biggest upset potential en route for Serral.

I like Reynor but I think history indicates he is unlikely to take out Trap. Maru just hasn't looked at all convincing to me lately, and history suggests he doesn't do great in weekenders after flight. I'm expecting a second rub out in a row from him.
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1225 Posts
October 30 2019 11:56 GMT
#12
Reynor could be argued to have overcome some of his poor vs. Korean performances in the group stage (3-1 vs herO)


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floating__bee
Profile Joined October 2019
Malaysia20 Posts
October 30 2019 11:59 GMT
#13
It's going to be a PvP final.

For Aiur.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19216 Posts
October 30 2019 12:03 GMT
#14
Top Bracket: Everyone played it safe with a Serral finals prediction.
I'm surprised no one was brave enough to predict someone else.

Bottom Bracket: Most played it wild and predicted Maru.
While Maru is an exciting choice, it's also a pretty boring choice since everyone picked it lol. Also, it is quite a diss towards Rogue that he wasn't even picked once.


I think the most dramatic finish would be a Trap vs Rogue rematch. Can you imagine Trap taking on Zerg after Zerg against all odds only to get crushed in the finals by Rogue?

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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 30 2019 12:07 GMT
#15
On October 30 2019 21:03 BisuDagger wrote:
Top Bracket: Everyone played it safe with a Serral finals prediction.
I'm surprised no one was brave enough to predict someone else.

Bottom Bracket: Most played it wild and predicted Maru.
While Maru is an exciting choice, it's also a pretty boring choice since everyone picked it lol. Also, it is quite a diss towards Rogue that he wasn't even picked once.


I think the most dramatic finish would be a Trap vs Rogue rematch. Can you imagine Trap taking on Zerg after Zerg against all odds only to get crushed in the finals by Rogue?


"Everyone played it safe with a Serral finals prediction.
I'm surprised no one was brave enough to predict someone else."

Uhm, yeah - we don't want to get lynched by Serral's fanboys next time we're at some event.
Also not everyone picked Maru.
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midhigh
Profile Joined July 2018
49 Posts
October 30 2019 12:08 GMT
#16
I think Dark can't ZvZ his way to championship, IF he meets with Rogue and Serral.
But i think this championship is Serral's to loose
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
October 30 2019 12:20 GMT
#17
soO Trap Rogue and Maru to win the first row, from there I dont know
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B42b42oss4
Profile Joined May 2015
Germany40 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 12:23:22
October 30 2019 12:22 GMT
#18
Everyone who has not Serral as winner should be stripped of his writer role because he's clearly incompetent
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12762 Posts
October 30 2019 12:29 GMT
#19
Smart for them to have Maru at the bottom, so a lot of people will watch till something like midnight before not watching if it ends up an all zerg semi.

I hope Maru will play at a decent time, and a soO upset would be fun
Trap upsetting Reynor would be nice as well
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tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
October 30 2019 12:38 GMT
#20
Let's not jynx him, mmkay. My head says Serral 4-3 Maru. My heart says Serral 4-0 Maru.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 12:53:51
October 30 2019 12:49 GMT
#21
On October 30 2019 21:08 midhigh wrote:
I think Dark can't ZvZ his way to championship, IF he meets with Rogue and Serral.
But i think this championship is Serral's to loose


Serral certainly has the bracket to do a repeat, I think he ace his way to the final tbh. Maybe Rogue can upset him there. Or Maru I guess but that ain't happening.

Also I think Reynor gets bop by Trap. He was looking nervous as shit in his group, I think he will just crumble on stage.
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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
October 30 2019 12:54 GMT
#22
Much as I love Classic I think Serral-Rogue's very likely. An interesting storyline in its symmetry, the battle of the repeat winners, and the most stable Zerg against the sneakiest.
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Miralem Ibrahim
Profile Joined April 2019
40 Posts
October 30 2019 12:59 GMT
#23
I think the only one who can match Serral in ZvZ is Reynor so I hope this final won't be a ZvZ because if it's the case it will be a "free win" for Serral. Even if Rogue said he is better in late game I just remember what happened in blizzcon last years so I don't believe in his chance against the finish men.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
October 30 2019 13:00 GMT
#24
On October 30 2019 21:54 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Much as I love Classic I think Serral-Rogue's very likely. An interesting storyline in its symmetry, the battle of the repeat winners, and the most stable Zerg against the sneakiest.


It would be funny if Rogue win that. We would have:

Rogue: Blizzcon-IEM-Nothing-Blizzcon

And Serral:
Nothing-Blizzcon-Blizzcon final

Same as sOs-Life

I'm guessing Serral get busted for organizing dog fight next.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 30 2019 13:00 GMT
#25
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 30 2019 13:02 GMT
#26
On October 30 2019 22:00 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2019 21:54 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Much as I love Classic I think Serral-Rogue's very likely. An interesting storyline in its symmetry, the battle of the repeat winners, and the most stable Zerg against the sneakiest.


It would be funny if Rogue win that. We would have:

Rogue: Blizzcon-IEM-Nothing-Blizzcon

And Serral:
Nothing-Blizzcon-Blizzcon final

Same as sOs-Life

I'm guessing Serral get busted for organizing dog fight next.

Cheating in his golf tournaments.
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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland926 Posts
October 30 2019 13:16 GMT
#27
On October 30 2019 21:07 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2019 21:03 BisuDagger wrote:
Top Bracket: Everyone played it safe with a Serral finals prediction.
I'm surprised no one was brave enough to predict someone else.

Bottom Bracket: Most played it wild and predicted Maru.
While Maru is an exciting choice, it's also a pretty boring choice since everyone picked it lol. Also, it is quite a diss towards Rogue that he wasn't even picked once.


I think the most dramatic finish would be a Trap vs Rogue rematch. Can you imagine Trap taking on Zerg after Zerg against all odds only to get crushed in the finals by Rogue?


"Everyone played it safe with a Serral finals prediction.
I'm surprised no one was brave enough to predict someone else."

Uhm, yeah - we don't want to get lynched by Serral's fanboys next time we're at some event.
Also not everyone picked Maru.



Hey, I'd make it quick and painless.
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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
October 30 2019 13:19 GMT
#28
On October 30 2019 22:00 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2019 21:54 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Much as I love Classic I think Serral-Rogue's very likely. An interesting storyline in its symmetry, the battle of the repeat winners, and the most stable Zerg against the sneakiest.


It would be funny if Rogue win that. We would have:

Rogue: Blizzcon-IEM-Nothing-Blizzcon

And Serral:
Nothing-Blizzcon-Blizzcon final

Same as sOs-Life

I'm guessing Serral get busted for organizing dog fight next.


Yeah the real upset : Serral cruises to ZvZ finals, then goes on to lose it.

Ditches golf for weight-lifting competitions and fight club next.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Meeii
Profile Joined July 2015
155 Posts
October 30 2019 13:25 GMT
#29
On October 30 2019 20:28 DrunkenSCV wrote:
I believe that Maru vs Serral is the most likely to happen scenario.
1) Maru's been playing in a way more standard style this year. Yes, his results at GSL are worse, but it may result in a better performance at weekend tournaments.
2) Nobody can be prepared for a terran player this good.
3) TvZ is his best match up and it's likely that this is the only match up he will have to play


I would put my money on Maru in any TvZ.. expect for Dark. Darks ZvT just seems so damn solid.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 13:46:17
October 30 2019 13:33 GMT
#30
Looking forward to Maru vs Classic in the lower bracket semi-finals.
Im liking Destruction's bracket, but rooting for reverse mapscore in the finals
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Mettis
Profile Joined June 2019
84 Posts
October 30 2019 13:46 GMT
#31
I'll go for a wild bracket.

Serral 3-0 soO
Reynor 3-2 Trap

Rogue 3-1 Classic
Dark 1-3 Maru

Reynor 3-2 Serral
Maru 3-0 Classic

Maru 4-3 Reynor
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
October 30 2019 13:53 GMT
#32
Any prediction that says Maru doesn't win is wrong.
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
parksonsc
Profile Joined May 2019
175 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 13:58:55
October 30 2019 13:58 GMT
#33
What has Serral done to make him the favorite versus Maru? Like he beat TY whose TvZ is nowhere near the level of Maru and Maru only recently lost to Dark whose ZvT is also godlike (Maru actually beat Dark in the latest online match).
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 30 2019 14:08 GMT
#34
On October 30 2019 22:58 parksonsc wrote:
What has Serral done to make him the favorite versus Maru? Like he beat TY whose TvZ is nowhere near the level of Maru and Maru only recently lost to Dark whose ZvT is also godlike (Maru actually beat Dark in the latest online match).

you seem to forget their glorious best of one in the showmtach last year
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
mindover
Profile Joined January 2019
4 Posts
October 30 2019 14:14 GMT
#35
Serral 0-3 soO
Reynor 1-3 Trap
Rogue 0-3 Classic
Dark 0-3 Maru

soO 0-3 Trap
Classic 0-3 Maru

Trap 3-0 Maru

Here is the truth
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 30 2019 14:30 GMT
#36
On October 30 2019 23:14 mindover wrote:
Serral 0-3 soO
Reynor 1-3 Trap
Rogue 0-3 Classic
Dark 0-3 Maru

soO 0-3 Trap
Classic 0-3 Maru

Trap 3-0 Maru

Here is the truth

Found GGemini's alt account!
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6834 Posts
October 30 2019 14:34 GMT
#37
On October 30 2019 22:58 parksonsc wrote:
What has Serral done to make him the favorite versus Maru? Like he beat TY whose TvZ is nowhere near the level of Maru and Maru only recently lost to Dark whose ZvT is also godlike (Maru actually beat Dark in the latest online match).


Playing the most flawless Starcraft 2 there is right now would be my answer.

Really hoping for a close Serral vs Maru final going the full length. Don't even care that much who wins in the end
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
October 30 2019 14:34 GMT
#38
On October 30 2019 23:14 mindover wrote:
Serral 0-3 soO
Reynor 1-3 Trap
Rogue 0-3 Classic
Dark 0-3 Maru

soO 0-3 Trap
Classic 0-3 Maru

Trap 3-0 Maru

Here is the truth

Thanks for the giggle. :D
ImmortalGhost
Profile Joined April 2019
United States57 Posts
October 30 2019 14:37 GMT
#39
Actually, the finals will be PvP and no one will watch
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 30 2019 14:39 GMT
#40
I'll believe in any prediction, except those where Maru faces Serral.
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
October 30 2019 14:41 GMT
#41
On October 30 2019 22:58 parksonsc wrote:
What has Serral done to make him the favorite versus Maru? Like he beat TY whose TvZ is nowhere near the level of Maru and Maru only recently lost to Dark whose ZvT is also godlike (Maru actually beat Dark in the latest online match).

I don't think he's a clear favorite, especially since he lacks practice against the best terrans. I think he has a 52%-ish chance of winning a Bo7. It could easily be 60% if he had spent even 2 months in Korea training, due to his overwhelming mechanics. Alas, he's too comfortable being at home. He showed some innovative nydus usage vs TIME, and I'm thinking he has more up his sleeves.
FlyGaho
Profile Joined October 2019
22 Posts
October 30 2019 14:42 GMT
#42
Goat Serral will repeat and wins Blizzcon back 2 back

And will be hands down the SC2 GOAT. No debate about that.

What a time to be alive to witness greatness. We just keep winning baby
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 14:51:31
October 30 2019 14:51 GMT
#43
i was thinking that upper bracket placement inherits a bit of advantage in the weekenders right?

As the upper semifinals while be played first and the winner will have like 1h or 1h 30 min more of rest compared to the winner of the semifinals of the lower bracket.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
October 30 2019 15:10 GMT
#44
On October 30 2019 22:53 Ziggy wrote:
Any prediction that says Maru doesn't win is wrong.


Preach it brother.
Writer"Don't leave me hangin!"
RDO
Profile Joined July 2014
Italy60 Posts
October 30 2019 15:24 GMT
#45
I'd love a Reynor - Classic finals, and at that point I'd be ok with every outcome. Unfortunately I don't think it'll happen.
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."
Poaktree
Profile Joined January 2017
165 Posts
October 30 2019 15:32 GMT
#46
Haahaha Holyshit! You guys are drunk! 3/6 predicted Maru-Serral finals? Guys, haven't you learned already? They managed to dodge each other while they were in the same group! It's not happening!!
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 30 2019 15:40 GMT
#47
Pretty unfortunate, that Trap and Reynor have to eliminate each other that early. Both of them had absolutly great years so far. While it s not expected from either of them to win the whole tournament a Top 4 would be a reasonable goal for both.
MaxPax
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
October 30 2019 15:54 GMT
#48
How the hell would anyone predict Dark winning against Serral in a ZvZ when Serral has been having his number for like what, two years?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States870 Posts
October 30 2019 16:18 GMT
#49
I liked wax's bracket and write-up most. The one thing I disagree with is that I think Rogue is going to win his Ro8 and Ro4 matches.

What I would like most, however, is upsets across the board! Those are usually my favorite tournaments
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 30 2019 16:31 GMT
#50
Heart says soO - Serral 3:0 and Maru - Trap 4:3 in the finals

Head says Maru - Serral 4:0 in the finals
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
October 30 2019 16:37 GMT
#51
My heart wants a classic vs soo final so hard
"You don't need a gsl champion, you don't need a esl champion. I feel like I'm just a normal man. I just practice very hard this time, like 15hrs everyday" Oliveira 2023
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
October 30 2019 16:39 GMT
#52
Dark vs Maru is gonna be so sick (unless bad Maru shows up)
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 30 2019 16:43 GMT
#53
On October 31 2019 00:54 digmouse wrote:
How the hell would anyone predict Dark winning against Serral in a ZvZ when Serral has been having his number for like what, two years?

That's why it's called a fantasy bracket, as stated up there. You guys just looking at the brackets, or are you also reading the texts? :D
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 30 2019 16:46 GMT
#54
Serral makes final 100%

If Dark beats Maru, Serral wins the final vs Rogue

If Maru beats Dark, it's 50/50 whether Rogue or Maru make the final, so 50/50 whether Serral wins or not.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
October 30 2019 16:46 GMT
#55
The Terran's dream is very much alive with this one. Until Maru loses in the first round.


Also points for that MBDTF reference lol

Mine gas, build tanks.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 30 2019 16:52 GMT
#56
We simply need Maru-Trap finals for maximum confusion about whether Zerg is actually OP or not.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1184 Posts
October 30 2019 16:53 GMT
#57
not sure why everyone is convinced Maru would beat Serral if he gets to the finals. It's a moot point either way, because if Maru can't beat Time to get the dream match, we might as well admit it's never happening
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
ProFalseIdol
Profile Joined June 2018
70 Posts
October 30 2019 17:09 GMT
#58
On October 31 2019 01:53 dysenterymd wrote:
not sure why everyone is convinced Maru would beat Serral if he gets to the finals. It's a moot point either way, because if Maru can't beat Time to get the dream match, we might as well admit it's never happening


If only Serral wasn't a chicken and stop playing the minor leagues. "He doesn't wanna leave his home". BS.
I am not against his decision of not joining Code S and continue playing in the junior league. However, that should mean that he can never be the best player since objectively most of the best players are still in Korea, and he has lost IEM, WESG, ROG. Best foreigner sure.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 30 2019 17:16 GMT
#59
all zerg semi final into Rogue vs Serral finals with Serral probably taking it 4-2 or 4-1
FlyGaho
Profile Joined October 2019
22 Posts
October 30 2019 17:17 GMT
#60
On October 31 2019 02:09 ProFalseIdol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 01:53 dysenterymd wrote:
not sure why everyone is convinced Maru would beat Serral if he gets to the finals. It's a moot point either way, because if Maru can't beat Time to get the dream match, we might as well admit it's never happening


If only Serral wasn't a chicken and stop playing the minor leagues. "He doesn't wanna leave his home". BS.
I am not against his decision of not joining Code S and continue playing in the junior league. However, that should mean that he can never be the best player since objectively most of the best players are still in Korea, and he has lost IEM, WESG, ROG. Best foreigner sure.


You mean the same touranments that Serral was waiting for Maru, but Maru was busy dodging and no where to be found?

Got it!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13969 Posts
October 30 2019 17:20 GMT
#61
Im going to say Classic > Reynor
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
October 30 2019 17:49 GMT
#62
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
October 30 2019 17:52 GMT
#63
If Rogue made to the final and lost, then his Bo7 unbroken record will be put to an end.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
ImProvementSC2
Profile Joined November 2017
11 Posts
October 30 2019 17:57 GMT
#64
No one predicting soO to beat Serral smh
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 30 2019 18:02 GMT
#65
Destruction has it almost spot on ! Just replace Classic with Rogue
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3415 Posts
October 30 2019 18:21 GMT
#66
4 zergs in the semis, so I go to sleep instead of watching it until the very end.That's the most sensible prediction, with my health being the real winner.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 30 2019 18:49 GMT
#67
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1355 Posts
October 30 2019 19:10 GMT
#68
Maru vs Serral please !
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 19:38:55
October 30 2019 19:35 GMT
#69
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

I would be willing to put my signature at risk (partly because it hasnt been updated... in a while), but not for this, soo and Reynor have proven they have a legit shot at him.

However I'd wager that it's not gonna be 2 ZVZ semis (i would still watch it if it were). In fact i am convinced karma is gonna bite Rouge in the ass, and Classic knocks him out. And if not, Maru and Trap both have ~50% in my book, so overall fairly certain it's not gonna be 4 Z
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
October 30 2019 19:36 GMT
#70
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
October 30 2019 20:11 GMT
#71
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 30 2019 22:14 GMT
#72
Grand finals is going to be

(Z)RorO > (Z)RorO
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
October 30 2019 23:27 GMT
#73
On October 31 2019 04:35 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

I would be willing to put my signature at risk (partly because it hasnt been updated... in a while), but not for this, soo and Reynor have proven they have a legit shot at him.

However I'd wager that it's not gonna be 2 ZVZ semis (i would still watch it if it were). In fact i am convinced karma is gonna bite Rouge in the ass, and Classic knocks him out. And if not, Maru and Trap both have ~50% in my book, so overall fairly certain it's not gonna be 4 Z


To clarify, I'm betting on the side of Serral NOT making it to the finals. If he makes it to the finals I lose.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 23:33:45
October 30 2019 23:29 GMT
#74
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
October 31 2019 00:14 GMT
#75
I'm still saying Reynor vs Rogue finals
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
October 31 2019 00:18 GMT
#76
i'm predicting Maru vs Serral will not happen
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
October 31 2019 00:53 GMT
#77
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Show nested quote +
Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 31 2019 01:30 GMT
#78
So much foreigner and Zerg imba hype till everyone overlooks the GoT-esque narrative brewing...

Team SKT v Team JinAir!

(Z)soO vs (P)Classic / (Z)Dark finals incoming!

SKT best KT!
gg no re thx
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
October 31 2019 04:20 GMT
#79
On October 31 2019 02:09 ProFalseIdol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 01:53 dysenterymd wrote:
not sure why everyone is convinced Maru would beat Serral if he gets to the finals. It's a moot point either way, because if Maru can't beat Time to get the dream match, we might as well admit it's never happening


If only Serral wasn't a chicken and stop playing the minor leagues. "He doesn't wanna leave his home". BS.
I am not against his decision of not joining Code S and continue playing in the junior league. However, that should mean that he can never be the best player since objectively most of the best players are still in Korea, and he has lost IEM, WESG, ROG. Best foreigner sure.


If you need to be the one who wins everything then there are no best player and you have to see "Koreans" as one player and instead as a group of individuals. No individual Korean did better than Serral, but as a group... Yeah sure they did xD and they always will.

I think playing to have fun and win money, not to satisfy a group of demeaning critics who are becoming more and more irrelevant is smarter. So he should do what he wants :-)
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 31 2019 04:51 GMT
#80
Head: Serral vs Rogue finals (4-2 for Serral)

Heart: Classic vs soO (4-3 either way)
fgonzo
Profile Joined September 2019
108 Posts
October 31 2019 05:32 GMT
#81
Low key I'm hoping Classic wins the whole thing. Would be a nice last thing before the military.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
October 31 2019 05:47 GMT
#82
On October 31 2019 09:53 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.


Sorry buddy, but the other guy did beat you to it. Lets see if GettingIt replies though, if not I'll happily take you up on it instead .
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ProFalseIdol
Profile Joined June 2018
70 Posts
October 31 2019 05:50 GMT
#83
On October 31 2019 13:20 Noa Greenini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 02:09 ProFalseIdol wrote:
On October 31 2019 01:53 dysenterymd wrote:
not sure why everyone is convinced Maru would beat Serral if he gets to the finals. It's a moot point either way, because if Maru can't beat Time to get the dream match, we might as well admit it's never happening


If only Serral wasn't a chicken and stop playing the minor leagues. "He doesn't wanna leave his home". BS.
I am not against his decision of not joining Code S and continue playing in the junior league. However, that should mean that he can never be the best player since objectively most of the best players are still in Korea, and he has lost IEM, WESG, ROG. Best foreigner sure.


If you need to be the one who wins everything then there are no best player and you have to see "Koreans" as one player and instead as a group of individuals. No individual Korean did better than Serral, but as a group... Yeah sure they did xD and they always will.

I think playing to have fun and win money, not to satisfy a group of demeaning critics who are becoming more and more irrelevant is smarter. So he should do what he wants :-)


Nah, you're making up words. What I said that he should join Code S and stop messing around in the Circuit. NOT play all the tournaments. Again, I am not against him having fun, winning money and messing around beating foreigners; this is just my argument against calling him the best.

> No individual Korean did better than Serral, but as a group... Yeah sure they did xD and they always will.

Exactly, and that is why Serral needs to play in Code S. It is where he can prove it. He has disproven it with his losses in the premier tournaments mentioned previously. His Blizzcon win is great, but he is not breaking any record here.

I do not however agree that he did better than any individual Korean. In 2018 he got destroyed by Maru in WESG. He then played against Has, Mana, Showtime, Raynor? Compared that to playing against Dark, TY, Stats, Rogue, and a bunch more way better than Mana.
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
October 31 2019 06:34 GMT
#84
On October 31 2019 14:50 ProFalseIdol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 13:20 Noa Greenini wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:09 ProFalseIdol wrote:
On October 31 2019 01:53 dysenterymd wrote:
not sure why everyone is convinced Maru would beat Serral if he gets to the finals. It's a moot point either way, because if Maru can't beat Time to get the dream match, we might as well admit it's never happening


If only Serral wasn't a chicken and stop playing the minor leagues. "He doesn't wanna leave his home". BS.
I am not against his decision of not joining Code S and continue playing in the junior league. However, that should mean that he can never be the best player since objectively most of the best players are still in Korea, and he has lost IEM, WESG, ROG. Best foreigner sure.


If you need to be the one who wins everything then there are no best player and you have to see "Koreans" as one player and instead as a group of individuals. No individual Korean did better than Serral, but as a group... Yeah sure they did xD and they always will.

I think playing to have fun and win money, not to satisfy a group of demeaning critics who are becoming more and more irrelevant is smarter. So he should do what he wants :-)


Nah, you're making up words. What I said that he should join Code S and stop messing around in the Circuit. NOT play all the tournaments. Again, I am not against him having fun, winning money and messing around beating foreigners; this is just my argument against calling him the best.

> No individual Korean did better than Serral, but as a group... Yeah sure they did xD and they always will.


Exactly, and that is why Serral needs to play in Code S. It is where he can prove it. He has disproven it with his losses in the premier tournaments mentioned previously. His Blizzcon win is great, but he is not breaking any record here.

I do not however agree that he did better than any individual Korean. In 2018 he got destroyed by Maru in WESG. He then played against Has, Mana, Showtime, Raynor? Compared that to playing against Dark, TY, Stats, Rogue, and a bunch more way better than Mana.


Gosh, listen to yourself, and your previous comments. "Making up words". You're extremely rude and disrespectful, there is no serious discussion to be had as long as that is how you act.

Here is the difference between a respectful fan of the sport and a snarky elitist:
Fan of sport: "I wish x player would play in x tournament, because I want to see x play against the best!"
You: "Serral is a chicken who gets destroyed by Koreans".

Okay, you don't want to call him the best? Fine, you don't have to. I personally believe he is the best right now, but not by a huge margin (which is why he doesn't win everything). I'm not going to be demeaning to Koreans to prove my point. And to you, I have to prove nothing.

Anyway, I want a terran to win so go Maru!
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary466 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-31 08:11:30
October 31 2019 08:09 GMT
#85
Its funny how hard everybody is counting soO and Trap out and even Classic. They are all dangerous opponents and have a legit shot.
Why so serious?
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
October 31 2019 08:15 GMT
#86
On October 31 2019 14:47 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 09:53 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.


Sorry buddy, but the other guy did beat you to it. Lets see if GettingIt replies though, if not I'll happily take you up on it instead .

Oh lovely! Sorry, but I won't be anybody's second choice. I love myself and know the respect I deserve.

I respectfully decline.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6834 Posts
October 31 2019 08:46 GMT
#87
On October 31 2019 17:15 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 14:47 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 09:53 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.


Sorry buddy, but the other guy did beat you to it. Lets see if GettingIt replies though, if not I'll happily take you up on it instead .

Oh lovely! Sorry, but I won't be anybody's second choice. I love myself and know the respect I deserve.

I respectfully decline.



My signature sucks anyway. I do it

Serral will reach the finals
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2747 Posts
October 31 2019 09:41 GMT
#88
On October 30 2019 21:29 Poopi wrote:
Smart for them to have Maru at the bottom, so a lot of people will watch till something like midnight before not watching if it ends up an all zerg semi.

I hope Maru will play at a decent time, and a soO upset would be fun
Trap upsetting Reynor would be nice as well


Trap beating Reynor wouldn't be a big upset considering how the spaghetti boy did vs herO.
I'll cheer for him tho !
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 31 2019 10:13 GMT
#89
On October 31 2019 14:50 ProFalseIdol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 13:20 Noa Greenini wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:09 ProFalseIdol wrote:
On October 31 2019 01:53 dysenterymd wrote:
not sure why everyone is convinced Maru would beat Serral if he gets to the finals. It's a moot point either way, because if Maru can't beat Time to get the dream match, we might as well admit it's never happening


If only Serral wasn't a chicken and stop playing the minor leagues. "He doesn't wanna leave his home". BS.
I am not against his decision of not joining Code S and continue playing in the junior league. However, that should mean that he can never be the best player since objectively most of the best players are still in Korea, and he has lost IEM, WESG, ROG. Best foreigner sure.


If you need to be the one who wins everything then there are no best player and you have to see "Koreans" as one player and instead as a group of individuals. No individual Korean did better than Serral, but as a group... Yeah sure they did xD and they always will.

I think playing to have fun and win money, not to satisfy a group of demeaning critics who are becoming more and more irrelevant is smarter. So he should do what he wants :-)


Nah, you're making up words. What I said that he should join Code S and stop messing around in the Circuit. NOT play all the tournaments. Again, I am not against him having fun, winning money and messing around beating foreigners; this is just my argument against calling him the best.

> No individual Korean did better than Serral, but as a group... Yeah sure they did xD and they always will.

Exactly, and that is why Serral needs to play in Code S. It is where he can prove it. He has disproven it with his losses in the premier tournaments mentioned previously. His Blizzcon win is great, but he is not breaking any record here.

I do not however agree that he did better than any individual Korean. In 2018 he got destroyed by Maru in WESG. He then played against Has, Mana, Showtime, Raynor? Compared that to playing against Dark, TY, Stats, Rogue, and a bunch more way better than Mana.


Ever koreans as a whole did worse than Serral during his ascent in 2018, let alone individual ones; I'll repeat ad nauseam that Maru beat him before he completed the last step to greatness, that is being able to win premier tournaments over the best korean players.

In 2019, Serral stepped down from being the absolute dominator of Sc2, merely becoming one of the best players in the world. He was defeated by koreans and Reynor but he still retained absurd consistency in his deep runs; you would be praising Serral, no doubt, if you weren't blinded by your obtuse korean elitism.

Starting with GSL vs the World, Serral hasn't lost a single series yet and he is looking like the best in the world once again. I would like to see him play in Code S but there is no need for that to call Serral the best: results speak for themselves, the rest is just bias.

On topic, I like Orlok's bracket the most.
CoupdeBoule
Profile Joined November 2018
73 Posts
October 31 2019 10:19 GMT
#90
Dream: Maru vs Serral in the finals playing the best they’re ever played - with one of them still standing when the dust settles.

Nightmare: ZvZ final or even - yikes - all Z ro4
pichoo
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia123 Posts
October 31 2019 11:45 GMT
#91
Soo beat Serral twice at the recent Nationwars. It's not going to be a walk in the park Ro8 for Serral.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 31 2019 11:59 GMT
#92
On October 31 2019 20:45 pichoo wrote:
Soo beat Serral twice at the recent Nationwars. It's not going to be a walk in the park Ro8 for Serral.


It happened in April 2018, it was actually the previous Nation Wars. soO eliminated Serral at IEM Katowice but got swept at HSC, this year; soO's ZvZ hasn't looking outstanding in the current patch while Serral seems super deadly.
All elements would point toward an "easy" victory for Serral, but I am convinced soO will play better than he recently did.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2747 Posts
October 31 2019 12:03 GMT
#93
Considering the upcoming patch, I hope to see a lot of ITs and zergs wins because it won't happen anymore haha
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6834 Posts
October 31 2019 12:27 GMT
#94
On October 31 2019 20:45 pichoo wrote:
Soo beat Serral twice at the recent Nationwars. It's not going to be a walk in the park Ro8 for Serral.


Your definition of "recent" is rather interesting ^^

Still, I think the games will be close but in the end Serral will outplay soO in every game cause soO's play right now seems a bit sloppy at times while Serral's is crisp to the point
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12762 Posts
October 31 2019 12:30 GMT
#95
It's either Serral 3-0 soO or soO upset Serral, I don't see it as a close 3-2 victory for Serral (but if soO upsets Serral it would be close indeed) ; because if soO wins it's because of destiny as at IEM Katowice.
WriterMaru
dspnebula
Profile Joined April 2019
37 Posts
October 31 2019 12:59 GMT
#96
I prefer the 1st one LUL
Lazzarus
Profile Joined December 2008
Faroe Islands114 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-31 13:40:24
October 31 2019 13:32 GMT
#97
I am so hyped for the first ever back-to-back world champion.

I've never understood the blind fanboyism and obsession football (EU) enthusiasts exude - until now...

I'm a Serral fanboy and proud of it!

Edit: "Who will emerge victorious on November 1st and claim StarCraft II's grandest prize?" seems as if the finals will conclude on the 1st of November. However, semifinals and Grand Final are on November 2nd.
Solio1
Profile Joined July 2019
26 Posts
October 31 2019 13:51 GMT
#98
This has the potential to be the worst blizzcon in history.
I hope maru, trap or classic wins in the first round to save the tournament.
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany454 Posts
October 31 2019 13:59 GMT
#99
Im betting on Serral vs. Rogue finals. Both are in form (well, Serral is pretty much always in form), while Maru had a mixed year and Dark showed some weaknesses in the group stage. Winning narrowly 3-2 against Showtime and soO makes me think he will drop out against one of the even higher calibre players left in his path.
If Serral vs. Rogue will happen, I think even Rogues stellar bo7 winrate will not safe him from losing to Serral again.
Dark Age of Camelot - I miss you
tropicalhotdog
Profile Joined March 2018
8 Posts
October 31 2019 14:22 GMT
#100
Please don't let there be any clean sweeps. Ready for great games!

Heart says Maru, head says Serral over Rogue in finals.
* INno * Maru * Classic * sOs * Dark *
veniss
Profile Joined August 2018
73 Posts
October 31 2019 15:53 GMT
#101
I'm rooting for Serral or Reynor. Reynor winning Blizzcon would be wild.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
October 31 2019 16:52 GMT
#102
On October 31 2019 17:15 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 14:47 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 09:53 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.


Sorry buddy, but the other guy did beat you to it. Lets see if GettingIt replies though, if not I'll happily take you up on it instead .

Oh lovely! Sorry, but I won't be anybody's second choice. I love myself and know the respect I deserve.

I respectfully decline.


This was an awesome response. You do you dude.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
October 31 2019 16:55 GMT
#103
Maru is fucked
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-31 17:02:12
October 31 2019 16:59 GMT
#104
So sad this is in the middle of the night. Almost impossible to stay awake and focused so late. I probably only watch the Serral and Reynor quarterfinals live.

The only upside is that if Serral/Reynor or Maru wins I can watch the games later. If some other player wins I save time by not watching it at all.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
October 31 2019 17:31 GMT
#105
On October 31 2019 17:46 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 17:15 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 14:47 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 09:53 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.


Sorry buddy, but the other guy did beat you to it. Lets see if GettingIt replies though, if not I'll happily take you up on it instead .

Oh lovely! Sorry, but I won't be anybody's second choice. I love myself and know the respect I deserve.

I respectfully decline.



My signature sucks anyway. I do it

Serral will reach the finals


We have an accord!


TheDougler bets Serral does not make the finals. If TheDougler wins, Harris1sts signature becomes:

"TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down. "

Harris1st bet he will indeed be a finalist. If Harris1st wins, TheDougler's signature becomes:
"I, The Dougler, bow to the reigning Blizzcon SigBet Champ Harris1st. Also Serral 4 GOAT."

May the best man win the prestigious BlizzCon SigBet championship!

_______

Oh! We should decide on how long it should be. Last year we just did until WCS Spring 2019 I think. But I'd be down with either it being a year-long thing or a signature lost in a sig-bet can only be replaced by a signature won through a sig-bet, or just doing until WCS Spring again or other ideas. Up to you .
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
October 31 2019 18:36 GMT
#106
On November 01 2019 02:31 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 17:46 Harris1st wrote:
On October 31 2019 17:15 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 14:47 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 09:53 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.


Sorry buddy, but the other guy did beat you to it. Lets see if GettingIt replies though, if not I'll happily take you up on it instead .

Oh lovely! Sorry, but I won't be anybody's second choice. I love myself and know the respect I deserve.

I respectfully decline.



My signature sucks anyway. I do it

Serral will reach the finals


We have an accord!


TheDougler bets Serral does not make the finals. If TheDougler wins, Harris1sts signature becomes:

"TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down. "

Harris1st bet he will indeed be a finalist. If Harris1st wins, TheDougler's signature becomes:
"I, The Dougler, bow to the reigning Blizzcon SigBet Champ Harris1st. Also Serral 4 GOAT."

May the best man win the prestigious BlizzCon SigBet championship!

_______

Oh! We should decide on how long it should be. Last year we just did until WCS Spring 2019 I think. But I'd be down with either it being a year-long thing or a signature lost in a sig-bet can only be replaced by a signature won through a sig-bet, or just doing until WCS Spring again or other ideas. Up to you .


Looks like I responded too late, but I'll still change my signature to the below if Serral doesn't make finals just so that I can have more reason to root for Serral.

"TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down. "
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
October 31 2019 19:57 GMT
#107
On November 01 2019 03:36 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 02:31 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 17:46 Harris1st wrote:
On October 31 2019 17:15 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 14:47 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 09:53 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.


Sorry buddy, but the other guy did beat you to it. Lets see if GettingIt replies though, if not I'll happily take you up on it instead .

Oh lovely! Sorry, but I won't be anybody's second choice. I love myself and know the respect I deserve.

I respectfully decline.



My signature sucks anyway. I do it

Serral will reach the finals


We have an accord!


TheDougler bets Serral does not make the finals. If TheDougler wins, Harris1sts signature becomes:

"TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down. "

Harris1st bet he will indeed be a finalist. If Harris1st wins, TheDougler's signature becomes:
"I, The Dougler, bow to the reigning Blizzcon SigBet Champ Harris1st. Also Serral 4 GOAT."

May the best man win the prestigious BlizzCon SigBet championship!

_______

Oh! We should decide on how long it should be. Last year we just did until WCS Spring 2019 I think. But I'd be down with either it being a year-long thing or a signature lost in a sig-bet can only be replaced by a signature won through a sig-bet, or just doing until WCS Spring again or other ideas. Up to you .


Looks like I responded too late, but I'll still change my signature to the below if Serral doesn't make finals just so that I can have more reason to root for Serral.

"TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down. "


Cheers bud!

Heh, in truth that's actually part of why I'm doing this too. Now if Serral loses I get to think "oh well at least I won my bet" and if he wins I'm still stoked for Serral winning! (unless he loses in the finals, but even then there's some cool potential storylines).

Should be a fun weekend!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
October 31 2019 20:05 GMT
#108
hahaha. Wax, your commentary is spot on.
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
October 31 2019 22:08 GMT
#109
Trap vs Maru finals.
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
November 01 2019 00:14 GMT
#110
Well I think no non-Zerg will advance in Ro4,and the final will be Serral vs Rogue.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2827 Posts
November 01 2019 02:24 GMT
#111
On November 01 2019 00:53 veniss wrote:
I'm rooting for Serral or Reynor. Reynor winning Blizzcon would be wild.


He's too young x)

I'd like to see herO--I mean...Classic, Maru or a Serral repeat.
aka wilted_kale
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
November 01 2019 03:18 GMT
#112
On October 31 2019 22:32 Lazzarus wrote:
I am so hyped for the first ever back-to-back world champion.

I've never understood the blind fanboyism and obsession football (EU) enthusiasts exude - until now...

I'm a Serral fanboy and proud of it!

Edit: "Who will emerge victorious on November 1st and claim StarCraft II's grandest prize?" seems as if the finals will conclude on the 1st of November. However, semifinals and Grand Final are on November 2nd.


https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23189289/
This year we're in the Blizzcon Arena at the cost of the whole event ending in one day instead of two. Finals will be November 1st
Lazzarus
Profile Joined December 2008
Faroe Islands114 Posts
November 01 2019 09:01 GMT
#113
On November 01 2019 12:18 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 22:32 Lazzarus wrote:
I am so hyped for the first ever back-to-back world champion.

I've never understood the blind fanboyism and obsession football (EU) enthusiasts exude - until now...

I'm a Serral fanboy and proud of it!

Edit: "Who will emerge victorious on November 1st and claim StarCraft II's grandest prize?" seems as if the finals will conclude on the 1st of November. However, semifinals and Grand Final are on November 2nd.


https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23189289/
This year we're in the Blizzcon Arena at the cost of the whole event ending in one day instead of two. Finals will be November 1st



Not according to: https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#fri-nov-1 and https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#sat-nov-2

Or is it because it converts automatically to my local time?
Lazzarus
Profile Joined December 2008
Faroe Islands114 Posts
November 01 2019 09:06 GMT
#114
On November 01 2019 18:01 Lazzarus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 12:18 Parrek wrote:
On October 31 2019 22:32 Lazzarus wrote:
I am so hyped for the first ever back-to-back world champion.

I've never understood the blind fanboyism and obsession football (EU) enthusiasts exude - until now...

I'm a Serral fanboy and proud of it!

Edit: "Who will emerge victorious on November 1st and claim StarCraft II's grandest prize?" seems as if the finals will conclude on the 1st of November. However, semifinals and Grand Final are on November 2nd.


https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23189289/
This year we're in the Blizzcon Arena at the cost of the whole event ending in one day instead of two. Finals will be November 1st



Not according to: https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#fri-nov-1 and https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#sat-nov-2

Or is it because it converts automatically to my local time?



https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/552388-wcs-2019-blizzcon-finals-day?view=all - this also says semis and grand final on November 2nd.
Lazzarus
Profile Joined December 2008
Faroe Islands114 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-01 09:13:14
November 01 2019 09:12 GMT
#115
On November 01 2019 18:06 Lazzarus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 18:01 Lazzarus wrote:
On November 01 2019 12:18 Parrek wrote:
On October 31 2019 22:32 Lazzarus wrote:
I am so hyped for the first ever back-to-back world champion.

I've never understood the blind fanboyism and obsession football (EU) enthusiasts exude - until now...

I'm a Serral fanboy and proud of it!

Edit: "Who will emerge victorious on November 1st and claim StarCraft II's grandest prize?" seems as if the finals will conclude on the 1st of November. However, semifinals and Grand Final are on November 2nd.


https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23189289/
This year we're in the Blizzcon Arena at the cost of the whole event ending in one day instead of two. Finals will be November 1st



Not according to: https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#fri-nov-1 and https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#sat-nov-2

Or is it because it converts automatically to my local time?



https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/552388-wcs-2019-blizzcon-finals-day?view=all - this also says semis and grand final on November 2nd.


Must be because I'm EU. Opening ceremony is at 6 p.m. for me and Serral plays at 7 p.m. According to schedule last quarterfinals is done at 00:00. Semis start 12 a.m. November 2nd for me. So excellent schedule for EU.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 01 2019 09:12 GMT
#116
On November 01 2019 18:06 Lazzarus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 18:01 Lazzarus wrote:
On November 01 2019 12:18 Parrek wrote:
On October 31 2019 22:32 Lazzarus wrote:
I am so hyped for the first ever back-to-back world champion.

I've never understood the blind fanboyism and obsession football (EU) enthusiasts exude - until now...

I'm a Serral fanboy and proud of it!

Edit: "Who will emerge victorious on November 1st and claim StarCraft II's grandest prize?" seems as if the finals will conclude on the 1st of November. However, semifinals and Grand Final are on November 2nd.


https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23189289/
This year we're in the Blizzcon Arena at the cost of the whole event ending in one day instead of two. Finals will be November 1st



Not according to: https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#fri-nov-1 and https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#sat-nov-2

Or is it because it converts automatically to my local time?



https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/552388-wcs-2019-blizzcon-finals-day?view=all - this also says semis and grand final on November 2nd.


It starts in the evening of 1st and ends super early in the morning on the 2nd, it's not that hard. (CET here)
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Lazzarus
Profile Joined December 2008
Faroe Islands114 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-01 09:23:21
November 01 2019 09:15 GMT
#117
On November 01 2019 18:12 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 18:06 Lazzarus wrote:
On November 01 2019 18:01 Lazzarus wrote:
On November 01 2019 12:18 Parrek wrote:
On October 31 2019 22:32 Lazzarus wrote:
I am so hyped for the first ever back-to-back world champion.

I've never understood the blind fanboyism and obsession football (EU) enthusiasts exude - until now...

I'm a Serral fanboy and proud of it!

Edit: "Who will emerge victorious on November 1st and claim StarCraft II's grandest prize?" seems as if the finals will conclude on the 1st of November. However, semifinals and Grand Final are on November 2nd.


https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23189289/
This year we're in the Blizzcon Arena at the cost of the whole event ending in one day instead of two. Finals will be November 1st



Not according to: https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#fri-nov-1 and https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#sat-nov-2

Or is it because it converts automatically to my local time?



https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/552388-wcs-2019-blizzcon-finals-day?view=all - this also says semis and grand final on November 2nd.


It starts in the evening of 1st and ends super early in the morning on the 2nd, it's not that hard. (CET here)


Fuck... Didn't read 12 a.m./p.m. properly. All-nighter it is then.

Anglophones - get with the 24 hour clock please
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 01 2019 09:32 GMT
#118
On November 01 2019 18:15 Lazzarus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 18:12 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On November 01 2019 18:06 Lazzarus wrote:
On November 01 2019 18:01 Lazzarus wrote:
On November 01 2019 12:18 Parrek wrote:
On October 31 2019 22:32 Lazzarus wrote:
I am so hyped for the first ever back-to-back world champion.

I've never understood the blind fanboyism and obsession football (EU) enthusiasts exude - until now...

I'm a Serral fanboy and proud of it!

Edit: "Who will emerge victorious on November 1st and claim StarCraft II's grandest prize?" seems as if the finals will conclude on the 1st of November. However, semifinals and Grand Final are on November 2nd.


https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23189289/
This year we're in the Blizzcon Arena at the cost of the whole event ending in one day instead of two. Finals will be November 1st



Not according to: https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#fri-nov-1 and https://blizzcon.com/en-us/schedule#sat-nov-2

Or is it because it converts automatically to my local time?



https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/552388-wcs-2019-blizzcon-finals-day?view=all - this also says semis and grand final on November 2nd.


It starts in the evening of 1st and ends super early in the morning on the 2nd, it's not that hard. (CET here)


Fuck... Didn't read 12 a.m./p.m. properly. All-nighter it is then.

Anglophones - get with the 24 hour clock please


Preach it!
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
November 01 2019 10:20 GMT
#119
Heart: Maru-Serral 4-0
Head: Serral-Dark 4-2
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6834 Posts
November 01 2019 17:55 GMT
#120
On November 01 2019 02:31 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2019 17:46 Harris1st wrote:
On October 31 2019 17:15 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 14:47 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 09:53 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.


Sorry buddy, but the other guy did beat you to it. Lets see if GettingIt replies though, if not I'll happily take you up on it instead .

Oh lovely! Sorry, but I won't be anybody's second choice. I love myself and know the respect I deserve.

I respectfully decline.



My signature sucks anyway. I do it

Serral will reach the finals


We have an accord!


TheDougler bets Serral does not make the finals. If TheDougler wins, Harris1sts signature becomes:

"TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down. "

Harris1st bet he will indeed be a finalist. If Harris1st wins, TheDougler's signature becomes:
"I, The Dougler, bow to the reigning Blizzcon SigBet Champ Harris1st. Also Serral 4 GOAT."

May the best man win the prestigious BlizzCon SigBet championship!

_______

Oh! We should decide on how long it should be. Last year we just did until WCS Spring 2019 I think. But I'd be down with either it being a year-long thing or a signature lost in a sig-bet can only be replaced by a signature won through a sig-bet, or just doing until WCS Spring again or other ideas. Up to you .


We can do this till next Blizzcon WCS finals no problem (which will most definitely happen fingers crossed ^_^) . I also like the idea of replacing a sigbet only with another sigbet
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-06 06:37:15
November 01 2019 19:33 GMT
#121
On November 01 2019 03:36 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 02:31 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 17:46 Harris1st wrote:
On October 31 2019 17:15 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 14:47 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 09:53 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 08:29 TheDougler wrote:
On October 31 2019 05:11 Dave4 wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?

To be clear:
You think Serral won't make finals?
I will signature bet you.



Yes! And awesome! it's a bet .

If I win your signature shall be "TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down "

I'm excited to hear from you what my sig will be if I lose and Serral does make the finals.

Edit:

On October 31 2019 04:36 GettingIt wrote:
On October 31 2019 03:49 opisska wrote:
On October 31 2019 02:49 TheDougler wrote:
Anyone interested in a signature bet? 3 month signature change if Serral makes it to the finals. I'm feeling an upset and had a super fun time with signature bets last year. Anyone want in?


Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


I will do it.


Dang I saw Dave's post first. Hmm, would you two be willing to decide together what my signature will be? It can mention both of you. Otherwise I'll give it to you GettingIt as you commented first and have the higher post count.

Yeah guys, someone brave enough needs to take TheDougler down this year!


You were a great sport last year Opisska, keep being awesome!

I feel de-valued now.


Sorry buddy, but the other guy did beat you to it. Lets see if GettingIt replies though, if not I'll happily take you up on it instead .

Oh lovely! Sorry, but I won't be anybody's second choice. I love myself and know the respect I deserve.

I respectfully decline.



My signature sucks anyway. I do it

Serral will reach the finals


We have an accord!


TheDougler bets Serral does not make the finals. If TheDougler wins, Harris1sts signature becomes:

"TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down. "

Harris1st bet he will indeed be a finalist. If Harris1st wins, TheDougler's signature becomes:
"I, The Dougler, bow to the reigning Blizzcon SigBet Champ Harris1st. Also Serral 4 GOAT."

May the best man win the prestigious BlizzCon SigBet championship!

_______

Oh! We should decide on how long it should be. Last year we just did until WCS Spring 2019 I think. But I'd be down with either it being a year-long thing or a signature lost in a sig-bet can only be replaced by a signature won through a sig-bet, or just doing until WCS Spring again or other ideas. Up to you .

Also, if you can think of a way we can incorporate GettingIt into this it's worth considering:



Looks like I responded too late, but I'll still change my signature to the below if Serral doesn't make finals just so that I can have more reason to root for Serral.

"TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down. "


Maybe loser of the bet between the two of us takes on GettingIt or something (but that arguably lowers the stakes so I could see why that might not be so good) or I could add a bit about GettingIt to my sig if I lose, but then that sort of cheapens your victory if you're sharing the stage with another... So maybe we should just keep it as is, and I look forward to having TWO posters declaring my greatness with every post muahaha. Good luck to us all!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7205 Posts
November 01 2019 20:38 GMT
#122
Matches like that are why I actually enjoy ZvZ, especially when its Serral vs soO!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Locutos
Profile Joined January 2017
Brazil259 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-01 20:39:34
November 01 2019 20:39 GMT
#123
such good games. Game 1 Serral vs Soo so good. So tactical
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
November 02 2019 02:04 GMT
#124
I don't usually brag but if you ignore the map scores I've got everything right so far
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 02 2019 02:07 GMT
#125
On November 02 2019 11:04 Olli wrote:
I don't usually brag but if you ignore the map scores I've got everything right so far


Good prediction so far, but a bit too early to claim victory. It does look very likely right now though.
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
861 Posts
November 02 2019 07:24 GMT
#126
It seems that the probability to have a Zerg winner for this Blizzcon was very very very high...
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 02 2019 08:49 GMT
#127
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6834 Posts
November 04 2019 16:29 GMT
#128
On November 02 2019 17:49 TheOneAboveU wrote:


Congratz mate! You came closest I guess. In the future I will rely solely on your opinion
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
November 06 2019 22:14 GMT
#129
Olli's abilities are unreal!
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
November 07 2019 07:53 GMT
#130
Hey I got 5/7 matches right at least
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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