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Blizzard hides VODs of WCS 2014/2015 Global Final

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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 19:37:21
August 25 2019 11:37 GMT
#1
Life's match VODs of WCS2014 Global finals can not play or be downloaded(private share), and other VODs of WCS2014 can't be searched for.
And WCS2015 VODs can't be searched for too.
However you can find hidden VODs through liquipedia's link.

Blizzard Minitrue?
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
August 25 2019 11:38 GMT
#2
Life's WCS champion was stripped and his flag was gone from the SC2 stage at recent Blizzcons, it's not that surprising.
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 19:25:07
August 25 2019 12:00 GMT
#3
On August 25 2019 20:38 digmouse wrote:
Life's WCS champion was stripped and his flag was gone from the SC2 stage at recent Blizzcons, it's not that surprising.

But why Blizzard hide the whole tournament?
And I found that 2014RB Washington's VOD parts can't be searched too.Only two long video(10 hours and 5 hours) of live streaming can be searched.
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lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
392 Posts
August 25 2019 12:56 GMT
#4
That's sad, both were really cool finals imo.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 25 2019 13:01 GMT
#5
why was Life stripped off his championship? Dood intentionally lost some touranments, but he still WON fair and square when he did.
sad to see the best player ever lose his titles that he rightfully won.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27066 Posts
August 25 2019 13:15 GMT
#6
There’s no VODs of these or are they just unlisted from searching?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
August 25 2019 13:17 GMT
#7
If this is intentional because of Life's crime, I think this is quite exaggerating. I really don't like that erasing-memory-attitude. It kind of reminds me of christians destroying pagan temples, burning books in the dark ages or the IS destroying old babylonian sanctuaries. It's not as severe by far, of course, but this "lets write history new"-thing is... yeah... somewhat dishonest and patronizing.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 25 2019 13:29 GMT
#8
I'm not happy with this decision.

To elaborate, we can judge Life and his character morally for what he has done, which is quite despicable and a betrayal of gaming etiquette.

But at the same time we should separate the player from the man at least in terms of his games. Life's gameplay, when he was on top of it, was remarkable and for a time he truly was the best player. His games should still be view able as, for better or worse, they are part of SC2 history.

Even if you despise the man, you can admire the and what he's done you can admire the player.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27066 Posts
August 25 2019 13:38 GMT
#9
On August 25 2019 22:29 Destructicon wrote:
I'm not happy with this decision.

To elaborate, we can judge Life and his character morally for what he has done, which is quite despicable and a betrayal of gaming etiquette.

But at the same time we should separate the player from the man at least in terms of his games. Life's gameplay, when he was on top of it, was remarkable and for a time he truly was the best player. His games should still be view able as, for better or worse, they are part of SC2 history.

Even if you despise the man, you can admire the and what he's done you can admire the player.

I’m largely OK with him being Voldemort-esque in terms of contemporary broadcasts, erasing the actual past does a disservice to both fans of the game, but also to his rivals back in the day.

Guys like TaeJa and MMA had some of their most iconic series against Life, it detracts from them as well to just delete anything Life related.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7579 Posts
August 25 2019 13:46 GMT
#10
Could there be contractual or legal reasons for doing this?
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 25 2019 13:46 GMT
#11
Blizzard doesn't do things like this for no reason--I assume it's because a very few, very vocal "offended" people made a big enough deal about it that they did this. Really unfortunate, I remember watching that finals live.
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dalecooper
Profile Joined July 2019
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-26 11:17:58
August 25 2019 14:03 GMT
#12
Personally. It was the best finals i have ever seen. 3-3 and last game never forget best memories. It was the peak of (humanity) starcraft 2.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 14:35:30
August 25 2019 14:28 GMT
#13
Removing his titles and honour is entirely fair.

But removing the vods of games is just annoying. Even the final sOs won? one of the most hype series in all of sc2.

Erasing part of sc2 history is wrong. It would be a crime if they got the Life vs DreaM matches removed. Or the Life vs Mvp/Mari/Naniwa/PartinG finals.

edit: so it seems the 2014 matches are private where the 2015 ones are simply unlisted (can be viewed if you have the link)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
August 25 2019 14:31 GMT
#14
This was done a while ago wasnt it? Not sure we really need another thread about this topic.
we should be talkin bout how bisu gonna come back and revitalize the girls in the bw scene ok.
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 19:42:09
August 25 2019 14:43 GMT
#15
On August 25 2019 22:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
There’s no VODs of these or are they just unlisted from searching?

WCS2014 VODs which include Life had been closed(can not watch, can not download).
Other VODs are hidden from search engine of Youtube
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
August 25 2019 14:53 GMT
#16
On August 25 2019 23:31 -Kyo- wrote:
This was done a while ago wasnt it? Not sure we really need another thread about this topic.
we should be talkin bout how bisu gonna come back and revitalize the girls in the bw scene ok.

Emm, I don't know about it, I was searching for video material and found this.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16081 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 15:03:48
August 25 2019 15:01 GMT
#17
This is stupid


On August 25 2019 23:31 -Kyo- wrote:
This was done a while ago wasnt it? Not sure we really need another thread about this topic.
we should be talkin bout how bisu gonna come back and revitalize the girls in the bw scene ok.

This is certainly quite recent. I remember re-watching his series vs TaeJa and MMA maybe a year ago or so
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27066 Posts
August 25 2019 15:29 GMT
#18
On August 26 2019 00:01 Charoisaur wrote:
This is stupid


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On August 25 2019 23:31 -Kyo- wrote:
This was done a while ago wasnt it? Not sure we really need another thread about this topic.
we should be talkin bout how bisu gonna come back and revitalize the girls in the bw scene ok.

This is certainly quite recent. I remember re-watching his series vs TaeJa and MMA maybe a year ago or so

Yeah I did as well, relatively recently.

To pull these from searchability just, sucks. One thing SC2 has over BW is how easy it is to find good quality VODs in English of basically all you could want to.

It removes history from the game, it also harms other players as well. MMA’s post peak runs, Taeja may have not won a GSL but his series’ with Life still are testament to him being amongst the very best. Take away that context and you take away the legacy of other players too.

Despite having a great career afterwards anyway, Bisu’s defining moment, part of his nickname etc was him dismantling Savior, imagine if all those VODs were pulled?

I think it’s perfectly appropriate to not mention Life in current broadcasts, but to pull the history seems wrong. Us veterans may still want to admire his peak play, or new folks might be directed to it.

If I watch the Tour de France now, commentators don’t refer to Lance, or his 7 being the record, but I can still go back and watch his duels with Jan Ulrich et al if I want.

I feel that’s a decent balance between punishing a player who really damaged the overall scene, vs completely erasing the past.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
August 25 2019 15:47 GMT
#19
This 100% unfair to delete, erase Life's accomplishments. Kid won all of those before throwing some matches at KeSPA cup. In all other big sports people do 10x worse things and get away with it like nothing happened. He already got his punishment, why destroy past? Stupid BS.
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NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
August 25 2019 16:04 GMT
#20
What a stupid decision by Blizzard. Take it back.
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