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Blizzard hides VODs of WCS 2014/2015 Global Final - Page 5

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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-28 08:41:45
August 28 2019 08:38 GMT
#81
On August 26 2019 19:57 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Does anyone actually know what happened to Life? I feel bad for him as he screwed up his whole life due to one very bad decision at age 16.

I believe he had dropped out of school to pursue being a pro gamer so I don't think he will have much of work opportunities as education is everything over there. On top of that, googling his name in Korean returns his wiki which talks about his arrest etc. and in Korea they don't believe in redemption or second chances so I assume he is screwed for life.

Also were there any reports as to what happened to the people who had manipulated and bullied him into match fixing? I don't remember reading anything about it.

Edit - I just read a Korean article, apparently he was sentenced to 1 year jail and 3 years probation. So I assume he is still on probation, ending this year.


I mean, he had a suspended sentence so the only time he spent in jail was before/during court appearances. He was also only fined 70 million KRW, the same amount he matchfixed for. So all things considered, I don't imagine Life came out much worse than the average retired progamer. Of course his name is mud within the Starcraft community, but it's not like he was an actor or athlete or other celebrity. Most people wouldn't recognize his name and wouldn't particularly care even if they did.

Presumably he went to the army and then did whatever progamers do afterwards. I guess he has a criminal record, but not a violent one. Not sure how much a criminal record matters for the kind of jobs an ex-progamer would do anyhow.
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kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary485 Posts
August 28 2019 09:11 GMT
#82
On August 28 2019 17:38 pvsnp wrote:


I mean, he had a suspended sentence so the only time he spent in jail was before/during court appearances. He was also only fined 70 million KRW, the same amount he matchfixed for. So all things considered, I don't imagine Life came out much worse than the average retired progamer.


Rumors say he has/had a serious gambling addiction and gambled away all of his earnings and hes literally broke.
Why so serious?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 02 2019 18:11 GMT
#83
On August 28 2019 13:55 Orlok wrote:
Whats kind of funny about this situation is that the Korean cast VODS (Chaester, Canata and Yoo Dae Hyun did their own cast of 2015 global finals in Korean) are all pretty much well and safe on the SPOTV youtube channel. I guess Blizzard just doesn't remember this? Hopefully it stays that way, I always want to be able to see sOs win his second Blizzcon title via vods.


Could you please provide these links for those of us who can't read Korean? Thanks
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
November 02 2019 19:08 GMT
#84
If true this is disgusting and I hope it has the opposite effect. I hope ppl will provide extra links and make these games even more visible and famous, because of their feel of need to suppress it.

Even if you've somehow come to the conclusion that it'd be better that we all forget about Life existing, it's absolutely unfair for all of the other attendees of the tournament, what about the 2nd place finisher, is it fair that visibility of his achievement is removed just because of this one player?

I also think it's important that we keep Life in mind, so that we make sure that this doesn't happen in the future.

I also just happen to think that fostering taboo about this whole situation is wrong, first of all our history is just less genuine in our discourse. 2nd of all we don't learn from our mistakes. 3rd of all when people ask: "when can Life play again?", it's not like it's a stupid question. Ofc we can all interpret that he's banned for Life, but without any official statement, if we don't ask the question, he will have been wronged. Lets say that internally Blizz has discussed this and they agreed that in 10 years he can play again, well if we don't ask the question, we would just assume that it's for life and in that case, in 10 years he could simply not play, because it has become our perception that he's just banned for Life. We have no idea, if he would be allowed to play in WC4?, there really should be some official statement, so that we don't jump at each others throats when discussing this.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
November 03 2019 00:25 GMT
#85
On August 28 2019 13:55 Orlok wrote:
Whats kind of funny about this situation is that the Korean cast VODS (Chaester, Canata and Yoo Dae Hyun did their own cast of 2015 global finals in Korean) are all pretty much well and safe on the SPOTV youtube channel. I guess Blizzard just doesn't remember this? Hopefully it stays that way, I always want to be able to see sOs win his second Blizzcon title via vods.

And yeah, this decision really is overkill. We know Life is a litte piece of garbage who sold out the entire SC2 scene for money despite being a successful star, but we can still remove that persona from the player that he was and enjoy that without any killjoy.


Also you're doing a huge disservice to the other pro players who played their heart out against life and deserves to be recognized.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
November 03 2019 05:30 GMT
#86
Fuck Life and fuck anyone who still likes or defends Life. Take all his matches down.

User was warned for this post.
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
November 03 2019 07:31 GMT
#87
On November 03 2019 14:30 showstealer1829 wrote:
Fuck Life and fuck anyone who still likes or defends Life. Take all his matches down.



You are beyond ridiculous.

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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
November 03 2019 08:37 GMT
#88
On November 03 2019 14:30 showstealer1829 wrote:
Fuck Life and fuck anyone who still likes or defends Life. Take all his matches down.

I'm not allowed to watch sOs winning his 2nd Blizzcon?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
November 06 2019 16:42 GMT
#89
On November 03 2019 14:30 showstealer1829 wrote:
Fuck Life and fuck anyone who still likes or defends Life. Take all his matches down.

User was warned for this post.

?
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 06 2019 16:48 GMT
#90
On November 03 2019 14:30 showstealer1829 wrote:
Fuck Life and fuck anyone who still likes or defends Life. Take all his matches down.

User was warned for this post.

Well I might want to see his past games from time to time, so I remind myself that a lot of people overrate him compared to some present zergs, so it can be nice being able to watch some old vods.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 06 2019 18:11 GMT
#91
On November 03 2019 14:30 showstealer1829 wrote:
Fuck Life and fuck anyone who still likes or defends Life. Take all his matches down.

User was warned for this post.

I can support the sentiment of "fuck Life", but taking down some of the greatest starcraft series of all time is a crime.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 06 2019 18:11 GMT
#92
On November 03 2019 17:37 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2019 14:30 showstealer1829 wrote:
Fuck Life and fuck anyone who still likes or defends Life. Take all his matches down.

I'm not allowed to watch sOs winning his 2nd Blizzcon?

sOs isn't even allowed to watch himself winning that blizzcon
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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