EPTSC2 Power Rank: August 2019 - Page 2
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Shathe
Hungary422 Posts
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Duceman
United States87 Posts
No one has beaten Dark and he’s still playing, so that’s fine I guess. herO seems too high to me, but that is what it is. Innovation is only on here because he’s got a ton of history. | ||
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stilt
France2754 Posts
I mean, top 2 could be fine but stats played so amazingly to beat him that I think he should be above him. | ||
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Kitai
United States878 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 09 2019 00:17 stilt wrote: For once, I feel like you overestimated serral xD I mean, top 2 could be fine but stats played so amazingly to beat him that I think he should be above him. Previous power rankings are taken into consideration. | ||
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Moonerz
United States459 Posts
On August 09 2019 00:04 Duceman wrote: I feel like even though they’re nowhere near as stacked, winning WCS by beating Serral probably should put you in the rankings. No one has beaten Dark and he’s still playing, so that’s fine I guess. herO seems too high to me, but that is what it is. Innovation is only on here because he’s got a ton of history. The same Reynor who didnt make it out of group stages at ROG? Also the same guy that got absolutely dumpstered by Maru who did the same build every single game? Hes improving but hes not there yet. | ||
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Creo1
3 Posts
On August 08 2019 19:33 MockHamill wrote: I do not think I can argue with that ranking - except I think Reynor belongs in the top 10. If you can beat Serral you belong in the top 10 by default. So what you are saying is, that Demuslim should be in the top 10 as well? | ||
Waxangel
United States33494 Posts
On August 09 2019 00:37 Xain0n wrote: Previous power rankings are taken into consideration. I've always said that most PR disputes boil down to the exact amount of past credit people feel like a player deserves  | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 09 2019 01:00 Waxangel wrote: I've always said that most PR disputes boil down to the exact amount of past credit people feel like a player deserves Players who have won many championships in the past usually have the potential to keep doing it, so it makes sense. The idea of a PR should be an indication of who's most likely to win a championship if one was played this month. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33494 Posts
On August 09 2019 01:21 Fango wrote: Players who have won many championships in the past usually have the potential to keep doing it, so it makes sense. The idea of a PR should be an indication of who's most likely to win a championship if one was played this month. To prove my own point, I disagree While I think some people might prefer a version of the PR where Maru and Serral were top two for an entire year, I like the inclusion of just enough 'what have you done for me lately?' to keep things moving. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4958 Posts
On August 09 2019 01:39 Waxangel wrote: To prove my own point, I disagree While I think some people might prefer a version of the PR where Maru and Serral were top two for an entire year, I like the inclusion of just enough 'what have you done for me lately?' to keep things moving. Well then, Stats is top 2 for sure and Solar is a bit up | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 09 2019 01:56 Argonauta wrote: Well then, Stats is top 2 for sure and Solar is a bit up He said "just enough", not "almost entirely". | ||
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2216 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On August 08 2019 23:02 Harris1st wrote: With a loss to Creator and a map loss to Keen... that really doesnt cry for #2 EDIT: I would even go so far an put Stats #3 and Classic #4 Meanwhile Serral almost lost to Time | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
My ranking would be: 1. Dark; 2. Stats; 3. Trap; 4. Classic; 5. Serral; 6. Solar; 7. Maru etc. Reynor truly has no place in the top 10. He only got the mention because he beat Serral. His ZvT and ZvP are good for WCS standards, but very sub-par for GSL standard. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 09 2019 01:39 Waxangel wrote: To prove my own point, I disagree While I think some people might prefer a version of the PR where Maru and Serral were top two for an entire year, I like the inclusion of just enough 'what have you done for me lately?' to keep things moving. Obiously should be a factor. But even if Maru or Serral don't play any relevent matches for a month, I'd still put them higher than say a Trap or Solar, who have been on fire but don't have the history. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26155 Posts
On August 09 2019 04:10 MarianoSC2 wrote: Serral should be barely top 5 this time imo. His play against the real opposition (and Reynor) has quite diminished his unbreakable status. Yes he won HSC (barely), but then lost to Reynor, Stats and was very lucky not to get swept by Time 3:0. My ranking would be: 1. Dark; 2. Stats; 3. Trap; 4. Classic; 5. Serral; 6. Solar; 7. Maru etc. Reynor truly has no place in the top 10. He only got the mention because he beat Serral. His ZvT and ZvP are good for WCS standards, but very sub-par for GSL standard. What real opposition is this? In the relatively recent past he’s taken out soO and TY at HSC, he convincingly beat Inno in brackets at ASUS ROG. Stats and Serral probably have the most similar recent results of anyone in this list, a title apiece in tournaments and a top 4 and top 6 respectively where they both played, runner up and Ro16 in the most recent action in their circuit tournament. Stats probably shades it due to triumphing whenever they’ve met in tournaments recently, I don’t think there’s much of gap otherwise. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 09 2019 04:42 Wombat_NI wrote: What real opposition is this? In the relatively recent past he’s taken out soO and TY at HSC, he convincingly beat Inno in brackets at ASUS ROG. Stats and Serral probably have the most similar recent results of anyone in this list, a title apiece in tournaments and a top 4 and top 6 respectively where they both played, runner up and Ro16 in the most recent action in their circuit tournament. Stats probably shades it due to triumphing whenever they’ve met in tournaments recently, I don’t think there’s much of gap otherwise. Granted, I value Serral very high because he does not seem to have slump periods like other pros. But when the other top pros are in form (Inno and soO at the start of the year, Stats now), they seem to beat him in those periods. I would be very intrested how Serral would perform if he had 1 year in GSL. If he would make RO8 consistently, or seem to struggle at times as well against better opposition. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On August 09 2019 04:56 MarianoSC2 wrote: Granted, I value Serral very high because he does not seem to have slump periods like other pros. But when the other top pros are in form (Inno and soO at the start of the year, Stats now), they seem to beat him in those periods. I would be very intrested how Serral would perform if he had 1 year in GSL. If he would make RO8 consistently, or seem to struggle at times as well against better opposition. Yea, and when Serral is in form, he just never loses "Almost losing" is just like "almost winning", it doesn't really count. | ||
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Xamo
Spain881 Posts
If it is to be read as who we think has more probabilities to win GSL vs the World, I would have swapped some names in the top 6: Maru with Classic and Stats with Trap. | ||
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