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AlphaStar released: Deepmind Research on Ladder - Page 6

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Ronski
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland266 Posts
July 14 2019 17:13 GMT
#101
On July 14 2019 00:34 Edpayasugo wrote:
So does it play random or rotates through the races?


If its anything like the showmatches in the past there are probably multiple different alphastar "agents" playing the ladder at the same time during their testing. Agent 1 might be playing as terran, agent 2 as protoss and so forth, each with their own strategies. Getting matched with the same agent multiple times in a row wont make it change anything, it will be just like facing the same player on the ladder multiple times in a row except the agent will show less variety in its style.
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BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
July 14 2019 21:06 GMT
#102
No new infos here...
I would not be surprised if the ai team were to take care of the chat, and maybe also the gg timing. It would make sense if the total number of games were in the hundreds which I believe they will be.
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
July 15 2019 03:41 GMT
#103
Why is this thread so slow, this is huge and really cool.

Also, I don't see why there wouldn't be more than hundreds of games total because they're apparently going to have many different agents on the ladder? And each of those should play plenty of games. Pros play like 30-40 games in just a single day.
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
July 15 2019 06:57 GMT
#104
it will ascend quickly until it gets waylaid in cheese purgatory
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-15 14:08:13
July 15 2019 14:08 GMT
#105
Turns out, It's all a big social experiment, to see if GM's start behaving better or worse on the ladder.
Or to pull more people to play..
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
July 16 2019 23:49 GMT
#106
Why is this thread so slow, this is huge and really cool.


Unfortunately we have so little info that there's just not much to talk about right now. I'm dying for the replay pack that they're going to release though. I had so much fun watching all of the replays from the showmatches earlier this year.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26795 Posts
July 17 2019 00:29 GMT
#107
They won’t be truly sentient until they can BM and balance whine with the rest of them.

I imagine the Protoss iterations of AlphaStar will behave with the class and decorum typical of Protoss players, not so confident about those Z and T ones though
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7535 Posts
July 17 2019 00:40 GMT
#108
The idea of a zerg with a thousand eyes... sounds terrifying.

I imagine we will see some 1 2 3 punch your dead zerg tech switches.

In my mind, I see a Dark with better scouting.

My big guess.... pool first in every matchup. Or gas-pool.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5532 Posts
July 18 2019 20:54 GMT
#109
How the hell do we not have an ID or replay yet??
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NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
July 18 2019 22:42 GMT
#110
On July 19 2019 05:54 jimminy_kriket wrote:
How the hell do we not have an ID or replay yet??


Maybe it's not actually playing ladder yet and they just sent out the opt-in/opt-out message option early. They want to keep it anonymous, so it seems likely they'd throw Alphastar on there later when people aren't expecting it. Everyone is expecting it on ladder the first week when they see that message.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2656 Posts
July 18 2019 23:01 GMT
#111
On July 19 2019 05:54 jimminy_kriket wrote:
How the hell do we not have an ID or replay yet??


They wan't it to be anonymous, wich makes a lot of sense, if its opponent knew its AlphaStar they would start doing weird shit on purpose and it would corrupts its learning process.

Internet has a history of fucking up AIs after all.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26795 Posts
July 19 2019 01:01 GMT
#112
On July 19 2019 05:54 jimminy_kriket wrote:
How the hell do we not have an ID or replay yet??

They’ve so successfully taught it how to BM properly that nobody has yet even suspected they’re playing an AI?
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7202 Posts
July 19 2019 09:31 GMT
#113
On July 19 2019 08:01 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2019 05:54 jimminy_kriket wrote:
How the hell do we not have an ID or replay yet??


They wan't it to be anonymous, wich makes a lot of sense, if its opponent knew its AlphaStar they would start doing weird shit on purpose and it would corrupts its learning process.

Internet has a history of fucking up AIs after all.


It is not learning, just testing
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18291 Posts
July 19 2019 10:27 GMT
#114
On July 19 2019 18:31 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2019 08:01 Lexender wrote:
On July 19 2019 05:54 jimminy_kriket wrote:
How the hell do we not have an ID or replay yet??


They wan't it to be anonymous, wich makes a lot of sense, if its opponent knew its AlphaStar they would start doing weird shit on purpose and it would corrupts its learning process.

Internet has a history of fucking up AIs after all.


It is not learning, just testing

It'd screw up tests too, though.
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
July 19 2019 12:26 GMT
#115
They should also train a neural network model dedicated for natural language processing for Alphastar to learn trashtalk.
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
July 19 2019 14:40 GMT
#116
It would screw up the tests... such as people flying empty Warp prisms near the Base of the AI, and the AI getting confused
(like we saw)
Many more weird strategies or actions will be certain to pop up.

That's why they have to keep it low-key to get useful information
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7202 Posts
July 24 2019 15:25 GMT
#117
Soooo are we any further on the b.net ID's of Alphastar ?
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10721 Posts
July 24 2019 15:27 GMT
#118
Woah wow, what MMR is it playing at?
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FrashQ
Profile Joined November 2011
53 Posts
July 24 2019 15:28 GMT
#119
Zerg: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/8789693/1/IIIIIIlIIIIl/
Protoss: http://sc2replaystats.com/player/2704505
Terran: http://sc2replaystats.com/player/2704467
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
July 24 2019 15:40 GMT
#120
There's already some replays. Someone posted a few days ago about finding a suspicious bot
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/cgvu6r/i_played_against_alphastardeepmind/
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