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AlphaStar released: Deepmind Research on Ladder

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 18:20:33
July 10 2019 17:47 GMT
#1
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Image taken from Starcraft2.com


AlphaStar is ready to steal your points on the EU server!

Starting today, players will be able to opt in under the versus tab and battle the AI on the 1v1 ladder (if you are lucky). Multiple agents will be playing anonymously to test their skills against the human race.

The AI is now able to play all matchups and can play the current patch. Matches against Alphastar will affect your MMR. You can alter your opt-in selection at any point!

Get the full info and read the FAQ here.
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Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 17:57:28
July 10 2019 17:56 GMT
#2
This is cool beyond belief. I wonder if it only will learn the gameplay part or if it will learn ladder BM part as well.

Imagine an AI that not only will manner mule you but tells you to go fuck yourself as well.
Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
July 10 2019 17:59 GMT
#3
Great news, i hope it's not the older version that did beat mana, that could see every spot on the map where it had visión at all times, and could even spot the blur from invisible units the same way.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 10 2019 18:02 GMT
#4
On July 11 2019 02:59 Rantech wrote:
Great news, i hope it's not the older version that did beat mana, that could see every spot on the map where it had visión at all times, and could even spot the blur from invisible units the same way.


Nope, they adjusted it and it seems more fair now.

Q. How does AlphaStar perceive the game?

A. Like human players, AlphaStar perceives the game using a camera-like view. This means that AlphaStar doesn’t receive information about its opponent unless it is within the camera’s field of view, and it can only move units to locations within its view. All limits on AlphaStar’s performance were designed in consultation with pro players.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
ImmortalGhost
Profile Joined April 2019
United States57 Posts
July 10 2019 18:03 GMT
#5
What mmr range can the alphastar anonymous players be found? I doubt that researchers care about wins versus beginner players.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 18:07:17
July 10 2019 18:06 GMT
#6
On July 11 2019 03:03 ImmortalGhost wrote:
What mmr range can the alphastar anonymous players be found? I doubt that researchers care about wins versus beginner players.

I guess they will rank up naturally, starting from placement matches.

But officialy there is no information about this afaik.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DrunkenSCV
Profile Joined November 2016
76 Posts
July 10 2019 18:13 GMT
#7
So the war against the machines has begun...
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-10 18:18:16
July 10 2019 18:15 GMT
#8
Great to hear that AlphaStar can play all 9 matchups now, it sounds like the team is making some nice progress. Hopefully there will be a big showcase or showmatch at Blizzcon.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 10 2019 18:21 GMT
#9
Sarah Connor needs to tweet this

SkyNet is coming!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation400 Posts
July 10 2019 18:27 GMT
#10
wow this is awesome!! I'd love to see some of the games
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4033 Posts
July 10 2019 18:37 GMT
#11
i wonder how they adjust AlphaStars performance when matching it vs a bronze and vs a GM
Drone is a way of living
slimbo1
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany228 Posts
July 10 2019 18:49 GMT
#12
i dont like this and choosed the opt-out option. I like to play versus other humans
sugarmuffinpuff
Profile Joined October 2014
Canada38 Posts
July 10 2019 18:52 GMT
#13
I only play opponents whose mothers I can insult when I lose.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
July 10 2019 19:04 GMT
#14
Brb changing my ID to AlphaStar for intimidation factor
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Quasarrion
Profile Joined July 2018
60 Posts
July 10 2019 19:06 GMT
#15
Imagine, if they made a tournament alphastar vs the world, similar format to gsl vs the world. Pick the best 8 players and fight for the human race. If they win they get 50 k.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 10 2019 19:06 GMT
#16
Very interesting. And they've adjusted the APM cap, so we hopefully shouldn't see AlphaStar spike to 1000 APM and simultaneously micro stalkers all over the map during big fights anymore.
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
July 10 2019 19:13 GMT
#17
Bot/hacking report threads will be swarmed with new posts
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
July 10 2019 19:47 GMT
#18
I thought MaxPax has been terrorizing the ladder for a while now
very illegal and very uncool
ClaudeSc2
Profile Joined May 2014
United States73 Posts
July 10 2019 20:52 GMT
#19
I would be all about this, but against Mana it looked like a primitive micro bot - controlling 50 stalkers across 4 screens at once - ended up losing a game to him walking it's army in and out of its base over and over again because it didn't have vision of his camping warp prism.

I also don't play on EU...so I guess I don't even have the option.
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
July 10 2019 21:22 GMT
#20
I would be all about this, but against Mana it looked like a primitive micro bot - controlling 50 stalkers across 4 screens at once - ended up losing a game to him walking it's army in and out of its base over and over again because it didn't have vision of his camping warp prism.


There was definitely something wrong with the AI in that last match, but overall the description of AlphaStar as being just a primitive micro bot is very unfair. I think the matches against TLO prove handily that AlphaStar has high level reasoning and decision making ablity, and understands well how to play Starcraft 2 in a comprehensive manner.

It will be interesting to see how the new version does on the ladder. It apparently has more mechanical limitations than the version that went 10-0 against TLO and Mana in the non-public matches.
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