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On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic
You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. Trap has definitely proven that he can take games off of players at the absolute highest levels, and while I do expect Dark to take this one, it won't be absolutely shocking if Trap pulls the upset.
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Traps PvZ has been beast mode before, I trust Trap to take this. Consider that Dark has already showed His ZvP plans thoroughly, that is a real edge for Trap.
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On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. Trap has definitely proven that he can take games off of players at the absolute highest levels, and while I do expect Dark to take this one, it won't be absolutely shocking if Trap pulls the upset.
No but making him a top tier player because of online wins is ridiculous.
It's not that he is underrated, it's more he hasn't a lot of wins on big stages.
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On June 21 2019 18:56 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. Trap has definitely proven that he can take games off of players at the absolute highest levels, and while I do expect Dark to take this one, it won't be absolutely shocking if Trap pulls the upset. No but making him a top tier player because of online wins is ridiculous. It's not that he is underrated, it's more he hasn't a lot of wins on big stages.
100% agree, but I think that when he's been posting these kinds of results online for years and we now see it starting to translate over to the big stage, to write him off as having absolutely zero chance is really unfair.
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On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over.
>Prize pool: $250
I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up.
Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous
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On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. >Prize pool: $250 I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up. Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous
I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least.
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I want trap to win just so that people get mad
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On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. >Prize pool: $250 I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up. Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least. .
Slight chanche? Upset? Have you been paying attention to Trap's result in 2019? Dark is probably the favourite but chanches are about even, 4/5 of people predicting Dark to win seems like underrating Trap to me.
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On June 21 2019 20:42 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. >Prize pool: $250 I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up. Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least. . Slight chanche? Upset? Have you been paying attention to Trap's result in 2019? Dark is probably the favourite but chanches are about even, 4/5 of people predicting Dark to win seems like underrating Trap to me.
You misquoted.
A majority of ppl thinks it's 50/50 or slightly in favor of Dark.
But a majority of ppl want to see Dark win for quite obvious reason hence the poll, no need to cry about how he is underrated.
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On June 21 2019 20:46 stilt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 20:42 Xain0n wrote:On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. >Prize pool: $250 I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up. Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least. . Slight chanche? Upset? Have you been paying attention to Trap's result in 2019? Dark is probably the favourite but chanches are about even, 4/5 of people predicting Dark to win seems like underrating Trap to me. You misquoted. A majority of ppl thinks it's 50/50 or slightly in favor of Dark. But a majority of ppl want to see Dark win for quite obvious reason hence the poll, no need to cry about it.
Yes and no, didn't want to quote two consecutive comments in the same conversation. The first half is for Need, the last part is for you(Trap being undervalued in my opinion).
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Dark has the experience and Trap has the entire JAGW team to back him up. Even if Trap loses the finals, he's still made great progress getting to that point.
Best of luck to both of them, looking forward to an interesting finals.
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i dunno i've always thought trap was kind of Meh. 2018 got carried by carrier storm and now with all the protoss buffs.. can just be protoss.. lool.
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Canada8989 Posts
Great preview, you almost made me believe in Trap, but I think the mental block will comeback in the final
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On June 21 2019 20:42 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 19:43 stilt wrote:On June 21 2019 19:33 Need wrote:On June 21 2019 18:50 Psychonian wrote:On June 21 2019 18:02 Need wrote:
I wasn't sure Trap had it, but now that I know he's won Olimoleagues and KungFu Cops I'm sold. This read like low-quality fanfic You really can't write off the kinds of opponents you face in tournaments like Olimoleague. Those tournaments are seriously stacked with top tier Korean players, and winning 6 of them is absolutely not something to be looked over. >Prize pool: $250 I can only imagine the preparation and hard work that goes into those games, especially when you have premier tournaments coming up. Sure Trap has a slight chance to pull an upset, but the write-up in the OP is ridiculous I'd say the chances are about even actually, but still, I don't think Trap is underrated by the majority of the community, not in the same way as Classic was at least. . Slight chanche? Upset?
Yes? Check the betting odds on any website. If he has even chances of winning, then congrats for being smarter than the entire betting market. Or if you prefer algorithms over markets, check Aligulac.
Good for you that you believe in Trap, but being shocked someone claims it'd be an upset or he has a slight chance is just being disconnected from reality
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I didn't realise Trap was underrated. I certainly feel like seeing him advance to high finishes over players I care more about is a familiar feeling. But looking at his results, that was longer ago than it felt.
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Trap beat Classic so he can beat Dark. Or can he?
Traps ability to keep composure after the failed cannon rush was great. But is he strong enough to beat Dark? I guess Dark wins 4-2.
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I don't know why everyone seemed to favour INno in that match. He'd done nothing all year to suggest his TvP was good enough, and Trap had already beaten him and TY multiple times in GSL.
People were outraged on reddit when INno lost even though Trap should have been the heavy favourite.
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Great article Gemini
I do think this finals is closer than most people think but it would be great to see Dark take it
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On June 21 2019 15:42 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2019 15:35 FataLe wrote:
Remember when Trap got to a kespa cup final with which he received little to no credit for. Neeb remembers. He also won an MLG ^_^
Polt only needed two games in that finals to win and Trap still 4-0'd him.
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Bisutopia19223 Posts
Is Trap really an underdog given the meta? A month ago most people thought Protoss was OP and Zerg had no chance. To be honest I certainly thought Protoss could destroy any Zerg in the GSL until seeing Dark's performance. But still, Trap is an excellent player and can execute Warp Prism death marches very effectively.
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