• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:10
CEST 07:10
KST 14:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding3Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2533 users

Challonge Breakdown by CranKy Ducklings

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
CranKy Ducklings
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
534 Posts
June 20 2019 14:55 GMT
#1
[image loading]



CranKy Ducklings’ Challonge Breakdown

by Light_VIP & Kuro



Purpose



CranKy Ducklings has been approached by various tournament bracket developers to provide input on how to improve upon currently existing services. The goal of this report is to conduct a deep dive into tournament bracket websites in an attempt to find ways in which to improve upon them.



Tournament Organisations



Challonge offers a feature to create Organisations which can be managed by multiple users. They act as a hub with a main page with a custom URL which includes a short description, links, members and upcoming tournaments.

Members have access to set up and edit tournaments. Giving them Admin status allows them to add new members to the organisation.

Changes we would make to Members and their status’ include adding 3 levels of privileges:
  • Managers with full access to everything, no additional rights for the owner (in case they go inactive, the organisation can function normally),
  • Organisers - can create, manage and admin tournaments,
  • Admins - can admin tournaments (manage check in and brackets, add scores, DQ players etc.).


Overview Tab Layout

[image loading]

The overview page should display only upcoming tournaments with the one with the closest starting date at the top.

The sidebar of the overview page should have an option to include text links to tournament series. Those links would take the user to separate page with tournaments filtered only by that series and possibly a logo and short description of the series at the top/sidebar.

The members of the organisation should be displayed separately according to their access level.

The description on Overview and other pages should have at least basic formatting options such as bold, cursive or adding hyperlinks. (tournament descriptions have these formatting options) It would be possible to skip the hyperlinks if there was an option to add custom URL as social link icons, adding a Liquipedia icon for example.


Tournaments Tab

[image loading]

The tournaments tab should display all tournaments created by the organisation (including those that are part of a tournament series) with the ability to filter by closed, check in, open registration, tournament series and the option to order ascending/descending by starting date, creation date (by default, they should be ordered descending by starting date).


Leaderboards

[image loading]

Current Challonge leaderboards are using ELO type of rating which doesn’t provide useful information. There is no reason for challonge users not to be tracked and have all their tournament wins/placements displayed and ranked accordingly. The page should list all tournament winners ordered by the number of championships earned. There could also be a point based ranking e.g. Ro16 finish earns 1 point, Ro8 finish 2 points and so on.
This leaderboard should also have the option to filter by tournament series


Organisation Technicalities

The followers of the organisation should be notified about newly created tournament brackets. The platform for notifications should be selected in preferences (e.g. email / website / none) and followers should have the ability to customise their notifications for each organisation separately. In addition, it would be convenient to have an option to not receive notifications about particular tournament series or game.



Tournament Creation



The tournament creation page allows the user to choose what organisation they are making the tournament as well as tournament name, custom URL, fully formatted description, game, tournament format, type of sign ups (open, invite only, free/paid etc.), check in and bracket options. It is also possible to add an admin who is not part of the hosting organisation.


Hosting a Tournament

There should be an option to choose admins for the particular event from the list of the organisation’s members with the possibility to manually add users from outside the organisation. Those admins would be displayed on the main overview page of the bracket.

Currently, the user who created the bracket is listed as an organizer of the tournament (separate from host). It would make more sense to have an option to display them as organiser instead of doing so by default.


Tournament Formats

Currently Challonge supports Single and Double Elimination, Round Robin, Swiss and Free For All. They also support 2 stage tournaments, the Group Stage can have players ordered by match wins, game/set wins, game/set win %, points scored, points difference and custom point systems.

An easy way to implement qualifier formats, would be to add an option to close a match by marking it as “qualified”. That means that no score needs to be submitted for that match for the tournament results to be finalised. Qualified players would be at the top of the standings with either 1st place or Q(ualified) next to their name.



Tournament Brackets



The tournament brackets include all the necessary information for participating players. The top bar displays the tournament format, game, start time (can be displayed in your selected timezone) and check in time, as well as the host of the tournament. Below is the full description of the event, a registration (and later check in) button and the preview of tournament bracket. Each round of the tournament has a separate label that can be edited (e.g. that’s how the starting maps are added).

[image loading]

A useful feature to add would be an option to select/submit contact link(s) such as a Discord invite that would be displayed together with other information at the top.

To improve the visual aspect of the tournament page, the host should be able to add a custom banner for the header. A bonus option would be the ability to also select from images previously used by the organisation.

It would be useful to display the number of signed up players as well as checked in players.

As mentioned in previous section, the main bracket page should list the admins for the tournament.

Challonge has the functionality to add streams as stations. With that system, the matches can be assigned to streams for casting. The stream links are displayed on the bracket when the match is in progress.



Admining the Tournament



[image loading]

If the website is StarCraft focused, some features of the Liquipedia brackets could be implemented such as player races, flags, team logos. For race icons in particular, by default the selected race would apply for the whole tournament, however an option would need to be included for players who switch races inbetween series.

Currently, Challonge allows the admins to mark a match as “in progress” highlighting it on the brackets. The admins are also able to add scores during the match by inserting current result without selecting the winner.

[image loading]

Something that would greatly improve the workflow for the admins would be adding an option to mark walkovers in the match score menu (accessible by clicking on an icon next to the match on the brackets), similarly to the “qualified” option mentioned earlier. It’s important to note that marking that option would give a walkover only for that particular series. It’s especially convenient for group stage tournaments running over a long period of time when walkover in a single match isn’t necessarily disqualifying the player from further competition. This feature should work in addition to the option of disqualifying the player from the rest of the tournament.

Both the qualified and the walkover marks should be easy to find in an API.

It could be useful to add an option for players to upload replays for particular match. Those replays would be only accessible by the tournament admins (and organisation managers).

Currently letsplay.live (previously cybergamer) have the functionality for players to submit vetoes and select map order for their current open matches (ABAB ABC). Players are given 15 minutes to enter their first veto and 5 minutes for every following veto/map pick. Failure to submit a veto could trigger an alert so admins can look into the situation and verify a potential walkover.
Adding this feature would require tournament organisers to allocate a specified map pool to each tournament/tournament series. lets play.live just use the current map pool as they host their own league.



Teams



Challonge’s team feature is very lacking. A better example would be the Russian Federation Cyber Sport website where each team has their own page including description, player roster, team results, tournament statistics etc. The team is listed on the profile page of each member and is added to their name on tournament brackets. Obviously, the visual aspects can be improved upon but the idea behind the feature is solid.

[image loading]
[image loading]



User Profiles



Challonge user profiles are very basic, listing all tournaments the user ever hosted or signed up for.

The user profile should display a list (separated or filtered) of tournaments organised and tournaments they participated in. It should also include (possibly on a sidebar) their selected country, team and organisation(s) they are part of.

In addition, it would be convenient to allow players to select more than 1 country in case of dual citizenship. They would also have to select which flag will be displayed on the bracket of particular tournament.



Writing: Light_VIP & Kuro | Editing: Kuro



More From CranKy Ducklings



[image loading]
CranKy Ducklings
[image loading]
CranKy Clan

[image loading]
@CranKyDucklings
[image loading]
CranKy_Ducklings
[image loading]
CranKy Ducklings Discord
( * )< QUACK | Broadcasting events on Twitch, YouTube & more! | Social links: linktr.ee/CranKyDucklings | Discord: discord.gg/vYkFEE8 | Patreon: patreon.com/CranKyDucklings
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 21 2019 00:41 GMT
#2
How do you even build the sort of reputation that makes tournament bracket developers approach you?

That question aside, I'm impressed by the amount of thought that went into this.
Light_VIP
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia108 Posts
June 21 2019 06:40 GMT
#3
On June 21 2019 09:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
How do you even build the sort of reputation that makes tournament bracket developers approach you?

That question aside, I'm impressed by the amount of thought that went into this.


The first time we were approached we just had bullet points, but after a few times we decided to go all out and make a proper documentation of everything we had come up with.
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1219 Posts
June 21 2019 09:33 GMT
#4
On June 21 2019 09:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
How do you even build the sort of reputation that makes tournament bracket developers approach you?

Well, mostly organising consistent tournaments, exploring all available features, teaching others how to use them and sharing feedback/issues
|| SC2 Info Fairy || Co-founder of CranKy Ducklings || All my links: linktr.ee/16thsquadsanseki ||
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
June 22 2019 19:04 GMT
#5
Far too much work for this to be a blog. Let’s move it to SC2 General.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1223 Posts
June 22 2019 19:38 GMT
#6
wow, good job
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1219 Posts
June 22 2019 21:54 GMT
#7
On June 23 2019 04:04 Seeker wrote:
Far too much work for this to be a blog. Let’s move it to SC2 General.

Thank you :o
|| SC2 Info Fairy || Co-founder of CranKy Ducklings || All my links: linktr.ee/16thsquadsanseki ||
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
00:00
TLMC #22: Map Judging #2
CranKy Ducklings39
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 126
ROOTCatZ 79
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6702
firebathero 708
Pusan 156
Tasteless 139
Leta 138
Icarus 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm97
League of Legends
JimRising 690
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K690
Other Games
summit1g11126
C9.Mang0498
PiGStarcraft203
Mew2King115
Maynarde88
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV184
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH187
• practicex 33
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1631
• Rush1270
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
5h 50m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 4h
WardiTV Team League
1d 5h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 9h
BSL
1d 13h
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
BSL
2 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.