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kaby
Russian Federation195 Posts
![[image loading]](https://s.starladder.com/uploads/ckeditor/elfinder/StarCraft/WCS/2_seeding_1.png) ![[image loading]](https://s.starladder.com/uploads/ckeditor/elfinder/StarCraft/WCS/2_seeding_2.png) WCS Challenger winners have also received their Group Stage 3 opponents: remember that two more players will join each group after Group Stage 2 finishes. Tournament Format video ![[image loading]](https://s.starladder.com/uploads/ckeditor/elfinder/StarCraft/WCS/seeding_3.png) The tournament starts already on Friday - best of luck to every WCS Spring participant! Original post by StarLadder View on Liquipedia 
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Legan
Finland442 Posts
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MyiPtitDrogo
28 Posts
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kell234
Russian Federation44 Posts
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franzji
United States583 Posts
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On May 16 2019 03:31 MyiPtitDrogo wrote: I'm 3rd place of Seed 1 and playing the 1st place of Seed 2, Amazing seeding gaming We need French blood. | ||
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Elmonti
Spain299 Posts
On May 16 2019 04:11 youngjiddle wrote: fuck Ukraine (your geopolitical tensions, not your people!) You shouldn't talk like that. Both because it's disrespectful and because you seem to know nothing about what's happening there. | ||
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Executer08
Germany163 Posts
On May 16 2019 04:11 youngjiddle wrote: fuck Ukraine (your geopolitical tensions, not your people!) i'd argue thats less ukraine's "fault". i also think with the new loser bracket system this event will still be "better" than past WCS' and motivate people who have a tough first group to still show up and give it their best, especially as you then face a more equal opponent and are less likely to go out with 0-4 (or 0-6) User was warned for this post. | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On May 16 2019 04:27 Executer08 wrote: i'd argue thats less ukraine's "fault". i also think with the new loser bracket system this event will still be "better" than past WCS' and motivate people who have a tough first group to still show up and give it their best, especially as you then face a more equal opponent and are less likely to go out with 0-4 (or 0-6) Less than whom's fault ? Blizzard/Tournament organization for choosing a country with visa issues known beforehand ? I'm with you. But if you're suggesting another country's fault, I'll probably not agree about its identity. | ||
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krissout
24 Posts
You know why ? :/ Who else isn't coming ? This is really sad  | ||
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nerdchill
16 Posts
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NinjaNight
428 Posts
On May 16 2019 04:45 krissout wrote: Scarlett is not playing ? You know why ? :/ Who else isn't coming ? This is really sad She's playing GSL instead, can't do both. She'll be playing in that soon =). This season there's a region lock that forbids a player to do gsl and wcs in the same season but they're scrapping that rule next season. So next time she could do GSL and WCS too if she wants. | ||
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Elmonti
Spain299 Posts
On May 16 2019 05:38 NinjaNight wrote: She's playing GSL instead, can't do both. She'll be playing in that soon =). This season there's a region lock that forbids a player to do gsl and wcs in the same season but they're scrapping that rule next season. So next time she could do GSL and WCS too if she wants. As far as we know, that rule applied only to WCS Challenger. Sortof also tried to qualify for GSL S1 and he is competing in Kiev. She could still go to the open bracket, so must be something else. | ||
Waxangel
United States33432 Posts
On May 16 2019 05:38 NinjaNight wrote: She's playing GSL instead, can't do both. She'll be playing in that soon =). This season there's a region lock that forbids a player to do gsl and wcs in the same season but they're scrapping that rule next season. So next time she could do GSL and WCS too if she wants. That rule was changed almost as soon as it was implemented. SpeCial is in Code S and is also competing in WCS Spring/Kiev. The way the rule applies to Scalrett is that she was unable to play in this season of Challenger, and thus unable to compete for paid flight/accommodations. If Scarlett is not competing in the open bracket of this tournament, then it was for whatever other reasons (team/herself unwilling to pay for the trip out of pocket). | ||
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ordeal11
Czech Republic52 Posts
On May 16 2019 05:10 nerdchill wrote: No NA players what so ever, except those who come through the qualifier. Gogojoey is the only asian player that didn't come through Challenger (the qualifiers). Everyone else is from EU. TIME ? | ||
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JJH777
United States4408 Posts
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On May 16 2019 03:53 kell234 wrote: 8 BYE because Ukraine = Zimbabwe Does that make Russia South Sudan? User was warned for this post. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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stardog
556 Posts
Maybe Somalia. User was warned for this post. | ||
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Juaks
United States384 Posts
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Sc2Nebula
15 Posts
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StarcraftSquall
United States196 Posts
On a lesser note it’s also a bummer that puCK and Astrea are not making it either. Kiev is not off to the best of starts. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6946 Posts
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On May 16 2019 16:58 Harris1st wrote: Do we know why so many players cancelled? This is a very unfortunate start :/ Visa issues for some, maybe traveling cost for some. Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy. edit : No visa issues, my bad. | ||
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Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 16 2019 17:49 Serimek wrote: Visa issues for some, maybe traveling cost for some. Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy. The question is why Ukraine has 2 events (IIRC) with these issues. Not that I will be watching WCS, just wondering why 2 | ||
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2197 Posts
Gonna move all my fandom super wizard energy/dorito sending p0wers over to Juanito for this one then. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6946 Posts
On May 16 2019 18:10 deacon.frost wrote: The question is why Ukraine has 2 events (IIRC) with these issues. Not that I will be watching WCS, just wondering why 2 I'm guessing money has quite a lot to do with it. I would prefer events in Sweden. Those worked quite well if I recall correctly | ||
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thickertom
China612 Posts
On May 16 2019 12:11 Sc2Nebula wrote: Scarlett is recovering from an eye surgery as far as I know. I have said Scarlett had an eye surgery for many times. Why does no one know? | ||
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Elmonti
Spain299 Posts
On May 16 2019 22:22 thickertom wrote: I have said Scarlett had an eye surgery for many times. Why does no one know? Lasik has a very quick recovery (a few days), and she was playing GSL more than a week ago, so... | ||
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parrotpitaya
Germany37 Posts
On May 16 2019 22:36 Elmonti wrote: Lasik has a very quick recovery (a few days), and she was playing GSL more than a week ago, so... The recovery was not as good as expected and she did bad in GSL for that reason. | ||
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Elmonti
Spain299 Posts
On May 16 2019 23:03 parrotpitaya wrote: The recovery was not as good as expected and she did bad in GSL for that reason. Where do you get that data from?... She lost 1-2 to Trap, and 1-2 to Keen... that's not strange for a healthy Scarlett, so nope, I don't think that's the reason she went out in GSL. The only strange thing she did was to ask GSL to lower the lights of the studio. Anyways, excited to see how the new events in Kiev go. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6946 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 16 2019 23:24 Elmonti wrote: Where do you get that data from?... She lost 1-2 to Trap, and 1-2 to Keen... that's not strange for a healthy Scarlett, so nope, I don't think that's the reason she went out in GSL. The only strange thing she did was to ask GSL to lower the lights of the studio. Anyways, excited to see how the new events in Kiev go. A true nerd plays in the dark as you don't have to fear of the Dark!  She's a woman who walks alone And when she's walking a dark road At night or strolling through the park ... when the light begins to change she sometimes feels a little strange A little anxious when he's Dark. Fear of the Dark, fear of the Dark She has a constant fear that zergling's always near! Fear of the Dark, fear of the Dark She has a phobia that someone's always there! | ||
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Alex007
Ukraine211 Posts
On May 16 2019 17:49 Serimek wrote: Visa issues for some, maybe traveling cost for some. Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy From the tournament organizer's perspective, I would like to clarify that no signups were cancelled due to any kind of visa / border control issues. Every Russian player is in. Every player who applied for visa (we had around 10 players who had to go for this procedure, one can't even compare that to US or Canada for example) is now in Kiev. The reasons of notable players like Scarlett, ArT, Denver, Rail, Rob cancelling their participation are mostly individual and nothing has changed since previous WCS Circuit stops: 5 to 10 players dropped almost every event. The main reason why we don't have the replacements for these players is our Master league signup criteria which was not used during the previous WCS Circuit events - this might be our mistake and we will consider changing this approach for WCS Summer. | ||
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Kafka777
361 Posts
Denver is unable to compete because he does not have some vaccine needed and cannot have one because of an allergy. Furthermore, there are no mandatory vaccinations required to go to Ukraine. So its unlikely that this is the reason for Denver's absence.. | ||
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Htime
58 Posts
no signups were cancelled due to any kind of visa / border control issues Thanks for the clarification Alex007, that is very important information to frame the situation. One concern I have is the sheer quantity of Starcraft being attempted on Friday. Three Bo3 dual-tournament group stages and five rounds of the Bo3 knockout bracket in just one day. That is more maps than an entire season of GSL in the first six hours. I can see why an unseeded player would be wary of entering such an endurance contest. An all-day event like this is certain to take place in the Americas/Korea night time, so just the jet lag alone would make it a grind for those traveling a long way. IEM, counting its offline qualifier, has similar field size and takes place over 5 days instead of 3. I'd love to see some Korean players that failed to qualify for GSL/ST fill in the last spots, sort of reverse-Scarlett. Taeja or Bunny maybe, or some sponsored slots for any past legend. I think, strangely enough, having a smaller offline field would increase the strength of the tournament. Almost better off having Group Stage 1 the previous weekend as an online event, and then it would provide a better incentive for the remaining players to travel, plus a less compressed tourney schedule. | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On May 17 2019 10:44 Kafka777 wrote: Furthermore, there are no mandatory vaccinations required to go to Ukraine. So its unlikely that this is the reason for Denver's absence.. It is though : | ||
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
On May 17 2019 07:56 Alex007 wrote: From the tournament organizer's perspective, I would like to clarify that no signups were cancelled due to any kind of visa / border control issues. Every Russian player is in. Every player who applied for visa (we had around 10 players who had to go for this procedure, one can't even compare that to US or Canada for example) is now in Kiev. The reasons of notable players like Scarlett, ArT, Denver, Rail, Rob cancelling their participation are mostly individual and nothing has changed since previous WCS Circuit stops: 5 to 10 players dropped almost every event. The main reason why we don't have the replacements for these players is our Master league signup criteria which was not used during the previous WCS Circuit events - this might be our mistake and we will consider changing this approach for WCS Summer. I stand correct, thank you. | ||
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Kafka777
361 Posts
It is though Generally the epidemic in in Western Ukraine, not in Kiev. One has similar risk of catching the disease in Paris as in Kiev. | ||
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Htime
58 Posts
Bonjour Twitter. Je ne serai pas à Kiev ce week-end pour les WCS. Il y a en Ukraine une épidémie de rougeole qui a commencé il y a un mois, et je ne suis pas vacciné contre. Le vaccin est fabriqué à base d'oeuf, et j'y suis allergique, c'est pour ça qu'étant petit je n'ai pas été vacciné, et que je ne le suis toujours pas. Vraiment déçu de ne pas pouvoir participer car je me sentais super mais je n'y peux rien. Bonne chance à tous les participants et surtout aux immenses baguettes qui vont nous représenter là-bas. A une prochaine fois Hello Twitter. I will not be in Kiev this weekend for the WCS. There is a measles outbreak in Ukraine that started a month ago, and I am not vaccinated against it. The vaccine is made from egg, and I'm allergic, that's why being small I was not vaccinated, and I still am not. Really disappointed not to participate because I felt great but I can not help it. Good luck to all participants and especially the prominent french players (immenses baguettes) that will represent us there. See you later | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On May 18 2019 10:52 Htime wrote: Hello Twitter. I will not be in Kiev this weekend for the WCS. There is a measles outbreak in Ukraine that started a month ago, and I am not vaccinated against it. The vaccine is made from egg, and I'm allergic, that's why being small I was not vaccinated, and I still am not. Really disappointed not to participate because I felt great but I can not help it. Good luck to all participants and especially the prominent french players (immenses baguettes) that will represent us there. See you later WTF? Egg allergy is NOT a contraindication to the measles vaccine. In fact kids with egg allergies are routinely given the vaccine - if anything there are special procedures/precautions that are set in place to make sure everything is smooth. His doctors are misinforming him. He should really consult a better doctor or else he is playing with fire. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On May 16 2019 07:05 Anc13nt wrote: Wow if Scarlett isn't participating that sucks. It's almost crazy how she hasn't made Blizzcon in the past few years and I think this will hurt her chances. It's a pity too, she's off to a great start with getting second in WCS Winter Americas, but really shooting herself in the foot here. | ||
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zenDO
Spain25 Posts
On May 16 2019 05:56 Waxangel wrote: That rule was changed almost as soon as it was implemented. SpeCial is in Code S and is also competing in WCS Spring/Kiev. The way the rule applies to Scalrett is that she was unable to play in this season of Challenger, and thus unable to compete for paid flight/accommodations. If Scarlett is not competing in the open bracket of this tournament, then it was for whatever other reasons (team/herself unwilling to pay for the trip out of pocket). But it's not for playing in this season of GSL, it is because she competed in GSL S1 aswell. | ||
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