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The qualifiers for the first GSL Super Tournament of 2019 concluded with fourteen players earning spots alongside Maru and Classic, who have been seeded as the current Code S finalists. The single-elimination Super Tournament will be held between April 18-21, with ₩10,000,000 KRW and 1,500 WCS Korea points going to the champion. Update: Bracket has been released ![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/GSL/2019/st1/st1bracket.jpg) 
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Jatlantis1
Australia11 Posts
Anyway keen as for this. | ||
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Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Actually, I just double checked and the 2014 GSL Season 1 Ro16 had exactly the same 9P/2T/5Z race distribution. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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Sajaki
Canada1135 Posts
On April 09 2019 06:29 Kimb3r wrote: Where can I see the brackets of the qualifier? View page on Liquipedia (directly under the graphic above) -> Qualifier tab -> Results at the bottom | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On April 09 2019 06:32 Anc13nt wrote: Feels like it's becoming more and more clear that terran is underpowered tbh. Just because Maru is doing well doesn't mean terran is doing fine, especially since Maru seems to thrive whenever terran is weak. I was gonna post something to this effect on one of the other recent tournament threads—Maru does good because Maru is a tried & true beast, whose only weakness may be that he needs slightly more prep time than some of his fellow players. | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2167 Posts
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xelnaga_empire
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Fran_
United States1024 Posts
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the caz dog
Australia17 Posts
On April 09 2019 06:32 Anc13nt wrote: Feels like it's becoming more and more clear that terran is underpowered tbh. Just because Maru is doing well doesn't mean terran is doing fine, especially since Maru seems to thrive whenever terran is weak. Never pass up on an opportunity to ask for Terran buffs, it seems. Possible 4 in a row GSL wins not enough for you? (Where TvP is 55%, btw). And now we are asked to exclude Maru's achievements from balance discussions as an outlier? Imagine if Protoss or Zerg players spoke like this...but to be honest, it seems to work in influencing Blizzard....so why stop now? | ||
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Topin
Peru10038 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
If we disregard kas, special and Bratok (whom funnily enough were all knocked out by Z or T) the only zerg to disqualify a terran was soO that went through both Fantasy and Keen. Only one T was knocked out TvT (Bunny by TY). On the other hand, TY knocked out by Hurricane, Dream knocked out by Trust, Innovation knocked out by Parting, Top knocked out by herO, Cure knocked out by Zest and Alive knocked out by Stats. I mean sure the stats are padded by there being three foreigner terrans and most of protoss players being in form right now but still. In that qualifier terrans went 15-35 in TvP, that is worrying. On April 09 2019 06:44 SharkStarcraft wrote: Gonna be in SK for this event. Lifelong dream fulfilled I tell ya So happy for you, and quite a bit jealous =D | ||
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StabiloBoss20
313 Posts
will this be the first time he shines at a weekender? | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
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Miralem Ibrahim
40 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On April 09 2019 07:03 the caz dog wrote: Never pass up on an opportunity to ask for Terran buffs, it seems. Possible 4 in a row GSL wins not enough for you? (Where TvP is 55%, btw). And now we are asked to exclude Maru's achievements from balance discussions as an outlier? Imagine if Protoss or Zerg players spoke like this...but to be honest, it seems to work in influencing Blizzard....so why stop now? You seem to believe that the argument that T is underpowered is disproved by the fact that one terran player won several tournaments last year? Just because a terran player wins that doesn't mean the game is balanced, imagine if theoretically Maru would be the only player in GSL RO 16, would you still be able to make the same argument? I think not, the race the champion plays can actually be UP, that is in no way contradiction. Just for the sake of the discussion I will add that Innovation (whom actually won a championship this year) won it through playing only one single protoss player during the whole tournament, that was Rail. | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On April 09 2019 07:23 Shuffleblade wrote: This racial distribution does point to there being a real balance problem at the highest level. If you look at the actual brackets it looks even more grim. Somehow 12 protoss, 13 terrans and 11 zerg ended up like this. If we disregard kas, special and Bratok (whom funnily enough were all knocked out by Z or T) the only zerg to disqualify a terran was soO that went through both Fantasy and Keen. Only one T was knocked out TvT (Bunny by TY). On the other hand, TY knocked out by Hurricane, Dream knocked out by Trust, Innovation knocked out by Parting, Top knocked out by herO, Cure knocked out by Zest and Alive knocked out by Stats. I mean sure the stats are padded by there being three foreigner terrans and most of protoss players being in form right now but still. In that qualifier terrans went 15-35 in TvP, that is worrying. So happy for you, and quite a bit jealous =D Now, I realize that there are always explanations for individual matches, and and overall race score can be indicative of certain balance problems, but here's the thing. Of those matchups you mentioned, the only real upsets are TY and Innovation. And in a bo3, even in multiple bo3, there's so many different issues that can occur, such as the player's form from day to day, the other player's form, the specific preparation, and so on and so forth. Again, none of this proves that there isn't an imbalance, but pointing out specific match results doesn't necessarily prove imbalance either. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On April 09 2019 07:34 FrkFrJss wrote: Now, I realize that there are always explanations for individual matches, and and overall race score can be indicative of certain balance problems, but here's the thing. Of those matchups you mentioned, the only real upsets are TY and Innovation. And in a bo3, even in multiple bo3, there's so many different issues that can occur, such as the player's form from day to day, the other player's form, the specific preparation, and so on and so forth. Again, none of this proves that there isn't an imbalance, but pointing out specific match results doesn't necessarily prove imbalance either. Yeah I agree with you, I was just curious and looked into it. It obviously doesn't prove anything, however its not like I'm looking at this tournament in a vacuum, Look at IEM and WESG racial distribution and there's the reason I even bring it up here, because its not the first time. I'm starting to see a pattern here. On a sidenote kinda funny to see Dear get wrecked by Maru and then come into this qualifier smashing Fantasy and Keen 4-0. Dear definitely hasn't lost his mojo =P | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On April 09 2019 07:03 the caz dog wrote: Never pass up on an opportunity to ask for Terran buffs, it seems. Possible 4 in a row GSL wins not enough for you? (Where TvP is 55%, btw). And now we are asked to exclude Maru's achievements from balance discussions as an outlier? Imagine if Protoss or Zerg players spoke like this...but to be honest, it seems to work in influencing Blizzard....so why stop now? Terran has won the last 5 GSL's in a row actually. Gunning for 6. | ||
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