EPTI feel very slow and even no at all progress. For about 4 months now
I play 10 games day on avg.. Analyze replays and training...
So master 2 is my peak?
How can i know if i reached my peak?
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Eladmiara
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I feel very slow and even no at all progress. For about 4 months now I play 10 games day on avg.. Analyze replays and training... So master 2 is my peak? | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
Anyone can get better at any skill until the moment they die. If you played 20 games per day you would progress faster. Skill is just: Amount of time you practice * Quality of practice * Talent. You can always improve the first two. And since the brain is plastic even talent can be improved to some degree. | ||
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Eladmiara
25 Posts
On December 31 2018 18:11 MockHamill wrote: There is not such thing as peak. Anyone can get better at any skill until the moment they die. If you played 20 games per day you would progress faster. Skill is just: Amount of time you practice * Quality of practice * Talent. You can always improve the first two. And since the brain is plastic even talent can be improved to some degree. In weekend i play 30 games day So about 100 games week.. 400 month. I try to be efficante... I watch the replay from both me and enemy camera.. I still stuck. My memory suck i forget to do little stuff that make me lose games. I find it hard to micro vs storm even when im way ahead and oftan lose.. How cani improve past m2 into gm? | ||
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::Rhapsody
Canada124 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On December 31 2018 18:16 Eladmiara wrote: In weekend i play 30 games day So about 100 games week.. 400 month. I try to be efficante... I watch the replay from both me and enemy camera.. I still stuck. My memory suck i forget to do little stuff that make me lose games. I find it hard to micro vs storm even when im way ahead and oftan lose.. How cani improve past m2 into gm? Pick one thing each day you want to improve in each matchup, based on whatever you feel you did badly in games you played the day before. You can't fix every problem at once, but if you can improve one thing each day, you should continue to improve a bit more. As for the peaking, I think most people will cap out talent in high masters/low GM, irrespective of playtime/practice/coaching. You aren't quite there yet. so keep it up if you want to get better. | ||
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Eladmiara
25 Posts
On December 31 2018 18:42 Amui wrote: Pick one thing each day you want to improve in each matchup, based on whatever you feel you did badly in games you played the day before. You can't fix every problem at once, but if you can improve one thing each day, you should continue to improve a bit more. As for the peaking, I think most people will cap out talent in high masters/low GM, irrespective of playtime/practice/coaching. You aren't quite there yet. so keep it up if you want to get better. By high master u mean 5400? Cuz gm in eu is 5600 Btw i beat 5k and 5.1k from time to time. But keep losing to 4.4k terran mech or 4.6k turtle colosus protoss ... But ive never faced gm player... Im not sure if it worth tokeep play since idk if icapped my limit.. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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vik7
United States227 Posts
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WeakOwl
25 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15953 Posts
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ilovegroov
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On December 31 2018 19:18 vik7 wrote: when you peak at 3.7k </3 feels bad, I feel like vegeta watching bullshit gokus/gohans progressing really fast Can promise this isn't your peak XD You need to maybe try learn differently (if improvement is something you care about). Learn some builds, and play them out against the AI and check how your timings are lining up. Also try change your playstyle, if you never all-in for example, try drill that for a while. Your understanding of how to hold those things, and early game in general, will improve a lot. As to the other person saying you've peaked after 10 seasons in the same league, I'm not sure I agree. I was diamond easily 10 seasons or more before first breaking through into masters. Although at 10 seasons you are probably not far off your ceiling unless you change something up about your learning and practicing process a lot. | ||
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HariSeldon
Sweden114 Posts
I've personally never played in ny structured manner whatsoever, as in I play terran and I didn't even know what most protoss buildings did for several years; what structures or units they unlocked. I like to say it's because I don't care and just want to have fun, but really it's probably just cause I'm too lazy. | ||
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Dingodile
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sertman
United States540 Posts
On December 31 2018 18:11 MockHamill wrote: There is not such thing as peak. Anyone can get better at any skill until the moment they die. If you played 20 games per day you would progress faster. Skill is just: Amount of time you practice * Quality of practice * Talent. You can always improve the first two. And since the brain is plastic even talent can be improved to some degree. That is an admirable view and I hope you keep it, but it flies in the face of neuropsychology. For example, people with ADHD have dysfunctional prefrontal cortexes and as hard as they try they probably will not be able to sustain the attention necessary to compete after a certain MMR. The point I'm making here is that everyone is on an executive functioning spectrum. I can play 10k games and be 4k MMR and you can play 10k games and be 6k MMR even if we both practice and analyze together. Talent exists, everyone's brains are different and some people will peak before others. Some of the top chess players can play blindfolded when they are 6/7 years old (Judit Polgar could play blindfolded by 4 years old). That is not teachable. Someone like Stephano has to work hard, but he can get drunk and high and show up and still compete with the best. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15953 Posts
On December 31 2018 18:11 MockHamill wrote: There is not such thing as peak. Anyone can get better at any skill until the moment they die. If you played 20 games per day you would progress faster. Skill is just: Amount of time you practice * Quality of practice * Talent. You can always improve the first two. And since the brain is plastic even talent can be improved to some degree. That's unfortunately not true. What about players who have played 10k games in a row without improving their mmr at all? | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
On December 31 2018 21:37 Charoisaur wrote: That's unfortunately not true. What about players who have played 10k games in a row without improving their mmr at all? It is because the quality of practice is bad. If you gave him the best coach on the planet and the best training partners on the planet and he played 10.000 more games he would be several times better. The whole reason Koreans were superior to Western players were that their quality of practice was better. Now when the team houses are dead the Korean advantage is much smaller, which is also show that the difference in skill is much less compared to what it used to be. | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
On December 31 2018 21:34 sertman wrote: That is an admirable view and I hope you keep it, but it flies in the face of neuropsychology. For example, people with ADHD have dysfunctional prefrontal cortexes and as hard as they try they probably will not be able to sustain the attention necessary to compete after a certain MMR. The point I'm making here is that everyone is on an executive functioning spectrum. I can play 10k games and be 4k MMR and you can play 10k games and be 6k MMR even if we both practice and analyze together. Talent exists, everyone's brains are different and some people will peak before others. Some of the top chess players can play blindfolded when they are 6/7 years old (Judit Polgar could play blindfolded by 4 years old). That is not teachable. Someone like Stephano has to work hard, but he can get drunk and high and show up and still compete with the best. Well I said the formula was: Amount of practice * Quality of practice * Talent Obviously if you have 1000 players practicing for 30.000 hours they will all be great but some will be greater than others. The outcome will be determined by the quality of their practice and their talent. For normal ladder players I really doubt it is lack of talent holding them back. If they played more and had a world class coach helping them focus on how they should improve they would improve much faster. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
When you're not willing to work hard to get better, not willing to learn to new things or change the way you play, not willing to seek out the help of others... when your mind gives up, then you've reached your peak. Doing hard things isn't easy or relaxing, you have to push yourself. But if you want to deliver unreasonable and unexpected results, you have to be an unreasonable person who doesn't listen to those who'll tell you you've reached your limit. If it was easy, everyone would be a champion. So the only person who can answer that question, is you. | ||
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Ulargg
Netherlands33 Posts
- People stop playing, which increases the average skill level. - The people that keep playing get better. So if you manage to keep at the same MMR it still means you are improving. | ||
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