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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 01 2018 13:50 GMT
#41
Looking at the Aligulac predictions, it's actually quite impressive how it has virtually no opinion of Serral. It gives 1:4 to any possible placement of his. Basically, if you ask Aligulac how Serral is going to do, the answer is: nah, whatever.

I am curious whether that is a coincidence or whether it also works with some uncertainty?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2018 14:04 GMT
#42
On November 01 2018 21:47 frazzle wrote:
Looks like there is a mistake, Student meets Master Special vs TY sleeper prediction seems to be missing!


I think the best Semi we can hope for is Maru Special and TY Serral. Because then any final will be at least 90% max hype level.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12939 Posts
November 01 2018 14:08 GMT
#43
On November 01 2018 22:50 opisska wrote:
Looking at the Aligulac predictions, it's actually quite impressive how it has virtually no opinion of Serral. It gives 1:4 to any possible placement of his. Basically, if you ask Aligulac how Serral is going to do, the answer is: nah, whatever.

I am curious whether that is a coincidence or whether it also works with some uncertainty?

I'm pretty sure it's because his first round is almost even (#2 aligulac vs #3 and comparable ZvZ elo), and the future matches as well, because his path opponents are at the top as well.
Whereas Maru has an easier "aligulac" path to the finals.
WriterMaru
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
November 01 2018 14:10 GMT
#44
On November 01 2018 23:04 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 21:47 frazzle wrote:
Looks like there is a mistake, Student meets Master Special vs TY sleeper prediction seems to be missing!


I think the best Semi we can hope for is Maru Special and TY Serral. Because then any final will be at least 90% max hype level.

I disagree.

TvP has seen a meta shift all thanks to Maru. I want to see Stats show us how Protoss are supposed to play in this new meta. I suspect that sOs will have his own take on this but that it will ultimately fail. If he weren't going up against Maru (so that Maru and Trap would help him prepare) then I'd have more faith.

TvP is the matchup to watch right now, in my opinion. I wish there was a protoss on the bottom side of the bracket.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 01 2018 14:14 GMT
#45
This must be the least amount of faith people have ever had in Dark (in the last you years at least)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 01 2018 14:15 GMT
#46
On November 01 2018 23:10 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 23:04 Pandain wrote:
On November 01 2018 21:47 frazzle wrote:
Looks like there is a mistake, Student meets Master Special vs TY sleeper prediction seems to be missing!


I think the best Semi we can hope for is Maru Special and TY Serral. Because then any final will be at least 90% max hype level.

I disagree.

TvP has seen a meta shift all thanks to Maru. I want to see Stats show us how Protoss are supposed to play in this new meta. I suspect that sOs will have his own take on this but that it will ultimately fail. If he weren't going up against Maru (so that Maru and Trap would help him prepare) then I'd have more faith.

TvP is the matchup to watch right now, in my opinion. I wish there was a protoss on the bottom side of the bracket.


You probably won't like what you see since Stats said he's trying to avoid terrans because "he hates proxies"
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 01 2018 14:17 GMT
#47
I'm truly shocked by how many people here think Serral is going to the finals and nobody believes in sOs. Gonna be a fun weekend xD
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
November 01 2018 14:17 GMT
#48
On November 01 2018 23:14 Fango wrote:
This must be the least amount of faith people have ever had in Dark (in the last you years at least)

He's in an absolutely disgusting bracket against the best ZvZ player in the world, and then if he manages that, either last year's world champion or the man who took Maru to the absolute brink in a bo7.

He might be getting slept on just a little, but not a ton to be completely honest. If dark makes the finals I wil be very surprised.
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Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
November 01 2018 14:17 GMT
#49
Surprised nobody expects sOs to win over Maru considering the last tournament they fought, GSL Super tournament 1 month ago, sOs won 3 - 1 over Maru in the round of 8 and eliminated him from the tournament.

A lot of magic can happen when two teammates fights, especially when they are such strong meta/strategy influencers as Maru and sOs. Also lets not forget that at blizzcon sOs tends to be in $O$ mode.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
November 01 2018 14:22 GMT
#50
On November 01 2018 23:17 Neneu wrote:
Surprised nobody expects sOs to win over Maru considering the last tournament they fought, GSL Super tournament 1 month ago, sOs won 3 - 1 over Maru in the round of 8 and eliminated him from the tournament.

A lot of magic can happen when two teammates fights, especially when they are such strong meta/strategy influencers as Maru and sOs. Also lets not forget that at blizzcon sOs tends to be in $O$ mode.

I agree. I'm not sure I'd go as far as to favor sOs over Maru, but I certainly do give him a fighting chance.
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Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
November 01 2018 14:25 GMT
#51
Honestly thinks it's going to be a Stats-Serral/Dark final.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
November 01 2018 14:25 GMT
#52
On November 01 2018 23:17 Neneu wrote:
Surprised nobody expects sOs to win over Maru considering the last tournament they fought, GSL Super tournament 1 month ago, sOs won 3 - 1 over Maru in the round of 8 and eliminated him from the tournament.

A lot of magic can happen when two teammates fights, especially when they are such strong meta/strategy influencers as Maru and sOs. Also lets not forget that at blizzcon sOs tends to be in $O$ mode.


I watched Sos last weekend, and I'm still surprised that he advanced past Heromarine, never mind Maru.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 01 2018 14:30 GMT
#53
sOs is going to win the entire thing. His crap performance in group stage is a next level mind game
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-01 14:32:01
November 01 2018 14:31 GMT
#54
On November 01 2018 23:17 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 23:14 Fango wrote:
This must be the least amount of faith people have ever had in Dark (in the last you years at least)

He's in an absolutely disgusting bracket against the best ZvZ player in the world, and then if he manages that, either last year's world champion or the man who took Maru to the absolute brink in a bo7.

He might be getting slept on just a little, but not a ton to be completely honest. If dark makes the finals I wil be very surprised.

Serral being the absolute best ZvZer is still debatable. He probably is, but if Lambo, Scarlett, and Reynor can all take him to the edge, Dark can certainly do more.

Rogue hasn't done much of anything in the last six months, and Dark would almost certainly be favoured over TY given he usually does.

Now I still think Serral will make the final, and likely win. But people seem to be counting out Dark entirely. He's still made 2 finals and 3 ro4s this year, and those were all events with other koreans. That's more than TY, Rogue, or Serral.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
November 01 2018 14:34 GMT
#55
On November 01 2018 23:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
sOs is going to win the entire thing. His crap performance in group stage is a next level mind game


I mean, if he starts playing well I'm actually fine with that.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Neneu
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway492 Posts
November 01 2018 14:36 GMT
#56
On November 01 2018 23:25 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 23:17 Neneu wrote:
Surprised nobody expects sOs to win over Maru considering the last tournament they fought, GSL Super tournament 1 month ago, sOs won 3 - 1 over Maru in the round of 8 and eliminated him from the tournament.

A lot of magic can happen when two teammates fights, especially when they are such strong meta/strategy influencers as Maru and sOs. Also lets not forget that at blizzcon sOs tends to be in $O$ mode.


I watched Sos last weekend, and I'm still surprised that he advanced past Heromarine, never mind Maru.


But you have to remember heromarine is not his teammate and that every time Maru and sOs fights, it is batshit crazy. Every single time. One cannot extract anything from previous performance at blizzcon of how he weill do against Maru. If it were against any other player I would agree, but not against Maru.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-01 14:45:07
November 01 2018 14:38 GMT
#57
I'm so disappointed by how biased some parts of the community are. It's been 8 years of wonderful SC2 with countless fantastic moments and some people still say that it would be the best thing in the history of the game "for them" that Serral wins Blizzcon ??? Best thing for what? A foreigner finally wins? Were you not that entertained when guys like MVP, Life, sOs, Inno, Taeja ... gave us their best games?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12939 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-01 14:42:13
November 01 2018 14:42 GMT
#58
On November 01 2018 23:38 ParksonVN wrote:
I'm so disappointed by how biased some parts of the community are. It's been 8 years of wonderful SC2 with countless fantastic moments and some people still say that it would be the best thing in the history of the game "for them" that Serral wins the Blizzcon ??? Best thing for what? A foreigner finally wins? Were you not that entertained when guys like MVP, Life, sOs, Inno, Taeja ... gave us their best games?

If there is no Maru in finals I doubt I'd watch, except maybe if TY is in there. So not everyone wants Serral to win thankfully :o.
WriterMaru
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8310 Posts
November 01 2018 14:45 GMT
#59
Seriously? Every single prediction has Serral reaching the finals? I mean I'm rooting for the guy, I'm liquibetting for him, but I've been around long enough to know there's a VERY good chance he doesn't make it past Dark, let alone making it through the semi-finals.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 01 2018 14:47 GMT
#60
The dream finals, Maru vs Serral, is the most likely of the 16 possible finals, but even then realistically I don't think it has more than a 20-25% chance of happening.
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