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Jimmon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States112 Posts
November 01 2018 12:22 GMT
#21
Stats Wins Blizzcon 4-1.

Jimmon the Toss God has spoken.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 01 2018 12:23 GMT
#22
On November 01 2018 21:19 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 21:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
We all know how this works, every single TL writer predicted serral in the finals, gl buddy.
Olli saved Maru at least so that's nice!


So the semis are gonna be sOs - Special - TY - Dark, right?

Nah TL writers aren't that strong, that's artosis territory you are talking about.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 01 2018 12:29 GMT
#23
On November 01 2018 20:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
Olli as usual trying his hardest to be a dissenting opinion just for the sake of it.

I used to think it was just his thing, but now I understand that he was just being a modern "hot take" sports writer before they really became a thing everywhere.


Is predicting Stats to beat Maru again really such a hot take? He won the last time they played, which was also in the semifinals of a weekend tournament.

As for dissenting opinions: yes, that's largely what I do. I'm not interested in pandering to the crowd, and I'm not interested in having to adjust my opinion to some imaginary norm. Where's the value in that? I'm not dissenting for the sake of it, I just don't find writing anything that doesn't offer an alternative perspective on things worth the time in the first place. So if there's a consensus in the community about something and I agree with it, I won't write about it because consensus already exists and I'm adding nothing to the discussion.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 01 2018 12:35 GMT
#24
Poor Special only gets 1 win
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 01 2018 12:36 GMT
#25
nice to see we have consensus on SoS not making it out of ro8
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
November 01 2018 12:37 GMT
#26
These predictions seem to come from the heart, I guess there's no law against that. Personally I can't agree that Serral's ZvZ is too good to beat. At the last foreigner tournament, he barely beat three foreigners in ZvZ. You could argue that he won that tournament because of Reynor's nerves, as it was Reynor's first finals. Rogue and Dark are both much better ZvZ than those players, and so while Serral can beat them, I think it's quite unlikely that he beats both of them.

Btw even if these are dreams and not analysis-based predictions, I think that it would have been cool if you guys weren't all so similar in your feelings. Why is it always a Serral vs Maru finals? This could have been an article where you tell stories about different dream scenarios from different perspectives. Instead they are all about Serral/Maru acheiving destiny or something. I mean what about sOs vs Rogue/Serral/Dark? Stats vs Dark? I mean there are lots of great, epic stories you could tell here.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 01 2018 12:41 GMT
#27
At least nobody posted the exact Aligulac bracket, altough some of them are pretty close

                   Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
-----------------------------------------------------
Maru 36.17% 11.35% 13.85% 38.62%
Serral 26.58% 22.86% 26.28% 24.29%
TY 10.91% 14.51% 32.21% 42.37%
Dark 7.85% 7.54% 8.89% 75.71%
Stats 7.11% 20.58% 46.06% 26.25%
sOs 6.54% 15.15% 16.94% 61.38%
Rogue 4.29% 5.46% 32.62% 57.63%
SpeCial 0.55% 2.56% 23.15% 73.75%
Median Outcome Bracket
+ Show Spoiler +
        Maru 3 ┐ 
├──────── Maru 3 ┐
sOs 2 ┘ │
├──────── Maru 4 ┐
SpeCial 1 ┐ │ │
├─────── Stats 1 ┘ │
Stats 3 ┘ │
├─ Maru
TY 3 ┐ │
├────────── TY 2 ┐ │
Rogue 2 ┘ │ │
├────── Serral 2 ┘
Serral 3 ┐ │
├────── Serral 3 ┘
Dark 1 ┘

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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niya90s
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
Norway29 Posts
November 01 2018 12:45 GMT
#28
On November 01 2018 21:41 opisska wrote:
At least nobody posted the exact Aligulac bracket, altough some of them are pretty close

                   Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
-----------------------------------------------------
Maru 36.17% 11.35% 13.85% 38.62%
Serral 26.58% 22.86% 26.28% 24.29%
TY 10.91% 14.51% 32.21% 42.37%
Dark 7.85% 7.54% 8.89% 75.71%
Stats 7.11% 20.58% 46.06% 26.25%
sOs 6.54% 15.15% 16.94% 61.38%
Rogue 4.29% 5.46% 32.62% 57.63%
SpeCial 0.55% 2.56% 23.15% 73.75%
Median Outcome Bracket
+ Show Spoiler +
        Maru 3 ┐ 
├──────── Maru 3 ┐
sOs 2 ┘ │
├──────── Maru 4 ┐
SpeCial 1 ┐ │ │
├─────── Stats 1 ┘ │
Stats 3 ┘ │
├─ Maru
TY 3 ┐ │
├────────── TY 2 ┐ │
Rogue 2 ┘ │ │
├────── Serral 2 ┘
Serral 3 ┐ │
├────── Serral 3 ┘
Dark 1 ┘

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Wow that was actually very cool. No idea that was possible with aligulac. That pretty sums up my predictions!
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
November 01 2018 12:47 GMT
#29
On November 01 2018 21:37 Rodya wrote:
These predictions seem to come from the heart, I guess there's no law against that. Personally I can't agree that Serral's ZvZ is too good to beat. At the last foreigner tournament, he barely beat three foreigners in ZvZ. You could argue that he won that tournament because of Reynor's nerves, as it was Reynor's first finals. Rogue and Dark are both much better ZvZ than those players, and so while Serral can beat them, I think it's quite unlikely that he beats both of them.

Btw even if these are dreams and not analysis-based predictions, I think that it would have been cool if you guys weren't all so similar in your feelings. Why is it always a Serral vs Maru finals? This could have been an article where you tell stories about different dream scenarios from different perspectives. Instead they are all about Serral/Maru acheiving destiny or something. I mean what about sOs vs Rogue/Serral/Dark? Stats vs Dark? I mean there are lots of great, epic stories you could tell here.

You could also argue that Serral is incredibly clutch. He has so many strategies for every map in ZvZ and can pick the right one to execute perfectly when it comes down to the ace match. And bringing up Reynor is actually a bad example. I love watching Reynor play, but he seems to always lose ZvZ in tournament best ofs.
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frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
November 01 2018 12:47 GMT
#30
Looks like there is a mistake, Student meets Master Special vs TY sleeper prediction seems to be missing!
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland948 Posts
November 01 2018 12:57 GMT
#31
On November 01 2018 21:18 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2018 20:50 dummy1 wrote:
two days later.... serral 0 - 3 dark...

My dream!


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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 01 2018 13:08 GMT
#32
Stats vs TY with stats winning it.

LMAO tl writers just predict correctly once xd
The Bomber boy
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
November 01 2018 13:13 GMT
#33
On November 01 2018 21:22 Jimmon wrote:
Stats Wins Blizzcon 4-1.

Jimmon the Toss God has spoken.

I hope you are right.


My prediction is that Rogue makes the final if he beats TY.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
November 01 2018 13:14 GMT
#34
Dark pls win
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-01 13:16:39
November 01 2018 13:16 GMT
#35
On November 01 2018 21:37 Rodya wrote:
These predictions seem to come from the heart, I guess there's no law against that. Personally I can't agree that Serral's ZvZ is too good to beat. At the last foreigner tournament, he barely beat three foreigners in ZvZ. You could argue that he won that tournament because of Reynor's nerves, as it was Reynor's first finals. Rogue and Dark are both much better ZvZ than those players, and so while Serral can beat them, I think it's quite unlikely that he beats both of them.

Btw even if these are dreams and not analysis-based predictions, I think that it would have been cool if you guys weren't all so similar in your feelings. Why is it always a Serral vs Maru finals? This could have been an article where you tell stories about different dream scenarios from different perspectives. Instead they are all about Serral/Maru acheiving destiny or something. I mean what about sOs vs Rogue/Serral/Dark? Stats vs Dark? I mean there are lots of great, epic stories you could tell here.


I don't think any of us went purely by heart in these predictions. If I did, Dark would be champion in my bracket.
Here's my head reasoning for Dark not getting through Serral (albeit barely): While Serral looked more vulnerable in ZvZ than any other match-up, he still always edged out a win in the end. Nerves of steel. Dark - at least at the moment - can't seem to match that in high pressure situations. Serral simply makes less mistakes.
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uummpaa
Profile Joined July 2018
238 Posts
November 01 2018 13:23 GMT
#36
i was rooting otherwise anyway, but at this point i really wish that the maru/serral final doesnt happen, since it never could life up to the hype its getting right now.

especially with the draw the way it is, i think said final is not a very likely thing to happen. and i fear a little, that the dissapointment about that might spoil the actual final

is just my opinion though, maybe i'm wrong with that
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 01 2018 13:27 GMT
#37
No Stats vs TY prediction, disappointing!

But I guess if I had to bet money, I would also go with Maru vs Serral. Maybe Stats vs Serral.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
November 01 2018 13:34 GMT
#38
Theoneaboveyou
Both Maru and Serral are proven stone cold killers with ice water for blood, but in all the years of watching StarCraft 2 I have learnt one thing: of all the icy veined killers on this planet, Korean Terrans are by far the scariest.

This made me grin, great writeup.

I kind of agree with most writers but I think the most likely alternative if the favorites gets upset is actually Special vs Rogue. I think Special has a good chance against Stats and I believe Special has a better chance against Maru than Stats, just because of how volatile TvT can be. Maybe I'm just too awed by Specials play vs Classic to make decent calls but also consider that Special was the one helping TY prepare for the GSL finals against Maru that went 4-3 in an incredibly close series.
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
November 01 2018 13:44 GMT
#39
On November 01 2018 22:23 uummpaa wrote:
i was rooting otherwise anyway, but at this point i really wish that the maru/serral final doesnt happen, since it never could life up to the hype its getting right now.


There's a very real chance of the final not happening, it's just hard to guess where the upset will happen.
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DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
November 01 2018 13:45 GMT
#40
I think at this point calling it extremely unlikely that serral makes the finals is crazy. He looked insanely good in the group stages (though that was in a matchup hes not likely to play again). The dude looks strong. Im still pulling for Maru in my heart but the fact that he likely has to face 2 of the scariest protoss in the world in what has looked like his most vulnerable matchup is definitely something to worry about. On the other hand Serrals path is no less treacherous. Dark is capable of a monstrous zvz..and regardless of who he meets in ro4 if he manages to beat Dark he has his work cut out for him. Ty looked mortal vs lambo which speaks well for Serral. Rogue on the other hand I still think has an excellent shot to win the whole thing. If he can get by Serral i personally like his chances better than anyone to take out the King Maru. Hes no doubt played 1000s of practice games with him and weve all seen how the series between them normally goes. Maru putting on insane aggression and if rogue is able to absorb it he pulls out the W. I think in a bo7 this goes to Rogue as an advantage.. so im calling it maru over sos/stats over special / maru over stats. Rogue over ty serral over dark rogue over serral and rogue over maru 4 3 in an epic finals that will make me cry myself to sleep!
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