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Poland3015 Posts
Meanwhile Aligulac predicts this:
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Win Top 2 Top 4 Top 8
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Maru 36.17% 11.35% 13.85% 38.62%
Serral 26.58% 22.86% 26.28% 24.29%
TY 10.91% 14.51% 32.21% 42.37%
Dark 7.85% 7.54% 8.89% 75.71%
Stats 7.11% 20.58% 46.06% 26.25%
sOs 6.54% 15.15% 16.94% 61.38%
Rogue 4.29% 5.46% 32.62% 57.63%
SpeCial 0.55% 2.56% 23.15% 73.75%
+ Show Spoiler + Maru 3 ┐
├──────── Maru 3 ┐
sOs 2 ┘ │
├──────── Maru 4 ┐
SpeCial 1 ┐ │ │
├─────── Stats 1 ┘ │
Stats 3 ┘ │
├─ Maru
Rogue 2 ┐ │
├────────── TY 2 ┐ │
TY 3 ┘ │ │
├────── Serral 2 ┘
Dark 1 ┐ │
├────── Serral 3 ┘
Serral 3 ┘
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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On November 02 2018 15:12 StasisField wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2018 06:03 Fango wrote:On November 02 2018 04:04 StasisField wrote:On November 01 2018 23:38 ParksonVN wrote:
I'm so disappointed by how biased some parts of the community are. It's been 8 years of wonderful SC2 with countless fantastic moments and some people still say that it would be the best thing in the history of the game "for them" that Serral wins Blizzcon ??? Best thing for what? A foreigner finally wins? Were you not that entertained when guys like MVP, Life, sOs, Inno, Taeja ... gave us their best games? So people aren't personally allowed to find the idea of the "under dog" region rising to the ocassion and winning it all to be the most satisfying storyline because you personally find that ridiculous? Don't you see how hypocritical and lacking in self-awareness that is? Thing is Serral shouldn't be considered an underdog. It's not like europe is a deprived region when it comes to pro gaming either. Pros struggling to get as good as koreans is due to the amount of work they put in. Serral put in the work and is getting the results. He should be taken as seriously as Dark or Rogue, not as some incredible underdog doing the impossible. It's cool that a european player is competing at the highest level. It's not the best storyline of all time. If he wins blizzcon I don't see how it's any better than Rogue's story from last year. In fact I'd argue Rogue's was better because of how much harder it was for him to qualify. "Foreigner" was a term the Koreans started using for a reason, and it's not because they saw those outside the region as equals. Serral himself isn't an under dog, but it's quite the feat in and of itself that he has managed to get on an even playing field with the Korean region, the region that has dominated the field of play without question for nearly 2 decades. Serral had plenty of reason to not rise to the ocassion: lack of a teamhouse environment still enjoyed by JAGW and the teachings and skills that environment provided the other Koreans before its collapse, lacking practice partners as skilled as the Koreans in Europe, refusing to train in Korea to play the best when that was a viable option this year with the foreigner teamhouse, the pressure of being the foreigner carrying the torch getting to him, and more. Serral had plenty of reasons to buckle and become like all the other foreigner "hopes," but he didn't buckle. In fact, he flourished and he very well could upset the long established order of the Starcraft world. That might not be the best storyline to you, but to others, like me, it is. As my original comment suggested, we don't have to agree on what we think is the best storyline, but I think we should at least try and respect differing opinions until we're given a reason not to.
So a player that is really good at the game happens to be born in a different country than most other players who are really good at the game. Cool storyline. Don't come with the teamhouse argument - lots of koreans already proved you can become really good without a teamhouse (ByuN, TaeJa)
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If sOs can kill both Maru & Serral this blizzcon would be perfect. Teaching kids what being clutch actually means.
Since it's prolly not gonna happen I'd just be content with Serral losing horribly to either Dark or Rogue.
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On November 02 2018 10:22 ZackAttack wrote:
I find it so funny that people are hating/doubting Serral. Every time he plays people doubt him and he delivers every time. I fully expect him to make the finals and I can't see him losing to anyone but Maru.
Nobody doubts him in the foreigner events.
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Do we have a "Blizzcon 2018" Thread?
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I was thinking about the bracket for sometime now and I think we will be denied the Maru vs Serral final.
Maru can be killed by both Stats and sOs who even thou played pretty badly in group stages he still improved from game to game.
On the other side of the bracket both Dark and Rogue are formidable ZvZers who can try to cooparate in finding some weekness in Serrals play. Also wild TY might appear and follow the usual "Korean Terran vs Foregin Zerg" narrative.
One way or the another I think there will be at least some surprises.
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So a player that is really good at the game happens to be born in a different country than most other players who are really good at the game. Cool storyline. Don't come with the teamhouse argument - lots of koreans already proved you can become really good without a teamhouse (ByuN, TaeJa)
It's pretty daft to act like that isn't a thing that matters to a lot of people, as if Iceland at the Euros didn't happen, or the Jamaican Women's bobsled team. Only watching Brazil play Soccer or Canada play Hockey would be boring as shit which is why it isn't a thing.
Harping on the teamhouse point (while ignoring everything else said) doesn't really make your argument either, Byun's story in GSL/Blizzcon that year was a huge deal exactly because of what he accomplished teamless, there were articles about it in places SC2 is barely talked about, if Serral pulls of what is hoped of him the hype about isn't any more misplaced than previous champs. I find it odd that people seem to think everyone who wants Serral to win apparently have never cared one bit about Korean Starcraft and were never probably fans of one and don't have their own past favourite hype finals or something.
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Quite strange that (almost) all of the finals predictions are Maru vs Serral, although it is the obvious dream scenario.
If a Maru vs Serral final would happen, I would see Maru taking that series, otherwise I think Rogue or TY actually have good shot at taking the whole tournament.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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hahaha this was really fun to read. thanks!
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I hope Serral wins. If not Serral then Special. If one of the Koreans wins I do not really care which one. Normally I would root for Maru but I really dislike the proxy meta.
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Beep boop, im from the future
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On November 02 2018 21:06 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2018 10:22 ZackAttack wrote:
I find it so funny that people are hating/doubting Serral. Every time he plays people doubt him and he delivers every time. I fully expect him to make the finals and I can't see him losing to anyone but Maru. Nobody doubts him in the foreigner events.
This is exactly what I mean, lol. He won GSL vs. the World. He just rolled over Zest and $o$ like they were scrubs. He has not only played foreigners and every time he has to play a Korean people are hoping that this is when he falls apart and he still hasn't. It's blind hate that keeps moving the goal posts forever. Reminds me of people that hate on LeBron because he's in the East.
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On November 03 2018 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Beep boop, im from the future
I see you're quite a sodium amateur.
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Where are people getting this ''Best ZvZ in the world thing from?''
The guy who was taken to match point by multiple tier 3 zergs in Montreal?
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lol at that hilarious Korean logic leap referring to an Italian 16 year old who almost won his RO16 group in his first ever GSL as a tier 3 Zerg despite attempting the exact thing being held against Serral. And I guess that makes his upcoming RO8 opponent a tier 3 zerg too.
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On November 03 2018 03:09 Morbidius wrote:
Where are people getting this ''Best ZvZ in the world thing from?''
The guy who was taken to match point by multiple tier 3 zergs in Montreal?
he won a tournament so obviously he's by far the best player in the world and the best player in ZvZ, ZvT, ZvP.
Oh and he's also the best in PvP, PvZ, PvT, TvT, TvZ and TvP.
Not sure why we're even watching, Serral would never drop a map anyway. Bonjwa.
He could probably switch to other games and instantly dominate them too while continuing to win every single map in sc2 while playing blindfolded, with one hand and without a monitor.
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Welp. We really should have seen that coming, huh?
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Every single bracket is wrong after the first game hah.
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