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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
October 30 2018 15:08 GMT
#101
On October 30 2018 12:12 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 11:49 ProFalseIdol wrote:
On October 29 2018 22:49 Rodya wrote:
On October 29 2018 22:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:24 Geo.Rion wrote:
After watching that series vs Classic im getting on the Juanito train

Maru 3 -0 SoS
Stats 2 - 3 Special
Rogue 3 - 2 TY
Dark 0 - 3 Serral
Maru 3 -1 Special
Serral 3 - 1 Rogue

Maru ? - ? Serral

Special played great, but Classic has been a foreigner punching bag this year lol.

Yeah it's not like he completely embarassed Serral at IEM Katowice... wait he did do that.


Maru also made Serral literally a punching bag during their BO3 at WESG this year.

And afterwards Serral walked over Classic and beat Maru in a bo1 at a korean event that he won. But obviously only the results at the early year count, why don't we just forget everything else that happened after that.


Don't forget how Maru played in this bo1. You shouldn't even emphasize this match.

He doesnt play like that against top zergs when the match is important.
TL+ Member
Hvvacha
Profile Joined April 2018
82 Posts
October 30 2018 15:15 GMT
#102
On October 30 2018 23:49 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 21:10 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 30 2018 12:12 Luolis wrote:
On October 30 2018 11:49 ProFalseIdol wrote:
On October 29 2018 22:49 Rodya wrote:
On October 29 2018 22:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:24 Geo.Rion wrote:
After watching that series vs Classic im getting on the Juanito train

Maru 3 -0 SoS
Stats 2 - 3 Special
Rogue 3 - 2 TY
Dark 0 - 3 Serral
Maru 3 -1 Special
Serral 3 - 1 Rogue

Maru ? - ? Serral

Special played great, but Classic has been a foreigner punching bag this year lol.

Yeah it's not like he completely embarassed Serral at IEM Katowice... wait he did do that.


Maru also made Serral literally a punching bag during their BO3 at WESG this year.

And afterwards Serral walked over Classic and beat Maru in a bo1 at a korean event that he won. But obviously only the results at the early year count, why don't we just forget everything else that happened after that.

You really value BO1 of fun match the same as BO3 of a tournament? Seriously?

What is with the misinformation in this these TL threads? Maru won a Bo5 against Serral at WESG. It was only 3 games though because Maru dismantled Serral in each game. Watch game 3 if you want to see Maru play with his food.

And the Bo1 that Maru and Serral played doesn't count, but Serral fans of course will deny this lol, just like they deny his losses to Classic and Maru this year (how often do you hear Serral fans say that he has won every tournament that he has attended? I've actually heard Incontrol say this before).


People are already brainwashed that they think serral is the most successful sc2 player of all time, someone was asking this exact question on stream.
TrashPanda
Profile Joined July 2018
69 Posts
October 30 2018 16:01 GMT
#103
On October 31 2018 00:02 Dingodile wrote:
Funny how Maru and Serral have the hardest route to grandfinal (most likely 2x TvP and 2x ZvZ). Both would prefer any other opponent.

edit: If you swap Maru and Serral spots, both would have the easiest route to grandfinal.

Why would Maru have an easier road vs Z? He said himself that he feels most comfortable in TvP, and if you've watched GSL it's not too hard to believe that statement, seeing how he dismantled Stats, Zest x2 and Classic. His TvZ's on the other hand were always pretty close series...
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States729 Posts
October 30 2018 16:46 GMT
#104
On October 29 2018 21:41 BlingBlang wrote:
Anyone that thinks Dark or Rogue stands a chance against Serral's ZvZ is crazy. I'd give Lambo or Elazer more chance than any Korean zerg. Korean ZvZ is so far behind Europe's.



Given all the Zergs in Europe, this is actually a really interesting point. Serral has been an absolute machine, and his ZvZ is terrific.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
October 30 2018 16:58 GMT
#105
Then remember soO vs Serral.

Even though he is the favourite dont think it will be an easy match against Dark.
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Devin1
Profile Joined June 2018
14 Posts
October 30 2018 17:18 GMT
#106
I hope Dark 3-0's Serral and shuts down all the annoying foreign hype.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
October 30 2018 17:27 GMT
#107
On October 31 2018 02:18 Devin1 wrote:
I hope Dark 3-0's Serral and shuts down all the annoying foreign hype.


People have been saying this all year :p.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States729 Posts
October 30 2018 17:40 GMT
#108
On October 31 2018 00:02 Dingodile wrote:
Funny how Maru and Serral have the hardest route to grandfinal (most likely 2x TvP and 2x ZvZ). Both would prefer any other opponent.

edit: If you swap Maru and Serral spots, both would have the easiest route to grandfinal.



Serral would be seriously threatened by Stats (~40%), Maru (~60%), TY (~45%), Rogue (~50%), and Dark (~40%). (Stats is better against T and P.)

Maru would be seriously threatened by sOs (~55%), Stats (~45%), and Serral (~40%).

So I agree that Maru has the hardest route, because he got paired with the one protoss that makes him look silly.

On the other hand, sOs could win the whole thing, but only if he doesn't need to play PvZ, meaning TY gets through somehow.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
October 30 2018 17:42 GMT
#109
On October 31 2018 02:27 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2018 02:18 Devin1 wrote:
I hope Dark 3-0's Serral and shuts down all the annoying foreign hype.


People have been saying this all year :p.

yeah... Serral getting 3-0ed doesn't shut down the hype around him
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-30 17:54:27
October 30 2018 17:49 GMT
#110
Luckily we still have aam spam and pretty much as experienced of a Serral on the bigger stage potentially vs maru so surely that 3-0 almost 8 months ago is extremely relevant (also serral didn't make any of the games competetive ...just like he wouldn't make them competetive this weekend).

Hyperbole is fun though.
why even
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5616 Posts
October 30 2018 18:06 GMT
#111
On October 31 2018 02:18 Devin1 wrote:
I hope Dark 3-0's Serral and shuts down all the annoying foreign hype.

The hockey gifs cannot be stopped.
don't wall off against random
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7170 Posts
October 30 2018 18:35 GMT
#112
On October 30 2018 23:49 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 21:10 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 30 2018 12:12 Luolis wrote:
On October 30 2018 11:49 ProFalseIdol wrote:
On October 29 2018 22:49 Rodya wrote:
On October 29 2018 22:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:24 Geo.Rion wrote:
After watching that series vs Classic im getting on the Juanito train

Maru 3 -0 SoS
Stats 2 - 3 Special
Rogue 3 - 2 TY
Dark 0 - 3 Serral
Maru 3 -1 Special
Serral 3 - 1 Rogue

Maru ? - ? Serral

Special played great, but Classic has been a foreigner punching bag this year lol.

Yeah it's not like he completely embarassed Serral at IEM Katowice... wait he did do that.


Maru also made Serral literally a punching bag during their BO3 at WESG this year.

And afterwards Serral walked over Classic and beat Maru in a bo1 at a korean event that he won. But obviously only the results at the early year count, why don't we just forget everything else that happened after that.

You really value BO1 of fun match the same as BO3 of a tournament? Seriously?

What is with the misinformation in this these TL threads? Maru won a Bo5 against Serral at WESG. It was only 3 games though because Maru dismantled Serral in each game. Watch game 3 if you want to see Maru play with his food.

And the Bo1 that Maru and Serral played doesn't count, but Serral fans of course will deny this lol, just like they deny his losses to Classic and Maru this year (how often do you hear Serral fans say that he has won every tournament that he has attended? I've actually heard Incontrol say this before).

My point for you numbskulls is that you keep citing results from the early year that happen to favor your thoughts, while conveniently forgetting whatever happened in the rest of the year, including Maru losing to SOS out of all people in last GSL invitational and Serral walking over pretty much everyone in the rest of the year.

User was warned for this post
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DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany330 Posts
October 30 2018 18:49 GMT
#113
On October 30 2018 16:24 neutralrobot wrote:
My guess for the next round:

(T)Maru 3-0 (P)sOs
(T)SpeCial 3-2 (P)Stats (!)
(T)TY 3-2 (Z)Rogue
(Z)Serral 3-1 (Z)Dark



i would love that results !
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 30 2018 19:11 GMT
#114
On October 31 2018 00:02 Dingodile wrote:
Funny how Maru and Serral have the hardest route to grandfinal

I'm surprised by this opinion. What about all the people who have to beat either Maru or Serral to get to the grand final (everyone else)? Is it really that much easier for them?
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States729 Posts
October 30 2018 19:13 GMT
#115
Maru 3-2 sOs
Special 1-3 Stats
TY 1-3 Rogue
Serral 3-2 Dark
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-30 19:25:39
October 30 2018 19:24 GMT
#116
On October 31 2018 04:11 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2018 00:02 Dingodile wrote:
Funny how Maru and Serral have the hardest route to grandfinal

I'm surprised by this opinion. What about all the people who have to beat either Maru or Serral to get to the grand final (everyone else)? Is it really that much easier for them?

I am sorry, I was only thinking about that two players. They got the worst opponents (TvP and ZvZ in ro8 and ro4 most likely) in my opinion. I really really want Maru vs Serral at grandfinal.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
October 30 2018 20:08 GMT
#117
special gets to R04 no problem. can he beat maru tho? i think so.
Squitle-MC-Parting-Major-Polt
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
October 30 2018 20:26 GMT
#118
On October 31 2018 04:11 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2018 00:02 Dingodile wrote:
Funny how Maru and Serral have the hardest route to grandfinal

I'm surprised by this opinion. What about all the people who have to beat either Maru or Serral to get to the grand final (everyone else)? Is it really that much easier for them?

Yes.
Stats and Dark have it easy.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
October 30 2018 20:29 GMT
#119
Tbh, it's really hard to give a prediction this year. Literally everyone could become the next champion. Judging from the performances last weekend I'd say:

Maru - sOs 3:1
Special - Stats 2:3
Rogue - TY 3:1
Dark - Serral 2:3

Maru - Special 3:1
Rogue - Serral 2:3

Maru - Serral 4:3

However, if TY and sOs get back into their form everything might change again.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
October 30 2018 21:54 GMT
#120
On October 31 2018 03:35 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 23:49 Rodya wrote:
On October 30 2018 21:10 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 30 2018 12:12 Luolis wrote:
On October 30 2018 11:49 ProFalseIdol wrote:
On October 29 2018 22:49 Rodya wrote:
On October 29 2018 22:40 BisuDagger wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:24 Geo.Rion wrote:
After watching that series vs Classic im getting on the Juanito train

Maru 3 -0 SoS
Stats 2 - 3 Special
Rogue 3 - 2 TY
Dark 0 - 3 Serral
Maru 3 -1 Special
Serral 3 - 1 Rogue

Maru ? - ? Serral

Special played great, but Classic has been a foreigner punching bag this year lol.

Yeah it's not like he completely embarassed Serral at IEM Katowice... wait he did do that.


Maru also made Serral literally a punching bag during their BO3 at WESG this year.

And afterwards Serral walked over Classic and beat Maru in a bo1 at a korean event that he won. But obviously only the results at the early year count, why don't we just forget everything else that happened after that.

You really value BO1 of fun match the same as BO3 of a tournament? Seriously?

What is with the misinformation in this these TL threads? Maru won a Bo5 against Serral at WESG. It was only 3 games though because Maru dismantled Serral in each game. Watch game 3 if you want to see Maru play with his food.

And the Bo1 that Maru and Serral played doesn't count, but Serral fans of course will deny this lol, just like they deny his losses to Classic and Maru this year (how often do you hear Serral fans say that he has won every tournament that he has attended? I've actually heard Incontrol say this before).

My point for you numbskulls is that you keep citing results from the early year that happen to favor your thoughts, while conveniently forgetting whatever happened in the rest of the year, including Maru losing to SOS out of all people in last GSL invitational and Serral walking over pretty much everyone in the rest of the year.

User was warned for this post

I wouldn't consider 3-2ing / 4-3ing his way to Montreal walking over everyone though.
And that Maru vs sOs was kinda like Serral vs Neeb
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