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sOs: Rounding Third - Road to BlizzCon 2018 (#15) - Page 3

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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18146 Posts
October 25 2018 11:15 GMT
#41
I am utterly baffled by the order in which TL is publishing these. Did they just ask random.org to sort them or something?
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
October 25 2018 11:43 GMT
#42
SoS vs widow mines... always a treat to watch!
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 11:45:55
October 25 2018 11:44 GMT
#43
On October 25 2018 20:15 Acrofales wrote:
I am utterly baffled by the order in which TL is publishing these. Did they just ask random.org to sort them or something?


it's the order in which they finished writing the articles.

what do you expect? and why do you care?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 25 2018 11:47 GMT
#44
On October 25 2018 20:15 Acrofales wrote:
I am utterly baffled by the order in which TL is publishing these. Did they just ask random.org to sort them or something?

Its the order in which they had their best tournament runs.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 12:07:31
October 25 2018 12:06 GMT
#45
On October 25 2018 20:44 MrMischelito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 20:15 Acrofales wrote:
I am utterly baffled by the order in which TL is publishing these. Did they just ask random.org to sort them or something?


it's the order in which they finished writing the articles.

what do you expect? and why do you care?


On October 25 2018 20:47 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 20:15 Acrofales wrote:
I am utterly baffled by the order in which TL is publishing these. Did they just ask random.org to sort them or something?

Its the order in which they had their best tournament runs.


These are both wrong, I explained it the other day.

On October 24 2018 17:39 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 09:54 argonautdice wrote:
On October 13 2018 00:39 Fango wrote:
On October 12 2018 23:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Matches between 2011-11-15 and 2018-10-12.
Maybe the release order of the articles has to do with the time, like the date when the players had their peak achievement of the year? There's the month January in both Nerchio's and Showtime's picture, both had their best result in January and Nerchio had it first. I didn't check all players if Rogue would be the next one though.

Given their were no tournaments between Leipzig (where Showtime made the final) and Katowice that would make sense.

This also means the release order would look something like:

1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. Stats - April 8th (Super tournament win)
6. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
7. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
8. HeRoMaRinE - July 14th (WCS Valencia ro4)
9. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
10. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
11. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
14. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)

Though I expect Serral and Maru to be the last released for hype reasons.


Wow Fango is a genius. Got everything right except Stats (GSL vs World 2nd instead of Super Tournament #1 win), Heromarine (WCS Montreal Ro8 instead of Valencia Ro4??? makes no sense), and TY/Maru swap (which in retrospect to his sOs/Classic order should've been swapped).

Actual release order:
1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
6. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
7. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
8. Stats - August 5th (GSL vs the World 2nd)
9. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
10. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
11. HeRoMaRinE - September 9th (WCS Montreal Ro8)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
14. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
And most likely:
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)


Since it's all been revealed by now, the focus was never on every player's best tournament of the year. It was one that we thought really summed up their narrative going into the Global Finals—or their Road to BlizzCon, if you will. We did this through a vote (similar to Power Ranks). In Heromarine's case for example, we thought the Ro8 elimination by TIME said a lot about where he stands. He's a good player and he's gradually improving, but losing a series like that really tells you he's not the finished article.

It just so happens that a lot of the defining moments were also the best placements of these players.


Then we released them in the chronological order of those moments we picked.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
October 25 2018 13:24 GMT
#46
God that final line is amazing.$O$!!!!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
October 25 2018 15:25 GMT
#47
On October 25 2018 06:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 06:28 Edpayasugo wrote:
On October 25 2018 05:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 25 2018 05:32 Edpayasugo wrote:
The standout member of Woongjin Stars surpassed all expectations on his semifinals run, barely losing out to eventual champion Soulkey

Not sure how this can be true given that Soulkey himself was on Woonjin and was the ace.

This is about GSL, thankfully teammates can play against each other in individual leagues


I'm not sure what you mean, I'm saying that Soulkey was the standout member of Woonjin, not sOs

Oh that angle, well even then sOs had the best record and won just as many ace matches.


Looking back at the stats, youre right, but I still don't think it makes sense to call sOs the standout, given Soulkey achievements that year.
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
October 25 2018 15:28 GMT
#48
On October 25 2018 21:06 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 20:44 MrMischelito wrote:
On October 25 2018 20:15 Acrofales wrote:
I am utterly baffled by the order in which TL is publishing these. Did they just ask random.org to sort them or something?


it's the order in which they finished writing the articles.

what do you expect? and why do you care?


Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 20:47 Fango wrote:
On October 25 2018 20:15 Acrofales wrote:
I am utterly baffled by the order in which TL is publishing these. Did they just ask random.org to sort them or something?

Its the order in which they had their best tournament runs.


These are both wrong, I explained it the other day.

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 17:39 Olli wrote:
On October 24 2018 09:54 argonautdice wrote:
On October 13 2018 00:39 Fango wrote:
On October 12 2018 23:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Matches between 2011-11-15 and 2018-10-12.
Maybe the release order of the articles has to do with the time, like the date when the players had their peak achievement of the year? There's the month January in both Nerchio's and Showtime's picture, both had their best result in January and Nerchio had it first. I didn't check all players if Rogue would be the next one though.

Given their were no tournaments between Leipzig (where Showtime made the final) and Katowice that would make sense.

This also means the release order would look something like:

1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. Stats - April 8th (Super tournament win)
6. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
7. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
8. HeRoMaRinE - July 14th (WCS Valencia ro4)
9. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
10. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
11. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
14. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)

Though I expect Serral and Maru to be the last released for hype reasons.


Wow Fango is a genius. Got everything right except Stats (GSL vs World 2nd instead of Super Tournament #1 win), Heromarine (WCS Montreal Ro8 instead of Valencia Ro4??? makes no sense), and TY/Maru swap (which in retrospect to his sOs/Classic order should've been swapped).

Actual release order:
1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
6. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
7. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
8. Stats - August 5th (GSL vs the World 2nd)
9. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
10. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
11. HeRoMaRinE - September 9th (WCS Montreal Ro8)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
14. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
And most likely:
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)


Since it's all been revealed by now, the focus was never on every player's best tournament of the year. It was one that we thought really summed up their narrative going into the Global Finals—or their Road to BlizzCon, if you will. We did this through a vote (similar to Power Ranks). In Heromarine's case for example, we thought the Ro8 elimination by TIME said a lot about where he stands. He's a good player and he's gradually improving, but losing a series like that really tells you he's not the finished article.

It just so happens that a lot of the defining moments were also the best placements of these players.


Then we released them in the chronological order of those moments we picked.


Another great series of articles, always a highlight of the year, thank you and well done.
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Seracis
Profile Joined April 2018
Germany20 Posts
October 25 2018 18:13 GMT
#49
The last sentence really got me. And I hope that it will turn out true!
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
October 25 2018 18:28 GMT
#50
Probably an unpopular opinion, but i dont expect much of him. All year he hardly achieved anything. i am not sure how much he practised throughout the year and now before blizzcon. There is some truth to it that he oculd make major runs out of nowhere, but i give Zest more chance and Serral much more chance of advancing.
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