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On October 18 2018 17:57 MockHamill wrote: Expected to win: Maru, Serral
Could win: Dark, TY, Rogue, Classic
Can go far but will not win: Neeb, Zest, sOs, Stats
Participating is always fun: ShowTime, SpeCial, Lambo, Nerchio, HeroMarine, Has
On October 18 2018 17:57 MockHamill wrote:
Can go far but will not win: Neeb, Zest, sOs, Stats
On October 18 2018 17:57 MockHamill wrote:
Can go far but will not win: sOs
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On October 18 2018 00:13 Tempest wrote: 1. Maru 2. Serral 3. Stats 4. Classic 5. TY 6. Rogue 7. sOs 8. Dark 9. Neeb 10. Zest 11. ShowTime 12. SpeCial 13. Lambo 14. HeroMarine 15. Nerchio 16. Has
This is IMO fairly accurate with a few people able to +/-1 or tie with the person above them.
Classic has the easiest group imo, ill be shocked if TY and Maru don't make it out of their group, and Serral SHOULD make it out barring self-inflicted crap play.
IMO, if anybody has the best chance besides maru and serral to win the whole thing, it will be classic or TY( TY due to it being a tossup in the TvT vs Maru). I think TY and serral are tied for having the best chance to beat maru. Should be best global finals yet.
I've made the mistake of counting sOs out of a Blizzcon too many times before. Not gonna make that mistake again.
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Part of me wants Has to win so enough people leave to kill the game and we can all realize that shitty cheese strategies really are the best
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1. Maru 2. Stats 3. Dark 4. TY 5. Serral 6. Classic 7. Rogue 8. sOs 9. Neeb 10. Showtime 11. Special 12. Heromarine 13. Lambo 14. Nerchio 15. Has 16. Zest
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On October 18 2018 17:57 MockHamill wrote: Expected to win: Maru, Serral
Could win: Dark, TY, Rogue, Classic
Can go far but will not win: Neeb, Zest, sOs, Stats
Participating is always fun: ShowTime, SpeCial, Lambo, Nerchio, HeroMarine, Has
Not bad, I heckin agree mostly, but I would name the category "Can go far but SHOULDNT win" and id move stats up to the "could win" category.
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i don't think dark ty rogue or classic can win, but i do think sOs can. for whatever reason, i don't think maru can win either. everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think.
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Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith!
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On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith!
3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol.
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On October 18 2018 23:34 nanaoei wrote: everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think. The stupid part is that they won't. They never do. No matter how predictable Maru's use of 2 rax becomes.
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On October 18 2018 23:34 nanaoei wrote: i don't think dark ty rogue or classic can win, but i do think sOs can. for whatever reason, i don't think maru can win either. everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think. Yeah agreed. During his GSL runs nobody knew that Maru likes to proxy so they didn't prepare for it. Now they will just counter it and win easily.
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I like MockHamill's format so I'm copying it mostly.
Expected to win: Maru
Could win: Stats, Serral, Dark, Classic
Can go far but I don't think will win: Neeb, Zest, sOs, TY, Rogue
Participating is always fun: ShowTime, SpeCial, Lambo, Nerchio, HeroMarine, Has
I do think Showtime can make it past the group though if Dark wins against Stats and he knocks out Stats. It's possible. Lambo has a too rough group. Special and Nerchio also have a shot at doing it if one of the guys beats Rogue, which does seem possible.
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1. Maru 2. Serral 3. TY 4. Stats 5. Classic 6. Dark 7. Zest 8. Rogue 9. Special 10. sOs 11. Neeb 12. ShowTime 13. Lambo 14. Heromarine 15. Nerchio 16. Has
This is what I think TL will have, I agree if only Serral would be a bit lower, maybe 4th with TY and Stats above.
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On October 19 2018 00:31 Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith! 3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol.
The counter argument is that even if Maru 3 GSL win are more impressive than Serral 4 WCS + GSL vs the World win. Maru did lose once in a while, and Serral as not lose a single match since the start of Mai, and it was a bo1, in fact we need to go back to March for him to lose his last bo3+ (vs non other than Maru itself). Altought he did lose 2 bo1 back to back vs SoO in Nation War so that kind of count too.
So all and all I think Maru still deserve to be first but it's still a bit weird to do so when he just lost his last tournament and in the meanwhile Serral won everything he was in for the last 6 months even if it was mostly against a weaker field.
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My Ranking: 1. Dark 2. Maru 3. Serral 4. Stats 5. sOs 6. TY 7. Classic 8. Neeb 9. Rogue 10.Special 11.Lambo 12. Zest 13. Showtime 14. Nerchio 15. Heromarine 16. Has
Dark's Blizzcon sorry doubters.
TL's Power rank: Having a hard time predicting which Liquid player they will put 1st
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On October 19 2018 03:19 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2018 00:31 Tempest wrote:On October 18 2018 23:36 opisska wrote: Really nobody thinks that TL will put Serral #1? Such a lack of faith! 3 GSL championships back to back is more significant than Serrals impressive rampage to probably 99.9% of the community. Nothing against serral, but if TL doesnt rank Maru first, they haven't been paying attention and have limited understanding of how difficult each tournament is in comparison to each other lol. The counter argument is that even if Maru 3 GSL win are more impressive than Serral 4 WCS + GSL vs the World win. Maru did lose once in a while, and Serral as not lose a single match since the start of Mai, and it was a bo1, in fact we need to go back to March for him to lose his last bo3+ (vs non other than Maru itself). Altought he did lose 2 bo1 back to back vs SoO in Nation War so that kind of count too. Should you get credit for not losing a match if you avoid any opponents close to you in skill?
(I'm not actually saying Serral shouldn't get credit for it, he should, but winning 90% of the time against the best in the world is harder than winning 100% while smurfing).
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On October 19 2018 00:53 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2018 23:34 nanaoei wrote: i don't think dark ty rogue or classic can win, but i do think sOs can. for whatever reason, i don't think maru can win either. everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think. Yeah agreed. During his GSL runs nobody knew that Maru likes to proxy so they didn't prepare for it. Now they will just counter it and win easily.
thanks for the sarcasm, they're literally playing for 10x the prize as GSL. if the case were that players would overprepare for something, that is entirely legitimate but there is not a single reason why more individuals won't be more ready for it than ever before.
there isn't a straight up counter to it as you need to either commit to scouting one side or shallow scout on each side which becomes a heavy guessing game that ends up in seeing the lack of a barracks in the main and probably never finding the rax position in the first place. then players need to understand what exactly to do when cyclones are involved as there is a lack of marines or reapers showing. but no doubt it removes it leads to more comfort and removes the possibility of losing outright to the actual cheese portion.
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On October 19 2018 03:37 nanaoei wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2018 00:53 Charoisaur wrote:On October 18 2018 23:34 nanaoei wrote: i don't think dark ty rogue or classic can win, but i do think sOs can. for whatever reason, i don't think maru can win either. everyone that could possibly play him is going to hyper prepare for the few variations of proxy rax, which makes a larger difference than you would think. Yeah agreed. During his GSL runs nobody knew that Maru likes to proxy so they didn't prepare for it. Now they will just counter it and win easily. thanks for the sarcasm, they're literally playing for 10x the prize as GSL. if the case were that players would overprepare for something, that is entirely legitimate but there is not a single reason why more individuals won't be more ready for it than ever before. Remember when Dark played Maru for a $200K prize and didn't realise he always 2 raxes when on the edge?
Maru has been doing this for years. PartinG was calling him out for in like 2015.
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