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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5468 Posts
July 09 2018 17:46 GMT
#61
June 31st eh?

Always fun reading Power Ranks and the ensuing arguments!

Excited to see upcoming matches...
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3765 Posts
July 09 2018 20:20 GMT
#62
(Wiki)INnoVation: INnoVation did what he was expected to do at HomeStory Cup. Good for him! We're still waiting for him to look like his old self in the GSL.

(Wiki)soO: Same as above.

Savage :D
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
July 09 2018 20:44 GMT
#63
Maru is so good it's hard to even understand why he is so good. I think of you look at any other top player they have clear strengths and weeknesses in thee aproach to the game, but Maru he just looks like he has no weekneses. Even when he came is significantly behind in a game he can turn it around with just a few good decisions. Like his failed proxy rax in hos match vs forte. That's the real mind boggling thing about his play even when in situations other Terran players would flat out lose from Maru manges to be ahead of his opponent due to his phenomenal decision making, micro and macro. The guy has no clear flaws.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
July 09 2018 20:45 GMT
#64
On July 10 2018 05:20 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
(Wiki)INnoVation: INnoVation did what he was expected to do at HomeStory Cup. Good for him! We're still waiting for him to look like his old self in the GSL.

(Wiki)soO: Same as above.

Savage :D


Yeah seems overly harsh I think inovation deserves at least a # 10 on this list.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
July 09 2018 21:11 GMT
#65
On July 10 2018 05:44 washikie wrote:
Maru is so good it's hard to even understand why he is so good. I think of you look at any other top player they have clear strengths and weeknesses in thee aproach to the game, but Maru he just looks like he has no weekneses. Even when he came is significantly behind in a game he can turn it around with just a few good decisions. Like his failed proxy rax in hos match vs forte. That's the real mind boggling thing about his play even when in situations other Terran players would flat out lose from Maru manges to be ahead of his opponent due to his phenomenal decision making, micro and macro. The guy has no clear flaws.

Maru is 3-4 tiers above Forte. He loses from that position against almost every other Terran player in the GSL.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-09 21:58:25
July 09 2018 21:44 GMT
#66
On July 10 2018 00:37 Waxangel wrote:
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On July 10 2018 00:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I honestly think the monthly PR just doesn't work that well due to a lack of progames being played. Should maybe try a different scheduling.
That's not even a direct attack at the current ranking (i hardly have any idea how it should look like after the first few places), but just a general thought.


Definitely easier with a Proleague going on... but at least personally I enjoy the structure of a monthly rank over "whenever we feel like it." (no more PR's until TaeJa is out of the military and back in the top ten)

One at the start of each major tournament could work. Although personally I think every month is nice even if a lot of these guys might go a month without playing a match.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 10 2018 00:13 GMT
#67
On July 10 2018 06:44 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2018 00:37 Waxangel wrote:
On July 10 2018 00:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I honestly think the monthly PR just doesn't work that well due to a lack of progames being played. Should maybe try a different scheduling.
That's not even a direct attack at the current ranking (i hardly have any idea how it should look like after the first few places), but just a general thought.


Definitely easier with a Proleague going on... but at least personally I enjoy the structure of a monthly rank over "whenever we feel like it." (no more PR's until TaeJa is out of the military and back in the top ten)

One at the start of each major tournament could work. Although personally I think every month is nice even if a lot of these guys might go a month without playing a match.


It's pretty amazing how much variability there is in # of pro games played. Maru or Classic might play 10 games in a month, whereas GuMiho or Solar might play over a hundred.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
July 10 2018 00:21 GMT
#68
On July 09 2018 16:53 ejozl wrote:
Where is Solar?
I can never get excited by Dear's play no matter how much people hype him, he just doesn't have the micro necessary to be the top Protoss.
I think sOs becomes the best Protoss whenever he deems it worthy and that should be about now, he looked pretty good in his group.
ByuN is also not in a slump anymore.
#1 Rogue
#2 Maru
#3 sOs
#4-10 Solar+SoO+herO+Kr Terrans

How do you rank the guy who loses the bo5 and goes out in the quarter finals higher than the guy who wins back to back titles?
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 10 2018 00:59 GMT
#69
On July 10 2018 09:21 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2018 16:53 ejozl wrote:
Where is Solar?
I can never get excited by Dear's play no matter how much people hype him, he just doesn't have the micro necessary to be the top Protoss.
I think sOs becomes the best Protoss whenever he deems it worthy and that should be about now, he looked pretty good in his group.
ByuN is also not in a slump anymore.
#1 Rogue
#2 Maru
#3 sOs
#4-10 Solar+SoO+herO+Kr Terrans

How do you rank the guy who loses the bo5 and goes out in the quarter finals higher than the guy who wins back to back titles?


Cus he also lives in a world where sOs is #3 and is the best protoss whenever he wants to be.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
July 10 2018 01:05 GMT
#70
On July 10 2018 09:21 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2018 16:53 ejozl wrote:
Where is Solar?
I can never get excited by Dear's play no matter how much people hype him, he just doesn't have the micro necessary to be the top Protoss.
I think sOs becomes the best Protoss whenever he deems it worthy and that should be about now, he looked pretty good in his group.
ByuN is also not in a slump anymore.
#1 Rogue
#2 Maru
#3 sOs
#4-10 Solar+SoO+herO+Kr Terrans

How do you rank the guy who loses the bo5 and goes out in the quarter finals higher than the guy who wins back to back titles?


It's easier than you might think! That guy did it by writing his name and putting "#1" next to it.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
July 10 2018 02:33 GMT
#71
The top 3 can't be debated. I guess you could argue Classic > Rogue, but I don't think so. I'd say TY > Zest, and the bottom half of the rankings are hard to decide.

Obviously Serral should not be on this list, but it's fine. Let the Serral fanboys continue to hype him while he runs away from real competition. The WCS Finals get closer every day, and when Serral gets 3-0'd by Rogue I think that will put this nonsense to rest.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States881 Posts
July 10 2018 04:12 GMT
#72
This may sound a bit weird, but my power rank would put Rogue at #1 over the very person he lost to. It was one of those rare series where the person who looked stronger in my eyes lost. Maru would still be #2; they're both absolute monsters.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
fededevi
Profile Joined April 2018
Italy45 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-10 11:05:41
July 10 2018 09:11 GMT
#73
Rankings compared to Aligulac:

01 (T)Maru + 0
02 (Z)Rogue + 4
03 (P)Classic + 2
04 (P)Zest + 10
05 (T)TY +3
06 (Z)Serral -4
07 (T)GuMiho +0
08 (Z)Dark -4
09 (P)Trap +16
10 (P)Dear +11

The excluded, all considered at eleventh position.

11 (T)INnoVation -8
11 (Z)soO -2
11 (P)Stats +2
11 (T)ByuN +1
11 (P)sOs +4

Not even considered for Top 10 but in Aligulac top 10 ( position 16 after all of the above )

16 (Z)Solar -6

Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 10 2018 12:29 GMT
#74
On July 10 2018 13:12 Kitai wrote:
This may sound a bit weird, but my power rank would put Rogue at #1 over the very person he lost to. It was one of those rare series where the person who looked stronger in my eyes lost. Maru would still be #2; they're both absolute monsters.

You could argue Maru and Rogue are similar head-to-head, but in terms of results Maru is the clear favourate. He has 3 titles (gsl, gsl, wesg) and a top 4 finish (iem) this year. Rogue has one title and that's it for top finishes.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
fededevi
Profile Joined April 2018
Italy45 Posts
July 10 2018 15:51 GMT
#75
On July 10 2018 21:29 Fango wrote:
You could argue Maru and Rogue are similar head-to-head, but in terms of results [...]


Should results 'per se' affect the power rating?
If a player reach the a final without losing a single match but then fails to get the title but another player just barely reach the final and get the title, who is stronger?

I'm not saying this is the case with maru and rogue, I'm just asking a, personally, rethorical question.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
July 10 2018 17:21 GMT
#76
Reynor just smashed his group


Well not really.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
July 10 2018 17:51 GMT
#77
The Serral hate in this thread makes me very disappointed.

Ya'll need Finnish jesus.
Writermaru pls
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 10 2018 18:39 GMT
#78
On July 11 2018 02:51 Soularion wrote:
The Serral hate in this thread makes me very disappointed.

Ya'll need Finnish jesus.

I don't think anyone actually hates Serral, but it does seem a bit (very) far fetched to put him as the #6 best player in the world. Especially because he's managing to climb the ranks without playing any relevent matches.

Do people honestly put him above Dark, Stats, soO, INno, or Gumiho to win a global tournament right now?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-10 19:34:37
July 10 2018 19:34 GMT
#79
On July 11 2018 03:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2018 02:51 Soularion wrote:
The Serral hate in this thread makes me very disappointed.

Ya'll need Finnish jesus.

I don't think anyone actually hates Serral, but it does seem a bit (very) far fetched to put him as the #6 best player in the world. Especially because he's managing to climb the ranks without playing any relevent matches.

Do people honestly put him above Dark, Stats, soO, INno, or Gumiho to win a global tournament right now?


Above soO to win a global tournament? Yeah probably actually, my faith in the greatest of the Kongs is unshakeable.
Kikirik1
Profile Joined January 2017
45 Posts
July 10 2018 20:02 GMT
#80
sc2unmasked.com

It Serral account, seem like he lose all his fights vs Rogue and Soo lately.
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