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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 07 2018 04:36 GMT
#1


https://www.instagram.com/p/BjtYCNdgIU4/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=12crmwocyoibn

Long time Korean Terran player FanTaSy announced today via Instagram that he'll be returning to competitive StarCraft 2, after having retired at the beginning of 2016.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9020 Posts
June 07 2018 04:45 GMT
#2
Interesting choice of game.
Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
June 07 2018 04:46 GMT
#3
ah everyone beat me to it.
Ah well, at least the news is out!
And I'm rather surprised he'd come back to SC2. I always thought he'd be more at home with Brood War, but its always nice to see the opposite happen.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 07 2018 04:50 GMT
#4
!!!



Didn't matter which game he came back to, this makes me very happy. Fantasy was just starting to hit his stride in sc2 when he went off to the military so it'll be interesting to see what he can do in LotV
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
June 07 2018 05:15 GMT
#5
obligatory shout out to
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/195375-fantasys-gg-timing
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 07 2018 05:16 GMT
#6
well, Qikz is certainly gonna be disappointed lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
June 07 2018 05:21 GMT
#7
Fuck Yes! Fantasy is such a cool player! I hope he can do well again.
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
386 Posts
June 07 2018 05:24 GMT
#8
Wooo!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
June 07 2018 05:25 GMT
#9
Maru just lost his #1 spot
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EzioAs
Profile Joined September 2017
235 Posts
June 07 2018 05:34 GMT
#10
Oh, cool! Don't know how well he'll do to even qualify for tournaments since Parting and MMA haven't been able to qualify for most tournaments since quite some time now. We need Code A back.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 07 2018 05:37 GMT
#11
Nice. Hope he can get decent again. Was always fun to watch.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1425 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 05:39:20
June 07 2018 05:39 GMT
#12
TL

It finally is over~! Thank you to all the fellow members of forces who worked hard with me and lets keep in touch~! I decided that I will be returning as SC2 pro-player now. I may have excited some and disappointed some with my decision, but I chose what I think will be best for my abillities, so please cheer me on~!♡


wow, this is really surprising

never expected in my life that Fantasy would choose SC2 and ForGG would choose BW. That seems so weird per say; since it would have been the best in financial point of view that Fantasy choose BW and ForGG choose SC2

but in end of the day, it really isn't all about the money! Follow the #passion
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
June 07 2018 05:44 GMT
#13
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.
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dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
June 07 2018 05:48 GMT
#14
It's very obvious guys... Maru inspired him.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 05:51:35
June 07 2018 05:50 GMT
#15
On June 07 2018 14:44 Waxangel wrote:
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.

only to crash and burn then return to BW to cash in I'm glad that he's doing what's best for himself. We already have Flash in BW, we don't need another great terran there too though I question if he can survive the new level of skill that BW has reached but that's for another thread.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3384 Posts
June 07 2018 05:51 GMT
#16
fantasy gg timings are coming back
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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
June 07 2018 05:58 GMT
#17
It's so great to think of FanTaSy coming back! I would have loved to see him in BW, but he did play some of the most interesting SC2 games ever also, IMO. I hope he gets into GSL-qualifying shape quicker than Parting and MMA so far.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 07 2018 06:09 GMT
#18
Well, I hope he sticks to it. IIRC ForGG said the same but ended up playing BW.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
June 07 2018 06:09 GMT
#19
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

T_T

Why not BW FanTaSy WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME
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jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
June 07 2018 06:18 GMT
#20
OMG fantasy!
I still remember

Memories!
Phase 1: F2    Phase 2: A   Phase 3: Profit!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
June 07 2018 06:21 GMT
#21
Ugh, I want FanTaSy to be happy and I can't dictate to him what makes him happy. I just really don't enjoy following SC2 at all and he's my favourite BW player of all time.

Good luck Jung Myung Hoon, I will support you the best I can, but I can't like SC2 T_T
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
June 07 2018 06:33 GMT
#22
YEASSSSSSSSSSSSSS! I was so disappointed when he left! This is so exciting!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 06:34:34
June 07 2018 06:33 GMT
#23
On June 07 2018 15:18 jy_9876543210 wrote:

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OMG fantasy!
I still remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM5_We_C8kg
Memories!



I was about to post this. That will go down as one of the coolest sc2 moments ever right up there with the BC archon toilet in Mvp vs Squirtle.

The Korean version was even better, they went absolutely apeshit:

4:30

NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 07 2018 06:33 GMT
#24
Are people really surprised? Fantasy has said he likes SC2 more and he played SC2 during his service
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
avanhokie
Profile Joined May 2017
50 Posts
June 07 2018 06:47 GMT
#25
Yeah people are surprised cause BW is easy money for fantasy (Afreeca) whereas SC2 the money is in winning/good results.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 07 2018 07:01 GMT
#26
fun fun
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 07:09:10
June 07 2018 07:08 GMT
#27
On June 07 2018 14:50 BigFan wrote:
we don't need another great terran there

yeah we do

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Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada469 Posts
June 07 2018 07:09 GMT
#28
YESSS I LOVE FANTASY WE NEED HIM BACK
Maru is the best Terran ever.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
June 07 2018 07:11 GMT
#29
ForGG did the same thing before going back to BW
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nighcol
Profile Joined January 2012
298 Posts
June 07 2018 07:16 GMT
#30
Great news! I'm a fan, was very impressed by how humble and friendly he was when I saw him at an SC2 tournament years ago.
Judgement
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands152 Posts
June 07 2018 07:31 GMT
#31
Awesome to see Fantasy back, hope he can make it to Blizzcon again!
"What good fortune for goverments that the people do not think."
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
June 07 2018 07:49 GMT
#32
On June 07 2018 15:33 Ej_ wrote:
Are people really surprised? Fantasy has said he likes SC2 more and he played SC2 during his service


He was also playing BW games with Bisu.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
June 07 2018 08:11 GMT
#33
Awesome, glad to see he's coming back. Would love to see him insane games like the one vs. soO.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
June 07 2018 08:12 GMT
#34
FanTaSy yes !
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 07 2018 08:43 GMT
#35
Amazing to see all these former greats returning to SC2! Hope we get to see him in the first GSL of 2019.

On June 07 2018 15:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2018 15:18 jy_9876543210 wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
OMG fantasy!
I still remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM5_We_C8kg
Memories!



I was about to post this. That will go down as one of the coolest sc2 moments ever right up there with the BC archon toilet in Mvp vs Squirtle.

The Korean version was even better, they went absolutely apeshit:

4:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-Y6cW1Vwc


Lol this is just sick. You really gotta wonder how the hell soO is still playing this game.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 07 2018 08:45 GMT
#36
Pantaji returning to competing in any form is fun!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
smexyco
Profile Joined June 2018
11 Posts
June 07 2018 08:48 GMT
#37
Someone remove retired from his liquidpedia page!!!!
(Wiki)FanTaSy
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 07 2018 08:49 GMT
#38
So even the Terrorist is afraid of God...
gg no re thx
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
June 07 2018 08:55 GMT
#39
Good news!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 09:10:10
June 07 2018 09:07 GMT
#40
Good luck. I still hope he will eventually return to bw. He reached heights in this game that only few have. He even nearly beat Draco in a bo5. Would be a pity.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 09:17:59
June 07 2018 09:16 GMT
#41
everyone cross your fingers that fantasy and true end up playing a series again

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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2087 Posts
June 07 2018 09:39 GMT
#42
crazy but interesting news. Lets hope for the best and see the development. I'm inclined to think that he'll return to bw later none the less after he sees how sc:r has changed it
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
June 07 2018 09:59 GMT
#43
Awesome news! I hope he can be competitive again, his games were always interesting.
Random master race
esReveR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
June 07 2018 10:00 GMT
#44
I was wondering when Fantasy would complete his military service just yesterday. I'm happy to see he'll be back to showing his infamous GG timings. It's very surprising that he decided to go back to SC2. He was never a top tier terran in SC2, so I just assumed he would go back to BW where he was more successful.
Skill is relative.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
June 07 2018 10:03 GMT
#45
expected
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
June 07 2018 10:05 GMT
#46
YES!
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 10:27:07
June 07 2018 10:26 GMT
#47
Strange choice of game considering he'd make a lot more money going back to BW. But I'm just happy to see one of the most exciting terrans ever back.
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
June 07 2018 11:21 GMT
#48
FanTaStic news! I honestly thought he'd be going to BW. He was very entertaining in the events prior to his enlistment.
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
June 07 2018 11:45 GMT
#49
A surprising choice. Considering how good he is at BW. Gl to him.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 07 2018 11:55 GMT
#50
On June 07 2018 16:11 TT1 wrote:
ForGG did the same thing before going back to BW



No, on stream he said that he wasn't really sure about it.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
June 07 2018 12:05 GMT
#51
I am so happy to hear this. Any player who returns to the SC2 scene is always welcome in my book. But for that player to be FanTaSy?! HELL YEAH!
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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
June 07 2018 12:08 GMT
#52
On June 07 2018 14:58 neutralrobot wrote:
It's so great to think of FanTaSy coming back! I would have loved to see him in BW, but he did play some of the most interesting SC2 games ever also, IMO. I hope he gets into GSL-qualifying shape quicker than Parting and MMA so far.

While he was on holidays a month ago, he got to top 50 GM. So there is a good chance that he can qualify for season 3.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 12:15:22
June 07 2018 12:10 GMT
#53
It's weird he returns to SC2 and not BW. But anyway, there's where the most money is, and even if he doesn't switches to BW is better to get him on SC2 than do not have him at all :-)
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 07 2018 12:14 GMT
#54
Oh man, I really hope he makes the rest of his SC2 career worth his time. Super excited to see what he's got.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 07 2018 12:14 GMT
#55
Is this real life?
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ToXavieR
Profile Joined April 2017
Cuba19 Posts
June 07 2018 12:22 GMT
#56
Awesome news! Welcome Back Fantasy.
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11223344
Profile Joined June 2018
5 Posts
June 07 2018 12:44 GMT
#57
Exciting news.

FanTaSy fighting ~~
Sholip
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
Hungary422 Posts
June 07 2018 13:28 GMT
#58
Yaaay!
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TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
June 07 2018 14:16 GMT
#59
Getting a player of his caliber back is probably some of the best news for the SC2 scene in some time. Hope he does well!
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 07 2018 14:20 GMT
#60
Fantasy is one of the very few pro Terran players i respect because he doesn't just copy every other pro like a sheep. I think he also is one of the only Terrans (other than myself ofc) willing to do full transitional builds from bio to mech or mech to bio and make them work with good execution.

Tbh, this will sound harsh but people know it's true, SC2 started to go downhill when every other player that was retiring or leaving SC2 was a Terran player. Boxer, Nada, Fantasy, the list goes on.
Sup
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 07 2018 14:38 GMT
#61
Awesome, he was quickly becoming my favourite Terran to watch before he had to go to the military!

It's nice to see that he still wants to compete and chose the harder path by competing in sc2.

He can always go back to streaming BW on afreeca if he doesn't do well in 2019 I guess, it's cool to see him try!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Lazorstorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
32 Posts
June 07 2018 14:48 GMT
#62
Well this is just FanTaStic news. Pun intended
Long time lurker
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
June 07 2018 15:06 GMT
#63
brood war fans seething.

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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 15:24:03
June 07 2018 15:17 GMT
#64
On June 07 2018 23:20 avilo wrote:
Fantasy is one of the very few pro Terran players i respect because he doesn't just copy every other pro like a sheep. I think he also is one of the only Terrans (other than myself ofc) willing to do full transitional builds from bio to mech or mech to bio and make them work with good execution.

Tbh, this will sound harsh but people know it's true, SC2 started to go downhill when every other player that was retiring or leaving SC2 was a Terran player. Boxer, Nada, Fantasy, the list goes on.


No worries, SC2 will be fine as long as it has the most legendary of all terrans, YOU. Like YOU said.. YOU're basically the NA FanTaSy.
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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
June 07 2018 15:20 GMT
#65
Suddenly I'm interested in watching SC2 again
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
June 07 2018 15:23 GMT
#66
Very nice, excited to see what he can accomplish in LoTV!
gnuoy00
Profile Joined October 2017
26 Posts
June 07 2018 15:28 GMT
#67
super hype about this. he has the potential to be a disrupter i think
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
June 07 2018 15:54 GMT
#68
Holy crap that's the best surprise in a very long time. He's gonna have to work damn hard to get back to the top I think, but man am I gonna be cheering him on! FanTaSy hwaiting!!!! <3<3<3
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 07 2018 17:19 GMT
#69
Another fantasy's gg timing, just a tiny little bit too late to the SC2 party.
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 07 2018 18:07 GMT
#70
On June 07 2018 21:10 StarscreamG1 wrote:
It's weird he returns to SC2 and not BW. But anyway, there's where the most money is, and even if he doesn't switches to BW is better to get him on SC2 than do not have him at all :-)


SC2 really isn't where the money is for Korea specifically, he would probably make much more money streaming BW unless he can win a Blizzcon or a big IEM
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 07 2018 18:51 GMT
#71
Now we need Jangbi to play sc2
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
June 07 2018 20:20 GMT
#72
On June 07 2018 16:49 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2018 15:33 Ej_ wrote:
Are people really surprised? Fantasy has said he likes SC2 more and he played SC2 during his service


He was also playing BW games with Bisu.


Yeah, he's obviously heartbroken because Bisu's in the army now.

MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
June 07 2018 20:24 GMT
#73
Super happy for this, was a big fan of his play. We need more great terrans!
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 20:58:56
June 07 2018 20:57 GMT
#74
On June 07 2018 15:09 Qikz wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

T_T

Why not BW FanTaSy WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME


its a business choice in BW you have Flash collecting all that ASL money (its going to be incredibly hard.. nearly impossible to get at that level once again and than taking on Flash&Rain )
Fantasy wants to collect of what is rest of the blizzard sponsored sc2 money

washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
June 07 2018 20:58 GMT
#75
I think one of my favorite games was played by fantasy back in hots. He was matched vs true and lost nearly all of his economy to a baneling bust but proceeded to wage a gorilla war with just 2 medivacs of with marines vs a 4 base zerg, he lost but it was the closest game I've ever seen when a player is nearly 50 workers behind their opponent. I hope that once he gets back into form he will bring back his signature fantasy style where he micros his units so heavily that he seems to always get maximum value out of them but places such an extreme emphasis on aggression and control that he often floats large amounts of money. No on plays the game quite like fantasy.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15957 Posts
June 07 2018 21:19 GMT
#76
On June 08 2018 05:57 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2018 15:09 Qikz wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

T_T

Why not BW FanTaSy WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME


its a business choice in BW you have Flash collecting all that ASL money (its going to be incredibly hard.. nearly impossible to get at that level once again and than taking on Flash&Rain )
Fantasy wants to collect of what is rest of the blizzard sponsored sc2 money


no...
He would be able to make so much money from afreeca streaming, if he would go for a "business choice" he'd choose BW no qestion.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 07 2018 21:59 GMT
#77
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
June 07 2018 22:15 GMT
#78
On June 08 2018 06:59 DieuCure wrote:
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers


On Afreeca that's enough to get ~3k+ a month.
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PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
June 07 2018 22:23 GMT
#79
On June 08 2018 00:06 youngjiddle wrote:
brood war fans seething.

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


I like to imagine this happened because of a Brood War fan.

User was warned for this post.
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Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
June 07 2018 22:41 GMT
#80
Is this the real life.... or is this just FanTaSy?
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Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
June 07 2018 23:23 GMT
#81
Whohooo, that's great news! Also: Fantasy return timing :D
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 07 2018 23:26 GMT
#82
On June 08 2018 07:15 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 06:59 DieuCure wrote:
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers


On Afreeca that's enough to get ~3k+ a month.


How the fuck is that suppose to be a viable buisness model? Or is it only with donation?
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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
June 07 2018 23:34 GMT
#83
Yes. Make our FanTaSy come true!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 07 2018 23:42 GMT
#84
On June 08 2018 07:15 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 06:59 DieuCure wrote:
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers


On Afreeca that's enough to get ~3k+ a month.


https://broodwar.fuzic.nl/streams/af-forgg1/

Would you have proof of what you advance ?
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
June 07 2018 23:51 GMT
#85
Why sc2 and not BW???
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Wrong
Profile Joined March 2010
Mexico10 Posts
June 08 2018 01:44 GMT
#86
Oh yes!
I can't wait to see him compete in SC2 again and hopefully see some outside-the-box plays/strats from him.
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
June 08 2018 02:08 GMT
#87
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 03:10:55
June 08 2018 02:17 GMT
#88
On June 08 2018 08:42 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 07:15 TT1 wrote:
On June 08 2018 06:59 DieuCure wrote:
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers


On Afreeca that's enough to get ~3k+ a month.


https://broodwar.fuzic.nl/streams/af-forgg1/

Would you have proof of what you advance ?


On June 08 2018 08:26 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 07:15 TT1 wrote:
On June 08 2018 06:59 DieuCure wrote:
ForGG is always under 100 viewers on afreeca, you have to be a ASL finalist/great personnality to be above 1K or even 500 viewers


On Afreeca that's enough to get ~3k+ a month.


How the fuck is that suppose to be a viable buisness model? Or is it only with donation?


Afreeca has a lot of whales that donate a ton of money (balloons). You can look up By.Tyson's numbers, when he was an active streamer he'd get ~75'ish viewers and he'd get about 3k a month, at least that's what i remember reading.

But yea Afreeca streamers mainly rely on donations, lucky for them even the low end pros still get a lot of donation and sponsored/event matches, it's more than enough to justify being a full time BW streamer.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/512299-top-10-earners-of-july

^ For example you can see how much Free was getting back in 2016, he was like a middle of the pack streamer. There's not much separation between midd to low tier pro BW streamers.
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2647 Posts
June 08 2018 02:23 GMT
#89
I really hope he sticks with it, I was so excited when ForGG came back to see him mech in LotV and then he left for BW :C
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 08 2018 02:38 GMT
#90
wow he's been retired that long?
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
June 08 2018 09:02 GMT
#91
Fantastic news ! Fantasy my favourite Korean Terran in Brood war and hopefully in SC2 now
Seanzk
Profile Joined September 2012
China609 Posts
June 08 2018 09:18 GMT
#92
NICE!
雖千萬人 吾往矣
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
June 08 2018 09:45 GMT
#93
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.

EG left SC2, why would they sign up mostly forgotten SC2 player that used to be almost legend in Brood War days?

Honestly I can't see why any SC2 would sign him up. Fantasy has never been top dog in the game and coming out of military service - I don't see him making any kind of splash.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
June 08 2018 12:42 GMT
#94
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.


BW has a ton of tournaments outside of ASL. There's atleast 6 tournaments going on at this very moment. As well as a teamleague.
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Matroid_Prime
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada59 Posts
June 08 2018 12:51 GMT
#95
Welcome back Fantasy, love your style of play. Best of luck as you return to form!
Lifelong fan of Starcraft
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 13:23:17
June 08 2018 13:22 GMT
#96
Interestng thread. Feels like 2011-2012
FBH #1!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 08 2018 13:31 GMT
#97
On June 08 2018 21:42 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.


BW has a ton of tournaments outside of ASL. There's atleast 6 tournaments going on at this very moment. As well as a teamleague.


Fantasy never came close to winning anything in sc2, he was way better in BW, he probably just like sc2 more or at least the sc2 competitive scene.
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
June 08 2018 14:34 GMT
#98
Well, as others have said, I too would have preferred him returing to BW. I hope he finds success in SC2, though.
Flash | Mvp
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3423 Posts
June 08 2018 16:59 GMT
#99
My favourite player of all time

I do wish he returned to BW instead, but I'll be super happy watching him play SC2 as well.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 08 2018 17:05 GMT
#100
A fantasy ... came true!!!

You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
June 08 2018 19:54 GMT
#101
On June 08 2018 07:23 PuddleZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 00:06 youngjiddle wrote:
brood war fans seething.

User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.


I like to imagine this happened because of a Brood War fan.

User was warned for this post.



The comedy writes itself.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 08 2018 20:51 GMT
#102
If you have a problem with moderation, please take it to website feedback. On a separate note, it was Wax who both warned then temp'd him because of his past mod history. Anyways, website feedback if you have any other questions.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lysergic1
Profile Joined August 2017
21 Posts
June 08 2018 21:03 GMT
#103
On June 08 2018 08:51 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Why sc2 and not BW???


Better game. : ) I've been a Fantasy fan forever, can't wait to see him playing again. Hopefully he won't stall out which seems to be a common problem without team support. (Even better, hope a team picks him up, even something team-lite like Splyce)
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 09 2018 05:03 GMT
#104
On June 08 2018 22:31 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 21:42 Qikz wrote:
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.


BW has a ton of tournaments outside of ASL. There's atleast 6 tournaments going on at this very moment. As well as a teamleague.


Fantasy never came close to winning anything in sc2, he was way better in BW, he probably just like sc2 more or at least the sc2 competitive scene.

He explicitly said he liked SC2 more. Which honestly makes sense, the style of SC2 Terran suited him.
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Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
June 09 2018 08:11 GMT
#105
I am so happy now .. dancing .. I'll go open a beer right now!

Cheers :D
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xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-09 10:10:59
June 09 2018 10:08 GMT
#106
On June 07 2018 14:44 Waxangel wrote:
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.


Fantasy made weird decisions during his games in SC2. Reminds me of Flash, who also made weird decisions in his games in SC2.

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15957 Posts
June 09 2018 10:24 GMT
#107
On June 09 2018 19:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2018 14:44 Waxangel wrote:
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.


Fantasy made weird decisions during his games in SC2. Reminds me of Flash, who also made weird decisions in his games in SC2.

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.

I think Flash's 2014 were he carried KT to their Proleague title and won IEM Toronto was better than Jaedong's 2013.
People like to only look at high tournament finishes without considering context but Flash faced in general much tougher competition than Jaedong. Except that Blizzcon ofc where Jaedong bested Dear and Maru.
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xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
June 09 2018 11:20 GMT
#108
On June 09 2018 19:24 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2018 19:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:
On June 07 2018 14:44 Waxangel wrote:
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.


Fantasy made weird decisions during his games in SC2. Reminds me of Flash, who also made weird decisions in his games in SC2.

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.

I think Flash's 2014 were he carried KT to their Proleague title and won IEM Toronto was better than Jaedong's 2013.
People like to only look at high tournament finishes without considering context but Flash faced in general much tougher competition than Jaedong. Except that Blizzcon ofc where Jaedong bested Dear and Maru.


Flash did well when KT won Proleague that year. I remember Flash beating PartinG in the final. And Flash won that one IEM. Compared to say Bisu and Fantasy, Flash did better than them in SC2. But IMO, Flash failed to reach his potential.

By far, Jaedong was the most successful of the BW Bonjwas. The year that Jaedong reached the final of Blizzcon, I considered him to be the best Zerg player.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
June 09 2018 11:29 GMT
#109
doesn't TaeJa finish his service later this year as well?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15957 Posts
June 09 2018 11:39 GMT
#110
On June 09 2018 20:20 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2018 19:24 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 09 2018 19:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:
On June 07 2018 14:44 Waxangel wrote:
Fantasy had started to "get it" and was in the midst of finding SC2 success when he went to do his military service. Maybe he felt like he had some unfinished business.


Fantasy made weird decisions during his games in SC2. Reminds me of Flash, who also made weird decisions in his games in SC2.

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.

I think Flash's 2014 were he carried KT to their Proleague title and won IEM Toronto was better than Jaedong's 2013.
People like to only look at high tournament finishes without considering context but Flash faced in general much tougher competition than Jaedong. Except that Blizzcon ofc where Jaedong bested Dear and Maru.


Flash did well when KT won Proleague that year. I remember Flash beating PartinG in the final. And Flash won that one IEM. Compared to say Bisu and Fantasy, Flash did better than them in SC2. But IMO, Flash failed to reach his potential.

By far, Jaedong was the most successful of the BW Bonjwas. The year that Jaedong reached the final of Blizzcon, I considered him to be the best Zerg player.

His results were inflated due to leaving korea and playing in an easier region. His Blizzcon run was impressive but Flash faced and beat top tier opponents more consistently. Also no way Jaedong was better than Soulkey that year.
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2647 Posts
June 09 2018 15:35 GMT
#111
On June 09 2018 14:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 22:31 Nakajin wrote:
On June 08 2018 21:42 Qikz wrote:
On June 08 2018 11:08 Juaks wrote:
I am surprised as well to see him go back to SC2 instead of Broodwar. So many people were hyped about him going back to BW.

Thinking about it, maybe he has already several team offers in SC2. EG? TL? Maybe a Korean team?

BW only has a real scene in Korea and other than ASL there is nothing else. Maybe he thinks he can make more money in SC2 since it's much more popular and there are more tournaments outside of Korea. I am sure he did the math Streaming BW vs competing for a team and winning tournaments in SC2.


BW has a ton of tournaments outside of ASL. There's atleast 6 tournaments going on at this very moment. As well as a teamleague.


Fantasy never came close to winning anything in sc2, he was way better in BW, he probably just like sc2 more or at least the sc2 competitive scene.

He explicitly said he liked SC2 more. Which honestly makes sense, the style of SC2 Terran suited him.


I can see Fantasy being at home with how frantic and fast paced LotV is.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 10 2018 05:40 GMT
#112
Because he knows he can't beat Flash.

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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
June 11 2018 09:11 GMT
#113
On June 09 2018 19:08 xelnaga_empire wrote:

Jaedong in his prime in SC2 seemed to get it though with Zerg. The one year that Jaedong got to the finals of Blizzcon, and where Jaedong kept getting 2nd place at major tournaments, was the most successful period for any of the "BW Bonjwas."

Having said that, Bisu was the worst "BW Bonjwa" to play SC2. I had no idea what Bisu was trying to accomplish in most of his games.

Anyways, good to see Fantasy come back to SC2 instead of going with BW. I hope he can excel in SC2.


Smart to use quotes around BW Bonjwa given neither Jaedong nor Bisu were a bonjwa, but given we talk about Fantasy - even "BW Bonjwa" with quotes is not justified. One OSL does not Bonjwa make thoguh to be fair he was the most consistent among single starleague winners.
BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
June 11 2018 18:58 GMT
#114
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 11 2018 19:00 GMT
#115
On June 12 2018 03:58 BeaSteR wrote:
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar

he wouldn't be able to keep up in BW
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10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
June 11 2018 19:38 GMT
#116
On June 12 2018 04:00 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 03:58 BeaSteR wrote:
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar

he wouldn't be able to keep up in BW

Why do you keep on saying that?
Judgement
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands152 Posts
June 11 2018 20:24 GMT
#117
On June 12 2018 04:38 10dla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 04:00 BigFan wrote:
On June 12 2018 03:58 BeaSteR wrote:
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar

he wouldn't be able to keep up in BW

Why do you keep on saying that?



Just him being salty that he isn't playing BW as he hoped he would be playing
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ValM
Profile Joined May 2010
India408 Posts
June 11 2018 20:25 GMT
#118
On June 12 2018 04:38 10dla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 04:00 BigFan wrote:
On June 12 2018 03:58 BeaSteR wrote:
So disappointed... waited 2 years for him to return to Broodwar

he wouldn't be able to keep up in BW

Why do you keep on saying that?


As a fan of Fantasy and follower of his play in BW I would like to ask the same question.

Fantasy might not be remembered as a dominant BW champ but with guys like Flash and Jaedong still around why wouldn't Fantasy be able to keep up if he did return to BW and worked hard?
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 11 2018 21:04 GMT
#119
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-11 21:31:12
June 11 2018 21:27 GMT
#120
On June 12 2018 06:04 BigFan wrote:
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D

Noone keeps up with flash, fantasy would have a way easier time to become a top player in bw (again), something he never even was in sc2 really. Compared to the time he played sc2 last there are less players to compete against so that helps. I see him as a regular ro16 player who sometimes might make a ro8. Not really more than that though, in bw he would arguably do better.
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10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-11 22:47:35
June 11 2018 22:37 GMT
#121
On June 12 2018 06:04 BigFan wrote:
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D

Yeah, not everyone is as foolish as Rain. He shouldnt have tried coming back to Brood War. What could be possible achieve?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
June 11 2018 22:40 GMT
#122
Hmm...this kinda makes me want to play SC2 again too lol
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15957 Posts
June 11 2018 22:49 GMT
#123
On June 12 2018 06:04 BigFan wrote:
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D

Ah yes, SC2 is so easy and BW so hard that the chance of winning something in SC2 is much easier.
That's why all the BW players instantly dominated sc2 after the Kespa switch.

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 11 2018 23:25 GMT
#124
On June 12 2018 06:04 BigFan wrote:
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D


Look at MMA and Parting they haven't even qualified for a GSL yet after returning, going to be a long hard road to start winning if ever even for FanTaSy.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 12 2018 01:48 GMT
#125
On June 12 2018 07:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 06:04 BigFan wrote:
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D

Ah yes, SC2 is so easy and BW so hard that the chance of winning something in SC2 is much easier.
That's why all the BW players instantly dominated sc2 after the Kespa switch.



You can spit freely on sc2 but when you poke BW ...

Yet it's not hard to understand that he just prefers sc2.
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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
June 12 2018 03:23 GMT
#126
I think it might be a case of "unfinished business" for FanTaSy moreso than which one he prefers, as in FanTaSy feels he still has something to prove in SC2.
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
June 12 2018 10:13 GMT
#127
Haha, that's awesome! Glad he is safe and sound.
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
June 12 2018 13:32 GMT
#128
Deep♂Dark♂Fantasy
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-12 18:43:15
June 12 2018 18:41 GMT
#129
On June 12 2018 07:49 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 06:04 BigFan wrote:
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D

Ah yes, SC2 is so easy and BW so hard that the chance of winning something in SC2 is much easier.
That's why all the BW players instantly dominated sc2 after the Kespa switch.


Please don't start some silly SCII vs BW fight in a welcome back thread. Fantasy was playing SCII before he left for the military and it's the game that he's played since he switched over, aka for years and years now. If he had to go back to BW, he'll have to relearn everything and work hard on trying to get better macro because his 2011/12 form would not cut it anymore. Flash made the Ro8 on his first BW appearance since the switch and got destroyed in TvT, a matchup that he had a crazy win streak in during the KeSPA era.

Add on top of that the fact that the only offline tournament that he can participate in is ASL (we have lots of smaller but good online tourneys but he likely wants offline) and it's obvious that with Blizz's support, there's a much larger bag of cash for him to try his hands at.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 12 2018 19:01 GMT
#130
And when Fantasy comes back to SC2, he won't have to work on anything. He will get a golden ticket to GSL ro16, just like MMA and PartinG who are stuck in Code B!
Completely unlike the extremely cut throat BW scene, where FlaSh got 3-0d in ro8!
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10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-12 20:38:26
June 12 2018 20:19 GMT
#131
On June 13 2018 03:41 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 07:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 12 2018 06:04 BigFan wrote:
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D

Ah yes, SC2 is so easy and BW so hard that the chance of winning something in SC2 is much easier.
That's why all the BW players instantly dominated sc2 after the Kespa switch.


Please don't start some silly SCII vs BW fight in a welcome back thread. Fantasy was playing SCII before he left for the military and it's the game that he's played since he switched over, aka for years and years now. If he had to go back to BW, he'll have to relearn everything and work hard on trying to get better macro because his 2011/12 form would not cut it anymore. Flash made the Ro8 on his first BW appearance since the switch and got destroyed in TvT, a matchup that he had a crazy win streak in during the KeSPA era.

Add on top of that the fact that the only offline tournament that he can participate in is ASL (we have lots of smaller but good online tourneys but he likely wants offline) and it's obvious that with Blizz's support, there's a much larger bag of cash for him to try his hands at.

How does Rain fit into your rant? Also pretty sure that he doesnt have to relearn everything. Its not like the game had alot of expansions. Maybe you shouldnt provoke with statements like that if you dont wont any "Silly Fights"
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15957 Posts
June 12 2018 20:37 GMT
#132
On June 13 2018 03:41 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 07:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 12 2018 06:04 BigFan wrote:
He would have too high of a mountain to climb if he went back to BW. Would be rough to keep up with Flash and co so he might as well stick to playing SCII then. Better chance to win something there :D

Ah yes, SC2 is so easy and BW so hard that the chance of winning something in SC2 is much easier.
That's why all the BW players instantly dominated sc2 after the Kespa switch.


Please don't start some silly SCII vs BW fight in a welcome back thread. Fantasy was playing SCII before he left for the military and it's the game that he's played since he switched over, aka for years and years now. If he had to go back to BW, he'll have to relearn everything and work hard on trying to get better macro because his 2011/12 form would not cut it anymore. Flash made the Ro8 on his first BW appearance since the switch and got destroyed in TvT, a matchup that he had a crazy win streak in during the KeSPA era.

Add on top of that the fact that the only offline tournament that he can participate in is ASL (we have lots of smaller but good online tourneys but he likely wants offline) and it's obvious that with Blizz's support, there's a much larger bag of cash for him to try his hands at.

The way you phrased your initial comment made it seem like you were the one starting the BW vs SC2 fight.
Now that you elaborated more I see where you're coming from but still disagree. Fantasy played SC2 before the military but he never was a top player and as you can see with PartinG and MMA, even for top players it's incredibly difficult to get back to top level. On the other side Flash, Jaedong and Rain got high placements within months of returning to BW.
I just think SC2 is the more competitive scene atm with BW being focused more on streaming and the players focusing a lot on being entertaining whereas the sc2 scene is 100% focused on competition.

Also the fact that Fantasy has more natural talent for BW as he had much more success in it.

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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 12 2018 20:56 GMT
#133
No suprise that he wants to play SC2, its just much easier to win in an enviroment where competiton is a farce

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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
June 19 2018 13:18 GMT
#134
came back from holidays only to find out Fanta is back...in SC2 T_T
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StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
June 19 2018 13:59 GMT
#135
wtf are people saying here... lol. Yes, Starcraft 2 is easier to play, and that's why it's HARDER to win. The game is more volatile and every pro plays near the skill ceiling. I prefer BW but I like both the games. Fantasy is choosing SC2 because has more tournaments and more money, not because he thinks is easier to win (never forget jangbi and fantasy were at the top when SC2 arrived).
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-19 14:04:01
June 19 2018 14:02 GMT
#136
On June 13 2018 05:56 Paljas wrote:
No suprise that he wants to play SC2, its just much easier to win in an enviroment where competiton is a farce


He spits freely on sc2 lol, thanks mods. So BW skewed ..

User was temp banned for this post.
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esReveR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
June 19 2018 14:17 GMT
#137
FanTaSy is already playing decently. He did alright in today's GSL qualifier. He made it to the final stage of his bracket, 2-0'd Kelazhur, and only lost to Hurricane (who qualified) and Keen (who lost to Hurricane in the final match of the bracket). I wonder if he'll try to qualify again tomorrow... Perhaps we could see FanTaSy being one of the higher tier terran players again soonish?
Skill is relative.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 20 2018 08:16 GMT
#138
wut
why not bw, bro
well i wish him great success in his endeavour. may the widow mines be with him!
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Gekk02
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland50 Posts
June 20 2018 08:36 GMT
#139
PPL are always so mad here xD I am really happy Fanta is back to SC2!

btw, MMA and Parting have qualified to Code S
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Zerasmasher
Profile Joined September 2016
8 Posts
June 21 2018 15:41 GMT
#140
He didn't do bad in the GSL qualifiers. Beating a current foreign Terran (they say foreign Terrans are weak) is already good. Forcing 2-1 despite his loss isn't bad either. He might make it in the next GSL qualifiers, next year I believe.

Also, he's already invited to the Homestory Cup which will happen a few weeks from now. Good luck Fantasy.

Man, how many more SC2 players are returning other than Fantasy, Parting, MMA, and even TaeJa?
Zerasmasher
Profile Joined September 2016
8 Posts
June 21 2018 15:50 GMT
#141
On June 13 2018 04:01 Ej_ wrote:
And when Fantasy comes back to SC2, he won't have to work on anything. He will get a golden ticket to GSL ro16, just like MMA and PartinG who are stuck in Code B!
Completely unlike the extremely cut throat BW scene, where FlaSh got 3-0d in ro8!


I really wish I can see that now but he will have to try next year. And Parting and MMA had clinched their GSL qualifiers and will head to Ro32 this coming season.
Maximumanger
Profile Joined June 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-06-22 15:27:35
June 22 2018 15:14 GMT
#142
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