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On April 20 2018 04:43 Kalera wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2018 20:38 DSh1 wrote:On April 19 2018 15:52 Veluvian wrote:
Actually Maru and Stats were the one who did not impress that much in the beginning of Season 1. Then we know what happened and it always does. May be we should give some time for Byun to enter in better condition. Great players very often know how to win games without showing extraordinary skill in some moments. Mvp did it many times.
Now I think that Classic is the one that must face bigger pressure and fulfil the expectations because he is the one who i supposed to picк the trophy. I really hope for that but for this two months period balance could slighly change and of course he should deal with top zerg players if he really wants to fulfil his ambitions. Byun striked me as a player who will not win withouth showing extraordinary skill. When he won Blizzcon/GSL it was because of his skill being higher than his opponents (some people call it abusing reapers). Stats is someone who always wins without doing something impressive. And often it seems to me his opponents just collapses/makes stupid mistakes (ofc that's also part of Stats' skill). ByuN thrives on flashy micro. I wouldn't necessarily call that higher skill. Each player can have different strengths like better game sense, good preparation, or strong macro. Some of those traits are less noticeable than others, but all are important. His micro still seems pretty on point, but it seems like it's the other aspects of his game that have fallen off a bit.
No, I did mean overall skill - that also includes flashy micro. When Byun won Blizzcon, he had the highest overall skill (by far) I would say (because that patch suited him and he was on fire). On the contrary he doesn't thrive on clutching out an evenly matched opponent. He is not bad, but also no $o$, I would say below average. Would match with his statement, in an interview that he can't/couldn't deliver offline as well. My point is, it is very difficult for Byun to win a championship now, because what he needs is to be overwhelmingly better than his opponent. 50/50 (or even a worse skill level) Won't cut it for him (He can win against anyone, but also lose against anyone).
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TY and Dark had the highest skill overall.
Just watch their 2016 games.
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On April 20 2018 16:48 DSh1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2018 04:43 Kalera wrote:On April 19 2018 20:38 DSh1 wrote:On April 19 2018 15:52 Veluvian wrote:
Actually Maru and Stats were the one who did not impress that much in the beginning of Season 1. Then we know what happened and it always does. May be we should give some time for Byun to enter in better condition. Great players very often know how to win games without showing extraordinary skill in some moments. Mvp did it many times.
Now I think that Classic is the one that must face bigger pressure and fulfil the expectations because he is the one who i supposed to picк the trophy. I really hope for that but for this two months period balance could slighly change and of course he should deal with top zerg players if he really wants to fulfil his ambitions. Byun striked me as a player who will not win withouth showing extraordinary skill. When he won Blizzcon/GSL it was because of his skill being higher than his opponents (some people call it abusing reapers). Stats is someone who always wins without doing something impressive. And often it seems to me his opponents just collapses/makes stupid mistakes (ofc that's also part of Stats' skill). ByuN thrives on flashy micro. I wouldn't necessarily call that higher skill. Each player can have different strengths like better game sense, good preparation, or strong macro. Some of those traits are less noticeable than others, but all are important. His micro still seems pretty on point, but it seems like it's the other aspects of his game that have fallen off a bit. No, I did mean overall skill - that also includes flashy micro. When Byun won Blizzcon, he had the highest overall skill (by far) I would say (because that patch suited him and he was on fire).
Debatable. I'd put both Dark and Zest above ByuN around the time he won blizzcon.
Maybe even TY as well to be honest. TY's entire game was perfected (from earlygame cheese to the super lategame). ByuN's lategame wasn't even good when he won blizzcon, he had to win with reapers and fast tank pushes iirc. Both Showtime and Dark crushed him when the games went late.
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On April 20 2018 23:43 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2018 16:48 DSh1 wrote:On April 20 2018 04:43 Kalera wrote:On April 19 2018 20:38 DSh1 wrote:On April 19 2018 15:52 Veluvian wrote:
Actually Maru and Stats were the one who did not impress that much in the beginning of Season 1. Then we know what happened and it always does. May be we should give some time for Byun to enter in better condition. Great players very often know how to win games without showing extraordinary skill in some moments. Mvp did it many times.
Now I think that Classic is the one that must face bigger pressure and fulfil the expectations because he is the one who i supposed to picк the trophy. I really hope for that but for this two months period balance could slighly change and of course he should deal with top zerg players if he really wants to fulfil his ambitions. Byun striked me as a player who will not win withouth showing extraordinary skill. When he won Blizzcon/GSL it was because of his skill being higher than his opponents (some people call it abusing reapers). Stats is someone who always wins without doing something impressive. And often it seems to me his opponents just collapses/makes stupid mistakes (ofc that's also part of Stats' skill). ByuN thrives on flashy micro. I wouldn't necessarily call that higher skill. Each player can have different strengths like better game sense, good preparation, or strong macro. Some of those traits are less noticeable than others, but all are important. His micro still seems pretty on point, but it seems like it's the other aspects of his game that have fallen off a bit. No, I did mean overall skill - that also includes flashy micro. When Byun won Blizzcon, he had the highest overall skill (by far) I would say (because that patch suited him and he was on fire). Debatable. I'd put both Dark and Zest above ByuN around the time he won blizzcon. Maybe even TY as well to be honest. TY's entire game was perfected (from earlygame cheese to the super lategame). ByuN's lategame wasn't even good when he won blizzcon, he had to win with reapers and fast tank pushes iirc. Both Showtime and Dark crushed him when the games went late.
I disagree; I think whoever has the extra bit of special ends up winning. Byun had something special... the something special allowed him to beat sOs in that GSL finals and propelled him to Blizzcon. Rating any other top player at the time vs sOs, I really doubt any of them had the extra spice needed.
If you look at the last 5 Blizzcon winners v runner-up, you see the difference comes down to spice (the players' games more than the players.)
sOs v. Jaedong: Jaedong had power, sOs had mindgame spice.
Life v. MMA: MMA had micro, Life had gamesense spice.
sOs v. Life: spicier spice won.
Byun v Dark: Dark had force, Byun had reaper spice
Rogue v soO: soO had macro, Rogue had composition spice
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