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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
April 08 2018 05:04 GMT
#41
On April 08 2018 13:46 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 13:40 Kalera wrote:
On April 08 2018 12:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Did NoRegreT (and Semper for that matter) not show up, or did two times Code S player NoRegreT lose to Farmcakes?


Bracket says NoRegreT beat "BadSheep" in the losers bracket, so he presumably was there, unless they were all no shows? It says he got knocked out by Disk in the next match. puCK also got knocked out by Silky and printf.

NoRegret and puCK are both playing from Korea, and the qualifier started at about 9 AM for them. 150+ ping and overall tiredness explains a lot.

If they started playing at 9:00 their time, they shouldn't be that tired assuming they got decent sleep the night before. I thought Korea to NA ping wasn't that bad though.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
April 08 2018 05:16 GMT
#42
On April 08 2018 14:04 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 13:46 Solar424 wrote:
On April 08 2018 13:40 Kalera wrote:
On April 08 2018 12:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Did NoRegreT (and Semper for that matter) not show up, or did two times Code S player NoRegreT lose to Farmcakes?


Bracket says NoRegreT beat "BadSheep" in the losers bracket, so he presumably was there, unless they were all no shows? It says he got knocked out by Disk in the next match. puCK also got knocked out by Silky and printf.

NoRegret and puCK are both playing from Korea, and the qualifier started at about 9 AM for them. 150+ ping and overall tiredness explains a lot.

If they started playing at 9:00 their time, they shouldn't be that tired assuming they got decent sleep the night before. I thought Korea to NA ping wasn't that bad though.


Apparently NoRegret just overslept and didn't make it.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
April 08 2018 05:25 GMT
#43
On April 08 2018 14:16 Kalera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 14:04 FrkFrJss wrote:
On April 08 2018 13:46 Solar424 wrote:
On April 08 2018 13:40 Kalera wrote:
On April 08 2018 12:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Did NoRegreT (and Semper for that matter) not show up, or did two times Code S player NoRegreT lose to Farmcakes?


Bracket says NoRegreT beat "BadSheep" in the losers bracket, so he presumably was there, unless they were all no shows? It says he got knocked out by Disk in the next match. puCK also got knocked out by Silky and printf.

NoRegret and puCK are both playing from Korea, and the qualifier started at about 9 AM for them. 150+ ping and overall tiredness explains a lot.

If they started playing at 9:00 their time, they shouldn't be that tired assuming they got decent sleep the night before. I thought Korea to NA ping wasn't that bad though.


Apparently NoRegret just overslept and didn't make it.

Ah....well that's understandable.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 09 2018 02:32 GMT
#44
What a crazy game from printf and Ukko. With slightly better decision making printf could have won that quite easily I think. And Ukko could of course have avoided all this entirely, by Nydusing or proxy hatching which should beat what printf does almost every time.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
April 09 2018 02:37 GMT
#45
On April 09 2018 11:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What a crazy game from printf and Ukko. With slightly better decision making printf could have won that quite easily I think. And Ukko could of course have avoided all this entirely, by Nydusing or proxy hatching which should beat what printf does almost every time.

avilo theorized that printf could counter this by proxy nexusing near the proxy cannons.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 09 2018 02:41 GMT
#46
On April 09 2018 11:37 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 11:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What a crazy game from printf and Ukko. With slightly better decision making printf could have won that quite easily I think. And Ukko could of course have avoided all this entirely, by Nydusing or proxy hatching which should beat what printf does almost every time.

avilo theorized that printf could counter this by proxy nexusing near the proxy cannons.


It's worth a try, but I rather think you still lose since zerg can easily expand (and also protecting the nexus is non trivial since you have to put the initial cannons and shield batteries in a corner somewhere).
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
April 09 2018 02:48 GMT
#47
On April 09 2018 11:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 11:37 FrkFrJss wrote:
On April 09 2018 11:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What a crazy game from printf and Ukko. With slightly better decision making printf could have won that quite easily I think. And Ukko could of course have avoided all this entirely, by Nydusing or proxy hatching which should beat what printf does almost every time.

avilo theorized that printf could counter this by proxy nexusing near the proxy cannons.


It's worth a try, but I rather think you still lose since zerg can easily expand (and also protecting the nexus is non trivial since you have to put the initial cannons and shield batteries in a corner somewhere).

If you're proxying near the natural, then you can easily rotate your forces between applying pressure on the natural and also defending the natural. printf's main problem is that he can't move as easily between protecting his base and applying pressure on the natural, whereas with a nydus, Zerg can alternate between the bases easily. Plus, the Protoss can just recall the probes to the other nexus.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
April 09 2018 04:56 GMT
#48
Avilo vs Avilo is all I've ever wanted.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 09 2018 05:04 GMT
#49
On April 09 2018 13:56 Solar424 wrote:
Avilo vs Avilo is all I've ever wanted.


It's beautiful. Fake avilo used to play Protoss until he was enlightened by the mech god (and in fact he did beat said mech god with Protoss once). Finally he gets to meet his maker in tournament play.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
April 09 2018 05:10 GMT
#50
On April 09 2018 14:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 13:56 Solar424 wrote:
Avilo vs Avilo is all I've ever wanted.


It's beautiful. Fake avilo used to play Protoss until he was enlightened by the mech god (and in fact he did beat said mech god with Protoss once). Finally he gets to meet his maker in tournament play.


We shouldn't call him fake Avilo since the match is still going on. The winner of this match will be the real Avilo.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 09 2018 05:14 GMT
#51
On April 09 2018 14:10 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 14:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 09 2018 13:56 Solar424 wrote:
Avilo vs Avilo is all I've ever wanted.


It's beautiful. Fake avilo used to play Protoss until he was enlightened by the mech god (and in fact he did beat said mech god with Protoss once). Finally he gets to meet his maker in tournament play.


We shouldn't call him fake Avilo since the match is still going on. The winner of this match will be the real Avilo.


He's just a fake until he defeats avilo. And raven vs raven is truly the pinnacle of Starcraft. It's admirable that fake avilo is somehow able to bank 4k gas and no minerals despite their compositions.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 09 2018 05:21 GMT
#52
As usual we have 5 series backed up waiting for the outcome of this avilo mirror and we're still on game 1.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 09 2018 05:22 GMT
#53
This avilo vs avilo match is some real Zen shit.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 05:38:07
April 09 2018 05:33 GMT
#54
I hope they didn't veto Eastwatch. Because the one problem with Backwater is that it only has 14 bases.

edit: Just as the hour mark hit there's no more gas on the map.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
April 09 2018 05:38 GMT
#55
Bioice is the saddest man on Earth right now. he has to wait for 5 series to end before he can play, including this one.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 09 2018 05:40 GMT
#56
On April 09 2018 14:38 Solar424 wrote:
Bioice is the saddest man on Earth right now. he has to wait for 5 series to end before he can play, including this one.

At least he has a lot of games to ahead of him to get intel on avilo's playstyle.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 05:42:58
April 09 2018 05:42 GMT
#57
It's pretty smart of fake-vilo to save his last 800 gas for repairs.

edit: As soon as I say that he wastes it by building a battlecruiser and Yamato...
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 05:45:38
April 09 2018 05:44 GMT
#58
On April 09 2018 14:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
It's pretty smart of fake-vilo to save his last 800 gas for repairs.

edit: As soon as I say that he wastes it by building a battlecruiser and Yamato...

yamato is the only way to prevent a draw at this point

Oh yeah, it's amazing how avilo plays only 50 mass air turtle games and doesn't get upgrades on his vikings and libs.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 09 2018 05:45 GMT
#59
On April 09 2018 14:44 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 14:42 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
It's pretty smart of fake-vilo to save his last 800 gas for repairs.

edit: As soon as I say that he wastes it by building a battlecruiser and Yamato...

yamato is the only way to prevent a draw at this point


Ah yes he can Yamato a turret every three minutes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 09 2018 05:49 GMT
#60
Avilo losing the game to 1 battlecruiser casting a yamato on his buildings once every 3 minutes is karma at its finest.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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