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Rogue wins IEM Katowice - Page 3

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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 05 2018 03:04 GMT
#41
Anyone else notice how Rogue struggled to hold that massive trophy? It looked like it was too heavy for him to hold for long.
Snarosc
Profile Joined January 2016
France66 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 03:36:36
March 05 2018 03:35 GMT
#42
On March 05 2018 12:04 Zzoram wrote:
Anyone else notice how Rogue struggled to hold that massive trophy? It looked like it was too heavy for him to hold for long.


The Katowice vice-president who brought it also struggled to lift it.

Have you just seen the size of that trophy ? When it was next to Rogue or when he tried to lift it, it covered all of his upper body from his waist to his head. That thing is so massive I wouldn't be surprised if it's weighing 15-20kg.

Try lifting that above your head without struggling when you don't work out.
Stats is the best player of LotV.
engesser1
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
264 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 03:40:28
March 05 2018 03:39 GMT
#43
Btw, there's a very good chance that it might be we will see JinAirGWs roaster next year. Rogue saving e-sport.
Maru, he is the reason why i'm still playing and watching sc2
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 05 2018 03:57 GMT
#44
i heard he's a bonjwa now
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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engesser1
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
264 Posts
March 05 2018 03:59 GMT
#45
On March 05 2018 12:57 Shellshock wrote:
i heard he's a bonjwa now

i heard it too, and it's soooo good.
Maru, he is the reason why i'm still playing and watching sc2
nabresrotciv
Profile Joined September 2012
United Kingdom32 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 04:24:43
March 05 2018 04:24 GMT
#46
Great stuff Rogue!!! Congrats to JinAir Greenwings and long live!!!
gg
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
March 05 2018 04:41 GMT
#47
Maru played so well, very underserved loss.
sirax067
Profile Joined February 2018
11 Posts
March 05 2018 05:32 GMT
#48
On March 05 2018 12:39 engesser1 wrote:
Btw, there's a very good chance that it might be we will see JinAirGWs roaster next year. Rogue saving e-sport.

just need other korean teams to make it competetive

maybe splyce pick up some more players?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16082 Posts
March 05 2018 05:57 GMT
#49
The last game reminded me a lot of a certain Byul vs Revival game.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
March 05 2018 07:43 GMT
#50
Come on Jin AIr! Take away the prize money from Trap sOs Maru and Rogue and use it to found another SSL this year!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
March 05 2018 07:45 GMT
#51
Well done Rogue. Proved to me he isn't a flash in the pan, and Serral has done foreignerland proud too.

Gutted for Maru but he went through one hell of a tear this tournament.
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Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1067 Posts
March 05 2018 07:53 GMT
#52
I really hope we get a complete overhaul of maps soon. Removal of watchtowers between base paths was definitely healthy but the amount of high ground hiding spots for overlords that serve this same purpose seems really absurd.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12972 Posts
March 05 2018 08:35 GMT
#53
I want terrans to be able to win badly, I'm really tired of these ZvZ / PvZ finals.

Classic being 4-0ed is anti hype as fuck but I'm glad Rogue beat him so we won't ever have to hear patch zerg again (soO and Stats didn't even qualify tho :X)
WriterMaru
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 05 2018 08:41 GMT
#54
On March 05 2018 07:56 KR_4EVR wrote:
I have Three things to say:

1) 1. KR Z (Z)Rogue Jin Air Green Wings $523,707

2) Are we convinced now that Zerg did not need the base overlord speed buff?

3) Are we finally convinced now that queens did not really need the air range buff?

If you can't accept all three of these, your logic has deficits.


your logic has deficits if you can't accept that sc2 is a complex game, player skill and performance is uneven and difficult to predict and yhr outcome of a tournament is influenced by a myriad of in- and out-of-game factors.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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engesser1
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
264 Posts
March 05 2018 09:37 GMT
#55
This is not about "how to whine". JinAir rules! Rogue - bonjwa, but...
IEM Season XII - World Championship ZvP finals Z-win. P-runner-up.
IEM Season XII - PyeongChang same...
2018 WCS Leipzig... same stuff here.
HomeStory Cup XVI - PvZ, P-win. Z-runner-up.
WESG 2017 - Asia-Pacific Qualifier same stuff here.
2017 WCS Global Finals - ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
2017 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament #2 - ZvP again.
2017 WCS Montreal PvZ again.
Something wrong in here... where is terran (who?).
Maru, he is the reason why i'm still playing and watching sc2
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 09:53:43
March 05 2018 09:53 GMT
#56
On March 05 2018 18:37 engesser1 wrote:
This is not about "how to whine". JinAir rules! Rogue - bonjwa, but...
IEM Season XII - World Championship ZvP finals Z-win. P-runner-up.
IEM Season XII - PyeongChang same...
2018 WCS Leipzig... same stuff here.
HomeStory Cup XVI - PvZ, P-win. Z-runner-up.
WESG 2017 - Asia-Pacific Qualifier same stuff here.
2017 WCS Global Finals - ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
2017 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament #2 - ZvP again.
2017 WCS Montreal PvZ again.
Something wrong in here... where is terran (who?).



but nerf raven
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
March 05 2018 10:00 GMT
#57
On March 05 2018 07:56 KR_4EVR wrote:
I have Three things to say:

1) 1. KR Z (Z)Rogue Jin Air Green Wings $523,707

2) Are we convinced now that Zerg did not need the base overlord speed buff?

3) Are we finally convinced now that queens did not really need the air range buff?

If you can't accept all three of these, your logic has deficits.


There's really a simpler solution to PvZ's woes.

Put Overlord drop tech on lair. It eliminates the early ling drops that are forcing Protoss into Stargate openers in the match up. Once you've done that, you allow Protoss to start developing timings that can take advantage of some of the meta things Zerg are fond of at the moment.

It's really the best solution. We've seen from this tournament many times how helpful Overlord Drops are past Lair tech, and other than forcing PvZ into Stargate openers we hardly ever see pre-Lair overlord shenanigans in the other match ups.

It's the appropriate move, if a move is needed.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
EESCLuna
Profile Joined February 2017
Spain53 Posts
March 05 2018 11:06 GMT
#58
Honestly, when a final result is 4:0 something is bad with balance, no matter what happens on the entire tournament. The most boring games were on the finals WTF.
Balance means nerf Protoss
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland964 Posts
March 05 2018 11:17 GMT
#59
On March 05 2018 20:06 EESCLuna wrote:
Honestly, when a final result is 4:0 something is bad with balance, no matter what happens on the entire tournament. The most boring games were on the finals WTF.


Classic looked just as distressed in the finals as Serral looked in the semifinals, which I found ironic.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 11:25:24
March 05 2018 11:22 GMT
#60
On March 05 2018 07:56 KR_4EVR wrote:
I have Three things to say:

1) 1. KR Z (Z)Rogue Jin Air Green Wings $523,707

2) Are we convinced now that Zerg did not need the base overlord speed buff?

3) Are we finally convinced now that queens did not really need the air range buff?

If you can't accept all three of these, your logic has deficits.

If you dont agree with me on my arbitrary made up premises, then you are factually wrong. /thread

Also shame on the PR makers for not correctly guessing the top 16 players by name and rank. #FakeStevemustbefired
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
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