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Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
October 23 2017 12:53 GMT
#21
As far as super recent form they both did poorly in Master's coliseum and Stats is 6-4 in his last 10 matches where Rogue is 6-3-1.

I know this is all in fun to provoke discussion and debate leading up to Blizzcon but the rankings have to be somewhat credible. I would have put Rogue 4th behind Inno, Stats and Dark.

Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
October 23 2017 12:57 GMT
#22
Honestly, Rogue was not even being considered among the best until he won the super tournament to now have him as a favourite above Stats and possibly innovation is just wrong even if he is in good form.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
October 23 2017 13:13 GMT
#23
On October 23 2017 21:53 Rolltide wrote:
As far as super recent form they both did poorly in Master's coliseum and Stats is 6-4 in his last 10 matches where Rogue is 6-3-1.

I know this is all in fun to provoke discussion and debate leading up to Blizzcon but the rankings have to be somewhat credible. I would have put Rogue 4th behind Inno, Stats and Dark.



Rogue has a draw? Where? Against who?
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
October 23 2017 13:16 GMT
#24
I know that Stats has a large fan base, and I like him as well. But if I have to calm my emotions and be objective then not only I put Rogue above him, but herO is above Stats as well by means of form.

I know that herO doesn't have many fans, and some don't even like his play style (I'm one among them), but by means of form and chances of winning it all herO has more then Stats.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 23 2017 13:19 GMT
#25
On October 23 2017 21:57 Z3nith wrote:
Honestly, Rogue was not even being considered among the best until he won the super tournament to now have him as a favourite above Stats and possibly innovation is just wrong even if he is in good form.

Someone is forgetting IEM Shanghai.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
October 23 2017 13:25 GMT
#26
Rogue's last 10 matches. Some of them are only 1 or 2 maps...

http://aligulac.com/players/1662-Rogue/
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
October 23 2017 13:32 GMT
#27
I know that Stats has a large fan base, and I like him as well. But if I have to calm my emotions and be objective then not only I put Rogue above him, but herO is above Stats as well by means of form.


Since when is it only about form? And what does that mean how a guy played this week only?

At Master's coliseum 2 these are the matches Rogue played.

In group. 2-0 vs TIME, 1-1 vs Elazer, 0-2 vs Classic, vs Byun was a wash because Byun did not show.

Then in the rd of 12 he was eliminated by Hero 3-1.

So what is so damned impressive about that? That's top 2 in the world? That is the last significant tournament he played in!

So classic should be 2nd then? Or first? Hero won that tournament.
Jimmon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States112 Posts
October 23 2017 13:33 GMT
#28
I love the article, yet I feel like KeSpa overshadowed Stat's actual accomplishments. Of course people uphold KeSpa with high regard, but I felt like there was more KeSpa hyping then actual Stats hyping.

Overall, I really liked the verbage and opener/ender.

I love LOveRH
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
October 23 2017 13:35 GMT
#29
On October 23 2017 22:19 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2017 21:57 Z3nith wrote:
Honestly, Rogue was not even being considered among the best until he won the super tournament to now have him as a favourite above Stats and possibly innovation is just wrong even if he is in good form.

Someone is forgetting IEM Shanghai.


Ah yes IEM shanghai beats out an SSL and GSL title and quite a few ro4s etc. Sure. Not to mention for innovation the GSL, GSL vs the world and an SSL.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 23 2017 13:51 GMT
#30
On October 23 2017 22:35 Z3nith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2017 22:19 Boggyb wrote:
On October 23 2017 21:57 Z3nith wrote:
Honestly, Rogue was not even being considered among the best until he won the super tournament to now have him as a favourite above Stats and possibly innovation is just wrong even if he is in good form.

Someone is forgetting IEM Shanghai.


Ah yes IEM shanghai beats out an SSL and GSL title and quite a few ro4s etc. Sure. Not to mention for innovation the GSL, GSL vs the world and an SSL.

Look at the last 4 months and keep in mind that GSL vs The World was an invitational tournament. Unless tournament wins don't mean much in your book, the only people who can compare with Rogue are Innovation and Neeb.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16101 Posts
October 23 2017 13:51 GMT
#31
Some people don't understand the purpose of a powerrank.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 23 2017 14:04 GMT
#32
On October 23 2017 22:51 Charoisaur wrote:
Some people don't understand the purpose of a powerrank.


I think people overrate trophies when it comes to them. If you just rank everyone based on their finish in the latest tournament then what's the point? Given how rare back-to-back championships are, it's clearly not the right way to go about it
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 14:20:58
October 23 2017 14:20 GMT
#33
On October 23 2017 22:35 Z3nith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2017 22:19 Boggyb wrote:
On October 23 2017 21:57 Z3nith wrote:
Honestly, Rogue was not even being considered among the best until he won the super tournament to now have him as a favourite above Stats and possibly innovation is just wrong even if he is in good form.

Someone is forgetting IEM Shanghai.


Ah yes IEM shanghai beats out an SSL and GSL title and quite a few ro4s etc. Sure. Not to mention for innovation the GSL, GSL vs the world and an SSL.


Yes, IEM Shanghai > SSL.

And GSL+GslvsW > IEM+GSLST > SSL.
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4130 Posts
October 23 2017 14:56 GMT
#34
your stories are great! Just lacking some innovation.
Drone is a way of living
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
October 23 2017 15:06 GMT
#35
On October 23 2017 21:50 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2017 21:42 Rolltide wrote:
I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!


You're one funny poster.


That's my new quote, it's just so theatrical and dramatic
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
October 23 2017 15:08 GMT
#36
Is that a bad joke?
The guy is #1 WCS and just won SSL yet he is ranked below Rogue?

That doesn't make any sense :x.
WriterMaru
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51549 Posts
October 23 2017 15:11 GMT
#37
lol I don't care about the ranking, Kim Dae Yeob will crush everyone
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 15:29:08
October 23 2017 15:17 GMT
#38
any sports analyst with basic understandings of ranking skilled players based on overall results would put stats above 3rd place, and more likely to win blizzcon, only TL would be biased or stupid enough or selective enough to make a ranking off of two tournaments.

I mean, we'll just have to see.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 23 2017 15:31 GMT
#39
Stats is a stable player, no ebb and flow in his game or performance. He is the perfect balance of control and aggression. And he always manages to preform well in big stages.
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-23 16:07:34
October 23 2017 15:56 GMT
#40
Reminds me of Man vs Machine, the drg v inno ro8 preview...well done miz, it certainly lived up to the hype.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
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