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Teamliquid Map Contest #9 Voting

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byShiroiusagi
October 3rd, 2017 18:55 GMT


Over the past week, mappers have been working to tweak and finalize their maps for final public judging. Now it's your turn to take part in the process and vote for your favorite maps. Below are all of the finalists for TLMC9.

  • The images you see on this page are those of the pre-iteration maps.
  • Hover over the thumbnail for the images of these maps after iteration.
  • To get a larger overview, click on the map images.
  • Besides our display below, you can also view them all conveniently in this imgur album. We strongly recommend using this because it allows you to view the maps in high resolution very easily.


FINALISTS


Macro Maps


Backwater | AVEX


Backwater was my last attempt into creating a 'pocket-third' concept, and I think the games we had showed that it works out well. I asked around and it seems that the ease of scouting this base as well as the middle ground of harassing it seems to work out in most of the matchups, even in ZvZ. The map is easy to read, the linear expansion pattern and open field makes for surprisingly interesting engagements outside of the base locations rather than on the base itself. This map is a good bet to vote on if you are fan of three-base games that aren't necessarily turtle-y like Acolyte.

Changelog:

  • Backdoor third slightly moved and is no longer siegeable from the low ground
  • Fixed a reaper cliff being pathed over by the base hugging the main.
  • Re-done middle ground textures to be more legible.
  • Added water on the lowest ground, 'cause why not.
  • Made some non-pathable areas more clear.



Blackpink | AVEX

Blackpink was a strong inspiration for me as a music group, and happens to be a part of my motivation to continue mapping, and I feel like the map aptly named Blackpink is showing that my progress as a mapper is going strong. During the contest it showed some aggressive games, but showed itself as having ample room for awesome macro games as we saw between ByuN and Serral. This is a safe contender for a solid macro map where you can play the way you want on the ladder. If you like that, I think you should spend one of your votes with it.

Changelog:

  • Main adjusted, mineral line tucked horizontally by one cell relative to their spawn. Weird square on the side removed.
  • Re-designed triangular third base, removed pillar and opened the area up, moved the 'behind' ramp to be more direct, rocks added to the most direct path's ramp. Mineral line made diagonal Rock tower removed.
  • Vertical third rock tower removed.
  • Many of the main pathways have been expanded and widened for more open engagements.
  • Many of the lit-up decals and lights were toned back a little.



Defender's Resort | Youngrustler

Defender's Resort in the map tournament had very different 3rd bases taken which was very interesting to see what players would prefer in their 3rd choice. The map itself could end up being a unique twist to standard maps with the base set up on the map. Final comment who doesn't like beach maps!

Changelog:

  • Reduced main base sizes slightly to lower open space.
  • Fixed mineral patches that were off.
  • Added 6x6 rocks for the ramps leading to the middle 3rd bases.



NEO TROPICANA | IeZaeL

Lately there's been a lack of 4p maps in the ladder. Tropicana is a good choice, providing a safe layout with a few twists and a striking color palette, sure to be well liked by the majority of the players.

Changelog:

  • Siege tanks will no longer be able to hit the mineral lines of the main.
  • Main vespene geysers moved to the outer side to allow zerg slightly easier scouting.
  • Natural is now wallable with 3x gateway or 2x gateway+pylon+zealot
  • Widened the lowground areas around the 3/9oclock bases
  • Removed Line of Sight blockers in the middle.
  • Reworked the rock clusters in the middle. Now the Xel'naga towers are takeable right from the start, while players still need to destroy the adjacent rocks to open up the path.



Sky Garden | NewSunshine

The features of the map are simultaneously standard and familiar, but combined into a map like we haven't yet seen in Legacy of the Void. This map's strong point is one that no other finalist can share - 3 different possible spawn positions between you and your opponent. The changes made have been simple, and seek to address the power of the gold bases, and possible air-based openings in close spawns. The result should be a relatively balanced map, with a style we haven't seen since Wings of Liberty, with maps such as Shattered Temple and Metalopolis, that manages to offer an interesting variety in possible games.

Changelog:

  • No-fly zones between upper-right/lower-left main bases expanded.
  • Rock towers on the ramps to the high ground gold bases removed.
  • A single destructible debris added to the gold bases, blocking them from being taken early.
  • Low ground gold bases changed into normal blue bases.



Standard Maps

Acid Plant | nesta-kun

I made the map play out pretty much as standard as possible, it does get a little aggressive in the later stages of the midgame due to the destructible debris opening up a very direct path, but you can expand away from that area too. The games we saw on it in the tournament were really solid and we saw a ton of different styles being viable - And for that reason I have decided only to make aesthetic improvements to the map. Vote for Acid Plant if you like a solid map with room for variety.

Changelog:

  • Scaled down and changed some doodads to avoid air units flying through them.
  • Changed the playable boundaries to 148x136 down from 152x136 to eliminate dead air space around the edges.
  • Removed some visual effects on top of the low ground geysers.
  • Made a few aesthetic touch ups. (Mainly doodads)



EASTWATCH | IeZaeL

Play the game the way you want, be it macro or rush or standard, with the various rock towers providing exciting ways to shape the gameplay in never-seen-before ways. Now with even more meaningful choices due to the changes made during the iteration phase.

Changelog:

  • Moved back the vertical third by two squares;
  • Removed two set of rocks;
  • Moved the vertical third's rock tower a little bit closer to the mineral lines;
  • Added a base at 10/16 o'clock;
  • Widened a few paths in the middle areas;
  • Added reaper path into the main.



Grime | Fatam

"Grime" is a macro-friendly map that favors good positional play. Give Grime a vote if you enjoy those things!

Changelog:

  • Removed rocks from ramp inbetween nat and third
  • Added overlord spot near natural
  • Moved the ramp in front of the third forward
  • Moved the 12/6 o'clock bases slightly closer to your nat/third area
  • Slightly increased size of overlord spot inbetween nat and third
  • Moved main mineral line 1 square closer to nat
  • Minor aesthetics adjustments



CATALYST | NegativeZero

This map is a composite of some of my best standard map ideas dating back to HotS. The flexible expansion layout allows you to tailor your expansion pattern to your own play style, and the combination of chokes and high grounds create a variety of interesting attack paths and defensive positions. Changes from the original mainly help fix a couple potentially abusable areas around the 3rd - widening a chokey area along the high ground attack path, and reducing the vulnerability of the path between the nat and 3rd to tanks on the low ground.

Changelog:

  • Widened the area outside the 3rd
  • Moved center bases slightly inwards
  • Slightly enlarged mains
  • Minor decorative changes



Octane | Meavis

During the tournament this map displayed a lot of early aggressive builds. This was true for most maps, but Octane displayed particularly many compared to other standard maps. After further discussion, the suspected cause for players opting for more aggressive builds is the nature of the map putting emphasis on difficult yet straightforward expanding. Changes made are mostly about easier expanding, and aesthetics. With this, Octane will display more standardized gameplay as the map is supposed to function.

Changelog:

  • Moved clockwise third base 2 tiles closer to the natural
  • One of the entry points to the clockwise 3rd had it's size reduced by 2 tiles
  • Lowered some doodads blocking vision of air units
  • Vounterclockwise 3rd and clockwise 4th had their ramps adjusted to 2 size
  • Reworked some large objects into more detailed artwork
  • Lighting changed to be slightly brighter
  • Recoloured edges of pathable area to be more in line with the maps colour palette



Rush Maps

ABIOGENESIS | NegativeZero

Abiogenesis is a rush map which, despite its small size, is also designed to be capable of standard play. The short rush distance allows for aggressive builds, but the narrow forward chokes and tucked-away 3rd give an edge to the defender. Changes from the original serve to improve large army movement by opening up the map slightly in key central areas, and to give the defender an extra tool to help hold off early attacks.

Changelog:

  • Widened 4 more centrally-located ramps from 3 to 4
  • Narrowed ramps leading counterclockwise from the nat from 3 to 2, and added collapsible rocks to block them



BATTLE ON THE BOARDWALK | SidianTheBard

Battle on the Boardwalk is an early game aggressive map that can turn into end game macro games fairly easily if aggression is held off. Vote for the map because it's a smaller map that does offer that type of aggression early which has been lacking in many of the maps we've recently have had yet can also easily transition to longer games. The backdoor boardwalk leading to the in-base gold is new and the many tight choked off rush paths can provide interesting and dynamic gameplay. Nothing was changed during the iteration phase.

Changelog:

  • No changes



GOD'S GARDEN | IeZaeL

A map truly worthy of the favour of the Gods! Attack your enemy early using the central pathway, yet be careful, for your opponent has ways to shut you down. Explore the map, don't lose yourself amidst the plethora of fruits, and you shall prevail.

Changelog:

  • Every ramp has been brought back to standard 45° degrees
  • Streamlined and simplified the central pathway pathing.
  • Lots of very small changes in the cliffs structure and shape.
  • Swapped a few geysers position.



New Maps

ANOMALY | NegativeZero

This map is an anomaly in the SC2 meta. Will it end up a turtlefest, or will it produce interesting, strategic, positional games? How will each race adapt to the late-game lack of mobility? The best way to find out is to vote for it...

Changelog:

  • Altered resource placement at the nat to make scouting the geysers easier.



ARCH OF JANUS | Enekh

Changelog:

  • Changed type of rock beside to mainbase for to increase the backyard use. (1500hp -> 400hp)
  • Changed type of Natural's mineral for to increase the backyard use. (front yard 6 Gold Mineral -> 8 Mineral)
    (backyard 8 Mineral -> 8 Gold Mineral)



NEON VIOLET SQUARE | RQM

Neon Violet was a highly experimental map. It had many extreme features, not just one or two. Of course, it have received a lot of feedback during the tournament phase. Considering the comments, I picked acceptable ones out from those features. Now squares are only on the middle. As inevitable block lines were removed, players can bypass blocks and choose more routes than before. Safer main, more geysers on pocket base and new gold base let players to take different choices. Hence, the map now gives more possibilities. My attempt was to relax its forced gameplays. I hope you enjoy this map which now allows various aspects.

Changelog:

  • Increased size of the main base.
  • Shifted mineral line and vespene of main to enable defenses.
  • Pocket third has now 4M+2G.
  • Removed all 1x1 block lines on pocket third, middle and high ground bases. Block matrices still exist.
  • Reduced the size of high ground pods in front of bases on 8:30 and 2:30. LoS blockers were added instead.
  • Four 6x6 rocks on middle were replaced with two giant rocks. Removed one of two slivers of high ground next to them.
  • Low ground bases in 11:30 and 5:30 are now gold bases. Reduced the high grounds above them.
  • Darkened 1x1 block doodads and fogs. Brightened the lighting.
  • Decoration fixes.



Prizing

While Blizzard has the final say on which maps go on the ladder, this is your chance to send Blizzard a message as to which maps you want to see in the ladder pool next season.

The authors of all sixteen finalists have already earned $100 each for their hard work just for placing as a finalist. But in addition,the top five maps will be awarded with additional cash prizes - all provided by Blizzard:

First - $500
Second - $250
Third - $125
Fourth - $75
Fifth - $50


Vote!

This season, we'll be doing voting slightly differently. Instead of just selecting your favorite five maps, we'll be asking you to order/rank them as well. Your favorite map will receive 5 points, your second favorite map will receive 4 points, etc... Thus, the map that has the most points, not the most votes at the end of voting will win TLMC9.

Additionally, you must comment in this thread for your vote to count. A simple "voted" will do. Of course, we encourage you to post which maps you voted for and to have a discussion about which maps you like best as well!

You have until Friday, Oct 06 6:59am GMT (GMT+00:00) to cast your votes for your favorite TLMC maps, after which the winners will be announced.

Click here to vote


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Solas1993
Profile Joined September 2016
7 Posts
October 03 2017 19:10 GMT
#2
Voted
Caerwyn
Profile Joined February 2017
23 Posts
October 03 2017 19:17 GMT
#3
Voted
Devilsfire1
Profile Joined March 2017
2 Posts
October 03 2017 19:17 GMT
#4
Voted
Zeppelin535
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada262 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 19:18:01
October 03 2017 19:17 GMT
#5
Voted
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Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany803 Posts
October 03 2017 19:19 GMT
#6
Macro Maps, Rush Maps, Rush Maps, New Maps?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 03 2017 19:20 GMT
#7
I'm getting something weird when I mouse over Battle on the Boardwalk.

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(haven't voted yet)
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invisigoat
Profile Joined March 2013
184 Posts
October 03 2017 19:22 GMT
#8
Did my civic duty and voted!
imbAllard
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 03 2017 19:23 GMT
#9
Voted
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15906 Posts
October 03 2017 19:24 GMT
#10
Voted!

1. God's Garden
2. Defenders Resort
3. Catalyst
4. Acid Plant
5. Abiogensis
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 03 2017 19:24 GMT
#11
voted
eSpartyMP
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 19:28:58
October 03 2017 19:26 GMT
#12
Voting...

Voted!!
JWD[9]
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
364 Posts
October 03 2017 19:29 GMT
#13
When you are shocked that the ugly textures of Defender's Resort seem to become a thing, only to be greeted by Neo Tropicana. Eyecancer guys, it is a thing.
The_Bali
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 03 2017 19:31 GMT
#14
Voted!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 03 2017 19:31 GMT
#15
Voted.
Bounty
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany35 Posts
October 03 2017 19:32 GMT
#16
Voted
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1228 Posts
October 03 2017 19:34 GMT
#17
Voted
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SKIKS
Profile Joined March 2013
10 Posts
October 03 2017 19:35 GMT
#18
Voted
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
October 03 2017 19:35 GMT
#19
On October 04 2017 04:19 Yrr wrote:
Macro Maps, Rush Maps, Rush Maps, New Maps?

yeah there's a few wrong images too, TL pls
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Germany1515 Posts
October 03 2017 19:40 GMT
#20
Voted
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Revalence
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United States9 Posts
October 03 2017 19:41 GMT
#21
Voted my dude
Poky
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Czech Republic23 Posts
October 03 2017 19:46 GMT
#22
v
Theoutsider95
Profile Joined March 2017
10 Posts
October 03 2017 19:48 GMT
#23
voted
Zweck
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Germany211 Posts
October 03 2017 19:49 GMT
#24
Voted for:

Catalyst
Backwater
Blackpink
Acid Plant
...Anomaly
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IIEclipseII
Profile Joined February 2016
Germany157 Posts
October 03 2017 19:50 GMT
#25
Voted
Shyrshadi
Profile Joined June 2016
United States12 Posts
October 03 2017 19:55 GMT
#26
1. Blackpink
2. Defender's Resort
3. Battle on the Boardwalk
4. Acid Plant
5. NeoViolet Square
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
October 03 2017 19:57 GMT
#27
Voted

1. Acid Plant
2. God's Garden
3. Catalyst
4. Defender's Resort
5. Eastwatch
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dfsac85
Profile Joined June 2016
3 Posts
October 03 2017 19:59 GMT
#28
voted
Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
October 03 2017 20:04 GMT
#29
voted
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NyuBPrime
Profile Joined January 2017
22 Posts
October 03 2017 20:06 GMT
#30
Voted
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
October 03 2017 20:12 GMT
#31
à voté
I love hellbats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 03 2017 20:16 GMT
#32
1. Arch of Janus
2. God's Garden
3. Neo Tropicana
4. Sky Garden
5. East Watch
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Avexyli
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States694 Posts
October 03 2017 20:26 GMT
#33
Voted.

1. Blackpink
2. Backwater
3. Catalyst
4. Acid Plant
5. Neon Violet
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PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
October 03 2017 20:29 GMT
#34
Voted
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Topher_Doll
Profile Joined August 2015
United States76 Posts
October 03 2017 20:35 GMT
#35
Voted
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necrogon
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada35 Posts
October 03 2017 20:38 GMT
#36
Voted
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Arni
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 03 2017 20:38 GMT
#37
voted <3
INFANSON
Profile Joined August 2016
1 Post
October 03 2017 20:49 GMT
#38
Voted
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
October 03 2017 20:49 GMT
#39
vo
ted

ty for fun batch of maps

"not enough rights"
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
October 03 2017 20:56 GMT
#40
Voted.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Latias4Ever
Profile Joined November 2013
Portugal11 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 21:05:35
October 03 2017 20:57 GMT
#41
Voted.

Now that I've actually voted...

Backwater: "Added water on the lowest ground, 'cause why not." Good. I thought Backwater had water there the first time, I was much dismayed when I found out it didn't. Now that the heresy's been fixed, I can actually approve of it.

Arch of Janus: RIP all the gold rushes in SABRE for mass Hellion/Vigilant, or maybe even faster and bigger Raptorling masses. Oh well, it's not TOO bad.

Don't have any more comments on the changes.
Latias4Ever!
pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
October 03 2017 20:59 GMT
#42
voted
Siegetank_Dieter1
Profile Joined August 2017
117 Posts
October 03 2017 21:15 GMT
#43
Voted

Catalyst seems pretty good to me.

I hope we will get a good mappool with solid competetive maps.
Crozo64
Profile Joined May 2016
64 Posts
October 03 2017 21:15 GMT
#44
voted
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
October 03 2017 21:23 GMT
#45
Will vote
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Profile Joined April 2013
Germany93 Posts
October 03 2017 21:38 GMT
#46
Voted
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Sweden136 Posts
October 03 2017 21:38 GMT
#47
Voted.
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Sweden5 Posts
October 03 2017 21:40 GMT
#48
Voted
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October 03 2017 21:41 GMT
#49
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Canada90 Posts
October 03 2017 21:47 GMT
#50
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October 03 2017 21:50 GMT
#51
a
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Profile Joined October 2017
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October 03 2017 21:57 GMT
#52
Voted
Youngrustler
Profile Joined February 2016
United States70 Posts
October 03 2017 22:11 GMT
#53
Voted

My top 5 are these:
1. Acid Plant
2. Catalyst
3. Backwater
4. Octane
5. Sky Garden
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terrafreako
Profile Joined March 2017
28 Posts
October 03 2017 22:21 GMT
#54
voted

1. Neon violet square
2. Eastwatch
3. Neo Tropicana
4. Sky garden
5. Grime

The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 22:24:01
October 03 2017 22:23 GMT
#55
Voted
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United States1326 Posts
October 03 2017 22:23 GMT
#56
voted!
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October 03 2017 22:25 GMT
#57
voted
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Germany3 Posts
October 03 2017 22:28 GMT
#58
voted
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 23:06:07
October 03 2017 23:05 GMT
#59
Voted.
Battle on the boardwalk #1, also had to go for the janus pick.
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Steven Cai
Profile Joined June 2017
United States47 Posts
October 03 2017 23:05 GMT
#60
I'm interested in how Battle on the Boardwalk and Arch on Janus would play out.
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United States1248 Posts
October 03 2017 23:11 GMT
#61
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octomologyst
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October 03 2017 23:13 GMT
#62
voted
kccaseyy
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 03 2017 23:22 GMT
#63
voted
OrangeGarage
Profile Joined October 2015
Korea (South)319 Posts
October 03 2017 23:23 GMT
#64
Voted
I am drone! My dream is Hatchery!
Pklixian
Profile Joined October 2017
Canada81 Posts
October 03 2017 23:27 GMT
#65
Voted with my life content.
Love all of these maps but I had to decide for the best.
TLMC11 5th place finalist, Team TLMC2 3x finalist, aspiring mapmaker with dreams of success.
Frozen Phoenix
Profile Joined September 2015
Germany6 Posts
October 03 2017 23:45 GMT
#66
voted
htx.RuNe
Profile Joined April 2017
12 Posts
October 03 2017 23:45 GMT
#67
Voted.
TiberiusA
Profile Joined February 2017
United States39 Posts
October 03 2017 23:52 GMT
#68
Voted:

1. Catalyst
2. Blackpink
3. Abiogenesis
4. Backwater
5. Battle on the Boardwalk
SC2Sole
Profile Joined April 2014
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-04 00:16:14
October 04 2017 00:04 GMT
#69
Voted

1. Octane
2. Anomaly
3. Neon Violet Square
4. Sky Garden
5. Backwater
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
October 04 2017 00:06 GMT
#70
Voted! Was easy picking my top two, not so easy picking the rest.
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
TheSkunk
Profile Joined September 2010
82 Posts
October 04 2017 00:15 GMT
#71
Voted
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
October 04 2017 00:26 GMT
#72
Voted. Good luck all!
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
CygNus X-1
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada169 Posts
October 04 2017 00:29 GMT
#73
Voted!
Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation: We have assumed control.
HurinThalion
Profile Joined March 2017
7 Posts
October 04 2017 00:47 GMT
#74
voted
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
October 04 2017 00:49 GMT
#75
Voted
josieboyy
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 00:59 GMT
#76
voted
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
October 04 2017 01:00 GMT
#77
Voted
Aquila Magna
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Germany38 Posts
October 04 2017 01:21 GMT
#78
My votes:

1. Eastwatch - Nice original concept with low ramp usage, effective improvements, pleasing asthetics, well readable though fresh.
2. Neon Violet Square - Improved version adresses all critical issues with the checkerboard blockers, now it deserves a real chance.
3. Sky Garden - Return of a map style I miss, iteration phase was well used, nice mature asthetics, close air should be given a shot in LotV.
4. Abiogenesis - Liked this best out of the rush maps, layout screams two base aggression at first sight but defensive positions are strong.
5. Backwater - Well thought out concept and great execution, interesting paths available, unspent and nicely improved asthetics.

Good luck to all finalists!
Semper fidelis.
Herakilla
Profile Joined October 2017
3 Posts
October 04 2017 01:41 GMT
#79
Voted
Icarus2
Profile Joined March 2017
China109 Posts
October 04 2017 01:43 GMT
#80
Voted
Kraytin
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1 Post
October 04 2017 01:54 GMT
#81
Voted
I don't want your sympathy zealot!
Orbirax
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 01:56 GMT
#82
voted
JimiPump
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 01:56 GMT
#83
voooting!
ProTopaz
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1 Post
October 04 2017 01:56 GMT
#84
Voted
Aeneas49
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2 Posts
October 04 2017 01:56 GMT
#85
Voted
skjb
Profile Joined July 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 01:56 GMT
#86
voted <3 avex
qazcdewsx553
Profile Joined October 2017
3 Posts
October 04 2017 01:56 GMT
#87
voted
Warlock2
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October 04 2017 01:58 GMT
#88
voted
landwalk3r
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1 Post
October 04 2017 01:59 GMT
#89
Voted
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-04 02:02:54
October 04 2017 02:02 GMT
#90
If Arch of Janus makes the pool than democracy has failed.
scnoobz
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 02:03 GMT
#91
Voted
IMTB
Profile Joined March 2014
Taiwan37 Posts
October 04 2017 02:08 GMT
#92
voted

1.Sky Garden
2.Octane
3.Anomaly
4.Catalyst
5.Arch of Janus
WinterStarcraft
Profile Joined June 2012
United States109 Posts
October 04 2017 02:18 GMT
#93
Voted
Fressil
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 02:24 GMT
#94
Voted
Numbered
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 02:30 GMT
#95
Voted
Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
October 04 2017 02:34 GMT
#96
voted
mistercity
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 02:34 GMT
#97
voted
Assult537
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 02:35 GMT
#98
Voted
-Nicowars-
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 02:35 GMT
#99
Voted
Finch518
Profile Joined April 2017
United States34 Posts
October 04 2017 02:40 GMT
#100
Voted
Its all one big ghetto, giant gutter in outer space.
maruzest
Profile Joined October 2016
Korea (South)87 Posts
October 04 2017 02:41 GMT
#101
Voted
kill3rtofu
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 02:45 GMT
#102
Voted
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
October 04 2017 02:56 GMT
#103
Voted!
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
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82
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October 04 2017 03:00 GMT
#104
Voted
oberon74
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 03:02 GMT
#105
voted
SharkyIzrod
Profile Joined August 2016
1 Post
October 04 2017 03:06 GMT
#106
Top pick is Janus EZ
XEggman
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 03:14 GMT
#107
Voted
Helix487
Profile Joined October 2017
2 Posts
October 04 2017 03:23 GMT
#108
Voted
Helix487
Profile Joined October 2017
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-04 03:27:03
October 04 2017 03:26 GMT
#109
Solstice245
Profile Joined September 2015
United States145 Posts
October 04 2017 03:37 GMT
#110
Voted
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
October 04 2017 04:04 GMT
#111
Neo Violet and Arch of Janus best maps in this entire contest and voted
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
October 04 2017 04:29 GMT
#112
1. Blackpink
2. Catalyst
3. Backwater
4. Neo Tropicana
5. Defender's Resort
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Bannered
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 04:33 GMT
#113
Voted
MoonyD
Profile Joined December 2013
Australia191 Posts
October 04 2017 04:41 GMT
#114
Voted
The world wants to be deceived
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
October 04 2017 05:00 GMT
#115
Voted
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
October 04 2017 05:11 GMT
#116
Prepare your Janus boys
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Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
October 04 2017 05:23 GMT
#117
Voted. Went for the new maps pretty much. I'd like to have one them in our future ladder pool in order to encourage something new and to give us more intel about what could work even better.

Excited to see the results
#1 Blitzcrank #Forever platinum toss --> current diamond Terran <3
Kranis
Profile Joined June 2016
4 Posts
October 04 2017 05:23 GMT
#118
voted:
G.G.
O.
N.T.
E.
A.
NaRae
Profile Joined January 2017
Korea (South)48 Posts
October 04 2017 05:30 GMT
#119
Voted.

1. Sky Garden
2. Blackpink
3. Eastwatch
4 .Defender's Resort
5. Anomally
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
October 04 2017 06:12 GMT
#120
voted
Liquid`Snute, AcerScarlett, ROOTCatZ, MC, Maru, Soulkey, Losira
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
October 04 2017 06:20 GMT
#121
voted
TL+ Member
Exited
Profile Joined September 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 06:20 GMT
#122
Voted
Plopus
Profile Joined November 2014
Switzerland112 Posts
October 04 2017 06:28 GMT
#123
Vote
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa966 Posts
October 04 2017 06:41 GMT
#124
Voted
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4903 Posts
October 04 2017 07:12 GMT
#125
Voted
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Snarkangel
Profile Joined March 2017
2 Posts
October 04 2017 07:17 GMT
#126
Man, some of those new maps are bonkers! Love the look of Anomaly, really hope it's good

Voted
TheEvilDuckling
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 07:43 GMT
#127
Voted
SiJi
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 08:05 GMT
#128
Voted
DaedalusProbe
Profile Joined March 2017
3 Posts
October 04 2017 08:34 GMT
#129
Voted
pres.sure
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany104 Posts
October 04 2017 08:42 GMT
#130
Voted
Dandi
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 08:46 GMT
#131
Voted
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 04 2017 09:13 GMT
#132
Voted!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
grizzlybear
Profile Joined February 2016
19 Posts
October 04 2017 09:21 GMT
#133
Voted.
https://www.twitter.com/brownbear_47
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2404 Posts
October 04 2017 09:24 GMT
#134
Voted.
Mapmaker & TLMC Judge. Amygdala, Frostline, Crimson Court, and Korhal Compound (WoL).
Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
October 04 2017 09:40 GMT
#135
voted
"Not you."
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 04 2017 09:45 GMT
#136
voted
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
October 04 2017 09:49 GMT
#137
Avex! Voted!
Timmay
Profile Joined April 2005
United States112 Posts
October 04 2017 09:52 GMT
#138
Sky Garden
Catalyst
Acid Plant
Abiogenesis
Octane
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
October 04 2017 09:58 GMT
#139
voted
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
October 04 2017 10:09 GMT
#140
Anomaly is from Starcraft 1 right?
SoAoG
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany11 Posts
October 04 2017 10:11 GMT
#141
Voted
Don’t know how to feel alive—been that way for a while—so I don’t know the pain of living.
disquieted
Profile Joined July 2017
United States5 Posts
October 04 2017 10:13 GMT
#142
Voted
NutriaKaiN
Profile Joined June 2016
88 Posts
October 04 2017 10:29 GMT
#143
voted
Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
October 04 2017 10:40 GMT
#144
voted
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
October 04 2017 10:48 GMT
#145
voted
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-04 11:01:28
October 04 2017 10:54 GMT
#146
Voted.

1. Sky Garden
2. Battle on the Boardwalk
3. Acid Plant
4. Defender's Resort
5. Anomaly
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-04 11:01:47
October 04 2017 10:55 GMT
#147
On October 04 2017 03:55 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Final comment who doesn't like beach maps!

There are too many beach maps! And though I voted for Defender's, I wish the pool of water in the middle would be removed.
Metahurtz
Profile Joined December 2016
3 Posts
October 04 2017 11:49 GMT
#148
Voted
imData
Profile Joined February 2013
France32 Posts
October 04 2017 11:56 GMT
#149
Voted !
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
October 04 2017 12:08 GMT
#150
Voted.
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
Thomasmarkle
Profile Joined June 2011
United States85 Posts
October 04 2017 12:32 GMT
#151
Voted
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
October 04 2017 12:38 GMT
#152
On October 04 2017 19:09 Psychobabas wrote:
Anomaly is from Starcraft 1 right?

the double narrow bridge idea is taken from bw maps like circuit breaker and destination, but the map as a whole is an original layout (as far as i know...)
vibeo gane,
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
October 04 2017 13:38 GMT
#153
Voted
Ulken
Profile Joined January 2016
1 Post
October 04 2017 14:00 GMT
#154
Voted
GrimscII
Profile Joined August 2016
28 Posts
October 04 2017 14:39 GMT
#155
Voted
nesta-kun
Profile Joined June 2017
Denmark26 Posts
October 04 2017 14:40 GMT
#156
Voted - crossing my fingers! <3
TLMC9 Finalist - Creator of Acid Plant
Kerdinand
Profile Joined November 2016
Germany113 Posts
October 04 2017 14:42 GMT
#157
Voted!
Na jakar me'nah. - sOs - PartinG - Stats
1namn
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 14:43 GMT
#158
Voted
NinjaDuckBob
Profile Joined March 2014
177 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-04 15:01:20
October 04 2017 14:58 GMT
#159
Voted
NinjaDuckBob ~ Fear the fuzzy!
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States581 Posts
October 04 2017 16:04 GMT
#160
Not enough four player maps
Haukinger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany131 Posts
October 04 2017 16:16 GMT
#161
Voted
MissMagitek
Profile Joined June 2012
United States1 Post
October 04 2017 16:46 GMT
#162
BLACKPINK IN YOUR AREA <3
Insidioussc2
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany96 Posts
October 04 2017 17:04 GMT
#163
voted
Sc2Garitos
Profile Joined October 2017
France1 Post
October 04 2017 17:19 GMT
#164
voted
nick00bot
Profile Joined November 2010
326 Posts
October 04 2017 17:34 GMT
#165
voted
SoO~Speed~Serral~$o$~Dark~Myungsik~TY~Byun~Classic
Algost
Profile Joined January 2016
France4 Posts
October 04 2017 17:42 GMT
#166
Voted
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany152 Posts
October 04 2017 18:22 GMT
#167
voted
Alloyer
Profile Joined February 2017
2 Posts
October 04 2017 18:24 GMT
#168
voted
nullrd
Profile Joined November 2011
22 Posts
October 04 2017 18:33 GMT
#169
voted
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 04 2017 18:39 GMT
#170
Voted
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
mattze
Profile Joined October 2016
4 Posts
October 04 2017 18:57 GMT
#171
voted
TL+ Member
toxick1
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 19:29 GMT
#172
Voted
"If you lose against salt, you lose against life" ~Lowko 2014
NukeOfficial
Profile Joined January 2017
23 Posts
October 04 2017 19:31 GMT
#173
Voted
DariusTirsar
Profile Joined April 2015
Romania13 Posts
October 04 2017 19:49 GMT
#174
Voted
Yeger
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 20:01 GMT
#175
Voted. Abiogensis, Backwater, Catalyst, Anomaly
htx.RuNe
Profile Joined April 2017
12 Posts
October 04 2017 20:03 GMT
#176
I seriously hope anybody that says they voted for Janus "just to see how it plays out" isn't serious. Remember kids, it's all fun and games until Dasan Station shows up in the Blizzcon finals.
DarthGoose
Profile Joined July 2010
United States14 Posts
October 04 2017 20:16 GMT
#177
Voted
Toudeleski
Profile Joined August 2011
United States66 Posts
October 04 2017 20:50 GMT
#178
Voted
glhf
Nitffe
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark2 Posts
October 04 2017 20:58 GMT
#179
Voted
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 04 2017 20:59 GMT
#180
voted
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Titibandit
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 21:14 GMT
#181
Voted
ProtoPWS
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2 Posts
October 04 2017 21:16 GMT
#182
voted
revolt77
Profile Joined August 2015
7 Posts
October 04 2017 21:47 GMT
#183
Voted
TheWarlordus
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 21:55 GMT
#184
Voted
BRAT_OK
Profile Joined December 2011
Russian Federation10 Posts
October 04 2017 22:13 GMT
#185
voted
Shipa
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 04 2017 22:14 GMT
#186
Voted
Mnijykmirl
Profile Joined February 2010
United States299 Posts
October 05 2017 00:12 GMT
#187
voted
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
October 05 2017 00:42 GMT
#188
Voted
Chinese teams flair when
sunrisetower1
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 05 2017 01:33 GMT
#189
Voted
Light_VIP
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia107 Posts
October 05 2017 02:56 GMT
#190
voted
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1213 Posts
October 05 2017 03:00 GMT
#191
Voted
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Gavinrivera
Profile Joined August 2017
United States15 Posts
October 05 2017 03:12 GMT
#192
Voted
Jaedong is Gosu
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 05 2017 04:06 GMT
#193
obviously voted for beach map
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Ulargg
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands33 Posts
October 05 2017 04:08 GMT
#194
Voted
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
October 05 2017 04:54 GMT
#195
voted
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drakonnan1st
Profile Joined May 2016
6 Posts
October 05 2017 06:14 GMT
#196
voted
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 05 2017 06:21 GMT
#197
voted
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
October 05 2017 06:32 GMT
#198
Voted
Random Platinum EU
Steam101
Profile Joined November 2011
Argentina47 Posts
October 05 2017 06:32 GMT
#199
Voted
a serious place on serious earth
miku_jb
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany1 Post
October 05 2017 10:21 GMT
#200
voted
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
October 05 2017 11:04 GMT
#201
voted
sOs TY PartinG
Zygno
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria276 Posts
October 05 2017 12:08 GMT
#202
voted
MyCrO1
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 05 2017 12:46 GMT
#203
voted
Chipmonkeyf4g
Profile Joined January 2017
1 Post
October 05 2017 14:11 GMT
#204
F4G
Synesius
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13 Posts
October 05 2017 15:06 GMT
#205
voted
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
October 05 2017 16:57 GMT
#206
Voted
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
AnotherRussianGamer
Profile Joined July 2016
Canada1 Post
October 05 2017 17:13 GMT
#207
Voted
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
October 05 2017 17:17 GMT
#208
Neon Violet Square is so nice, I'm rooting for it.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 17:40:44
October 05 2017 17:39 GMT
#209
Yup

I mostly just randomly voted but i made sure arch of janus was #1
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13971 Posts
October 05 2017 18:37 GMT
#210
Anomoly is so cool
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
NasusAndDraven
Profile Joined April 2015
359 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 19:31:42
October 05 2017 19:30 GMT
#211
The updates made NEON VIOLET SQUARE a vanilla map aswell.

Only thing that matters is Arch of Janus #1, as its the only map out of the 15 that is not copy of one another.

I wish we were given some alternative options for new maps. I dont think rush maps are that good.
Avexyli
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States694 Posts
October 05 2017 19:45 GMT
#212
Just because something is radically different doesn't mean it's good or healthy for the gamestate.

I personally don't think Janus was executed well enough for it to be an enjoyable playing experience.
AVEX - Multi Winner, Finalist, Judge of the TeamLiquid Map Contests, Currently assisting developing StarCraft: Evolution Complete as Environment Artist & Multiplayer Game Design and Balancing.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 05 2017 20:01 GMT
#213
I hope they release the distribution of scores for the maps. It would be interesting to see which maps got mostly 2nd and 3rd and which ones get a lot more 1st than anything else.
xaoras
Profile Joined June 2016
8 Posts
October 05 2017 20:04 GMT
#214
voted
Mamba
Profile Joined September 2014
Switzerland39 Posts
October 05 2017 20:26 GMT
#215
voted
Romandy Gaming
IceTea_Sc2
Profile Joined January 2016
3 Posts
October 05 2017 20:44 GMT
#216
voted

Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
October 05 2017 20:49 GMT
#217
Voted.
PZenith
Profile Joined April 2013
Sweden1 Post
October 05 2017 20:53 GMT
#218
voted
Odowan Paleolithic
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States232 Posts
October 05 2017 20:56 GMT
#219
Voted
I need a bigger fridge. I cannot hold all the Cheese that are given to me.
channellone
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 05 2017 21:33 GMT
#220
Voted
ggtasteless
Profile Joined June 2016
3 Posts
October 05 2017 22:04 GMT
#221
voted
slavetomalal
Profile Joined October 2017
9 Posts
October 05 2017 22:25 GMT
#222
voted
Rikkmaery
Profile Joined August 2013
United States2 Posts
October 05 2017 22:26 GMT
#223
Voted
SaTiN
Profile Joined June 2014
United States54 Posts
October 05 2017 22:40 GMT
#224
I voted. I'll risk putting my votes here but in no particular order. Note that I am not a mapper, but I followed the threads and enjoy these maps and the changes made most.

Grime
Sky Garden
Eastwatch
God's Garden
Abiogenesis
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
October 05 2017 22:50 GMT
#225
shamelessly self voted, feels a bit dickish but i've got rent to pay

1. Catalyst
2. Anomaly
3. Abiogenesis
4. Grime
5. Neon Violet Square
vibeo gane,
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
October 05 2017 22:53 GMT
#226
1. Defenders resort
2. God'S Garden
3. Eastwatch
4. Backwater
5. Abiogenesis
HardRevenge
Profile Joined February 2016
United States17 Posts
October 05 2017 22:53 GMT
#227
Voted
Marre2795
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway7 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 23:02:24
October 05 2017 22:53 GMT
#228
Voted

1st: Abiogenesis
2nd: Eastwatch
3rd: Neon Violet Square
4th: Backwater
5th: Catalyst
Patton3D
Profile Joined March 2011
United States65 Posts
October 05 2017 22:53 GMT
#229
Voted, hoping for Janus, just for the salt
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IMplying
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany58 Posts
October 05 2017 22:59 GMT
#230
Voted.
WarBudTek
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany1 Post
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 23:06:14
October 05 2017 23:05 GMT
#231
Voted !
1.Abiogenesis
2.Backwater
3.Catalyst
4.Neo Tropicana
5.Sky Garden
dartaniar
Profile Joined October 2017
Ukraine2 Posts
October 05 2017 23:05 GMT
#232
voted
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-05 23:10:10
October 05 2017 23:06 GMT
#233
Voting now

edit - voted, but honest to god fix your voting system, there was only one map that looked interesting and I needed to vote for five, add none as an option for maps 2-5. If you can disregard my votes for choices 2-5, please do so
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Asolmanx
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy141 Posts
October 05 2017 23:12 GMT
#234
Voted
Returd9999
Profile Joined October 2017
4 Posts
October 05 2017 23:20 GMT
#235
Voted
tantalus
Profile Joined June 2012
69 Posts
October 05 2017 23:27 GMT
#236
Voted!
TSpeager
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1 Post
October 05 2017 23:29 GMT
#237
voted
Broodie
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada832 Posts
October 06 2017 00:52 GMT
#238
Detov
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Giwl
Profile Joined December 2016
5 Posts
October 06 2017 01:01 GMT
#239
black pink in you aree-uh!
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
October 06 2017 01:20 GMT
#240
voted
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
October 06 2017 01:34 GMT
#241
Voted, good luck
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RQM
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Korea (South)104 Posts
October 06 2017 01:40 GMT
#242
Voted.
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
October 06 2017 02:34 GMT
#243
voted.

Surprised about the turnout for sky garden in the comments, must be some serious amounts of nostalgia kicking in? Close air + coinflip spawns to this degree on a XXL map is a disaster for competition. lotv makes everything that was bad about these maps even worse, too.
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pocpoc
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 03:14 GMT
#244
voted
IceMECH
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 03:14 GMT
#245
Voted
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Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 03:14 GMT
#246
Voted
PR0METH1UM
Profile Joined October 2017
United States1 Post
October 06 2017 03:23 GMT
#247
1- Catalyst 2- Eastwatch 3- Blackpink 4- Neon Violet Square 5- Neo Tropicana
WNTR
rwh86
Profile Joined December 2013
1 Post
October 06 2017 03:24 GMT
#248
Voted.
Ketroc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada74 Posts
October 06 2017 03:29 GMT
#249
Voted
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Profile Joined September 2017
2 Posts
October 06 2017 03:34 GMT
#250
Voted aaaaaaawwwwwww yeahhhhhhhh
BtheDUB
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 03:41 GMT
#251
Voted
Zubrowka
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany42 Posts
October 06 2017 03:44 GMT
#252
Voted
Legen- wait for it -dary!!
Zepressed
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 03:45 GMT
#253
Voted
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Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 03:47 GMT
#254
Voted
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United States1 Post
October 06 2017 03:51 GMT
#255
Voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 04:00 GMT
#256
voted
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4543 Posts
October 06 2017 04:01 GMT
#257
Voted
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
whiteshadowx
Profile Joined October 2017
2 Posts
October 06 2017 04:01 GMT
#258
voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 04:02 GMT
#259
voted
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Profile Joined October 2017
2 Posts
October 06 2017 04:02 GMT
#260
yaya
Cappa101
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 04:14 GMT
#261
Voting now!
tPagen
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United States1 Post
October 06 2017 04:14 GMT
#262
Voted.
Acesinthehole
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 04:23 GMT
#263
voted
spinnyz
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1 Post
October 06 2017 04:23 GMT
#264
voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 04:25 GMT
#265
voted
Daemyx
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 04:25 GMT
#266
Voted!
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
October 06 2017 04:33 GMT
#267
Voted!
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Zaeus
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 04:40 GMT
#268
voted
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Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 04:40 GMT
#269
Voted
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Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 04:41 GMT
#270
Voted
Fritzee
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 04:41 GMT
#271
Voted
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
October 06 2017 04:42 GMT
#272
i'm extremely disappointed in the people who came here from winter's stream and just regurgitated his opinion instead of actually thinking for themselves
vibeo gane,
legomann97_1
Profile Joined October 2017
4 Posts
October 06 2017 04:44 GMT
#273
Voted!
mammothbane
Profile Joined June 2015
United States3 Posts
October 06 2017 04:55 GMT
#274
voted
X64Tyko
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 04:59 GMT
#275
Voted
Astriko
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1 Post
October 06 2017 05:03 GMT
#276
Voted
iroveyou
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 05:06 GMT
#277
voted
TheToasted
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2 Posts
October 06 2017 05:12 GMT
#278
Voted
mikeemesa
Profile Joined October 2017
2 Posts
October 06 2017 05:14 GMT
#279
Voted
mikeemesa
Profile Joined October 2017
2 Posts
October 06 2017 05:18 GMT
#280
Catalyst - 1st
Neon Violet Square - 2nd
Defender's Resort - 3rd
Neo Tropicana - 4th
Octane -5th
xXCRABMANXx
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 05:31 GMT
#281
voting
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Profile Joined October 2017
Australia2 Posts
October 06 2017 05:33 GMT
#282
Voted
dropshipmagic001
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 05:35 GMT
#283
Voted!
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
October 06 2017 05:37 GMT
#284
Voted.

Special shoutout to IeZaeL and NegativeZero for making maps where zergs can wall off as well if they want to!
hundred thousand krouner
Kranis
Profile Joined June 2016
4 Posts
October 06 2017 05:44 GMT
#285
1 post,1 post, 1 post, 1 post, 1 post,1 post,1 post, 1 post, 1 post, 1 post,1 post,1 post, 1 post, 1 post, 1 post,1 post,1 post, 1 post, 1 post, 1 post,1 post,1 post, 1 post, 1 post, 1 post,1 post,1 post, 1 post, 1 post, 1 post,1 post,1 post, 1 post, 1 post, 1 post,1 post,1 post, 1 post, 1 post, 1 post,..............................................................................1 post.
vairou
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 05:49 GMT
#286
Voted
Beliskner
Profile Joined August 2015
111 Posts
October 06 2017 05:50 GMT
#287
voted
zombiehobbit
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 05:52 GMT
#288
voted
HaibaneKuramori
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 05:55 GMT
#289
Voted
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
October 06 2017 05:56 GMT
#290
I'd love to know the results vs the results without 1post guys.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
Aldjiunar
Profile Joined September 2017
2 Posts
October 06 2017 05:56 GMT
#291
Voted
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
October 06 2017 06:01 GMT
#292
On October 06 2017 14:56 SidianTheBard wrote:
I'd love to know the results vs the results without 1post guys.


How come there are so many new people suddenly voting in this map contest, which non-TLers probably wouldn't even know about?
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ryurich
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1 Post
October 06 2017 06:03 GMT
#293
Voted.
willeatpants
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:04 GMT
#294
Voted - winter made me
Nopret
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:04 GMT
#295
Voted :D
SnowinLava
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:07 GMT
#296
Voted
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
October 06 2017 06:20 GMT
#297
guys if you're coming from winter's stream, i beg you, please don't just blindly repeat his votes, take a bit of time to look through the maps yourself and come to your own conclusions.
vibeo gane,
Cybrok
Profile Joined July 2014
United States2 Posts
October 06 2017 06:26 GMT
#298
Voted.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 06 2017 06:29 GMT
#299
On October 06 2017 15:01 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 14:56 SidianTheBard wrote:
I'd love to know the results vs the results without 1post guys.


How come there are so many new people suddenly voting in this map contest, which non-TLers probably wouldn't even know about?

I'm pretty sure it's like this every single TLMC that there's a posting requirement in.
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Barren1
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:30 GMT
#300
Voted!
danielsmic
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:36 GMT
#301
Voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 06:46 GMT
#302
Voted!
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1 Post
October 06 2017 06:46 GMT
#303
Voted
_WinterFox
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1 Post
October 06 2017 06:46 GMT
#304
Voted
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
October 06 2017 06:46 GMT
#305
voteddddd
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soul33
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:47 GMT
#306
voted
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Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:47 GMT
#307
Voted
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Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:47 GMT
#308
Voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 06:48 GMT
#309
Voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 06:50 GMT
#310
Voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 06:51 GMT
#311
voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 06:51 GMT
#312
Voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 06:51 GMT
#313
Voted
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1 Post
October 06 2017 06:52 GMT
#314
Voted!
acopo
Profile Joined October 2017
2 Posts
October 06 2017 06:53 GMT
#315
voting
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
October 06 2017 06:53 GMT
#316
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
sc2_Zim
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:54 GMT
#317
voted
LaKostya
Profile Joined October 2017
Russian Federation1 Post
October 06 2017 06:55 GMT
#318
voted
React42
Profile Joined August 2017
United States12 Posts
October 06 2017 06:55 GMT
#319
Voted
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Profile Joined January 2017
2 Posts
October 06 2017 06:56 GMT
#320
Voted
legomann97_1
Profile Joined October 2017
4 Posts
October 06 2017 06:56 GMT
#321
On October 06 2017 15:53 SidianTheBard wrote:
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...

A lot of these votes came from a stream where we have been telling people to make their TL acct to vote. Winter's stream has been drawing a lot of attention to it where there wouldn't have been before. This is a good thing.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 06:58:31
October 06 2017 06:56 GMT
#322
On October 06 2017 15:53 SidianTheBard wrote:
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...


On what grounds? These are actual people not bots--just because some streamers encouraged viewers to vote as a block doesn't make their votes any less valid.

The popular vote has always been to encourage participation, not because the general population has shown any acumen at choosing maps.
legomann97_1
Profile Joined October 2017
4 Posts
October 06 2017 06:58 GMT
#323
On October 06 2017 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 15:53 SidianTheBard wrote:
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...


On what grounds? These are actual people not bots--just because some streamers encouraged viewers to vote as a block doesn't make their votes any less valid.

Exactly! Not sure why he has such a problem with attention being drawn to this contest...
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 06 2017 06:59 GMT
#324
On October 06 2017 15:58 legomann97_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 06 2017 15:53 SidianTheBard wrote:
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...


On what grounds? These are actual people not bots--just because some streamers encouraged viewers to vote as a block doesn't make their votes any less valid.

Exactly! Not sure why he has such a problem with attention being drawn to this contest...


I mean I understand that as a mapmaker he dislikes that the vote is being swung by community personalities, but from a rules perspective there isn't anything wrong going on.
Skyraym
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 06:59 GMT
#325
Voted
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 07:00:45
October 06 2017 07:00 GMT
#326
On October 06 2017 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 15:53 SidianTheBard wrote:
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...


On what grounds? These are actual people not bots--just because some streamers encouraged viewers to vote as a block doesn't make their votes any less valid.


Because this isn't about what map makes ladder or not, this is about what map gets $$$ or not. So it's basically saying as long as the biggest streamer loves your maps you will get the most votes.

I'll quote it here..

Winter's vote: 1- Catalyst 2- Eastwatch 3- Blackpink 4- Neon Violet Square 5- Neo Tropicana

If these are the top 5 maps, the only reason they won is because Winter listed his top 5 maps and all his viewers voted for it just because.

You know somebody is fixing the vote when all of a sudden, at 3am, we get a sudden burst of 50 "new TL accounts" with 1 post all voting for the same maps...
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 07:03:19
October 06 2017 07:03 GMT
#327
On October 06 2017 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 15:53 SidianTheBard wrote:
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...


On what grounds? These are actual people not bots--just because some streamers encouraged viewers to vote as a block doesn't make their votes any less valid.

The popular vote has always been to encourage participation, not because the general population has shown any acumen at choosing maps.

if they're just blindly copying winter's vote (not saying everyone is, but it's definitely true for some) then they might as well be bots lol
vibeo gane,
mammothbane
Profile Joined June 2015
United States3 Posts
October 06 2017 07:05 GMT
#328
if winter hadn't drawn attention to this contest I wouldn't have known it existed or voted at all (and i only picked 2/5 of his votes).
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 06 2017 07:06 GMT
#329
On October 06 2017 16:00 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 06 2017 15:53 SidianTheBard wrote:
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...


On what grounds? These are actual people not bots--just because some streamers encouraged viewers to vote as a block doesn't make their votes any less valid.


Because this isn't about what map makes ladder or not, this is about what map gets $$$ or not. So it's basically saying as long as the biggest streamer loves your maps you will get the most votes.

I'll quote it here..

Winter's vote: 1- Catalyst 2- Eastwatch 3- Blackpink 4- Neon Violet Square 5- Neo Tropicana

If these are the top 5 maps, the only reason they won is because Winter listed his top 5 maps and all his viewers voted for it just because.

You know somebody is fixing the vote when all of a sudden, at 3am, we get a sudden burst of 50 "new TL accounts" with 1 post all voting for the same maps...


Blame TL for giving the prize pool based on a broken system. The electorate here is any user on TL (with a limit of one account per user)--just because individuals hold considerable sway over the electorate doesn't make it vote fixing. I know it sucks, but TL changing the system now would be more unfair.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 08:04:38
October 06 2017 07:19 GMT
#330
On October 06 2017 16:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 16:00 SidianTheBard wrote:
On October 06 2017 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 06 2017 15:53 SidianTheBard wrote:
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...


On what grounds? These are actual people not bots--just because some streamers encouraged viewers to vote as a block doesn't make their votes any less valid.


Because this isn't about what map makes ladder or not, this is about what map gets $$$ or not. So it's basically saying as long as the biggest streamer loves your maps you will get the most votes.

I'll quote it here..

Winter's vote: 1- Catalyst 2- Eastwatch 3- Blackpink 4- Neon Violet Square 5- Neo Tropicana

If these are the top 5 maps, the only reason they won is because Winter listed his top 5 maps and all his viewers voted for it just because.

You know somebody is fixing the vote when all of a sudden, at 3am, we get a sudden burst of 50 "new TL accounts" with 1 post all voting for the same maps...


Blame TL for giving the prize pool based on a broken system. The electorate here is any user on TL (with a limit of one account per user)--just because individuals hold considerable sway over the electorate doesn't make it vote fixing. I know it sucks, but TL changing the system now would be more unfair.


When the past 50 of 63 have less than 2 posts on TL. You know there is a voting Brigade going on and it's pretty fucking annoying since there is money involved. It's basically saying, whoever is telling all these people to join the forum and vote these maps will win. Either way, I'll copy/paste this again:

Winter's vote: 1- Catalyst 2- Eastwatch 3- Blackpink 4- Neon Violet Square 5- Neo Tropicana

I'll be curious how close to the final standings this is...
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
Finch518
Profile Joined April 2017
United States34 Posts
October 06 2017 07:28 GMT
#331
I wonder if youd be as mad about it if he voted for any of your maps.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 07:35:22
October 06 2017 07:31 GMT
#332
On October 06 2017 16:19 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2017 16:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 06 2017 16:00 SidianTheBard wrote:
On October 06 2017 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 06 2017 15:53 SidianTheBard wrote:
I hope to god you guys reject everybody with less than 5 TL posts. I love that in the past hour suddenly 50 people that have never been to TL decided to register and vote for maps...


On what grounds? These are actual people not bots--just because some streamers encouraged viewers to vote as a block doesn't make their votes any less valid.


Because this isn't about what map makes ladder or not, this is about what map gets $$$ or not. So it's basically saying as long as the biggest streamer loves your maps you will get the most votes.

I'll quote it here..

Winter's vote: 1- Catalyst 2- Eastwatch 3- Blackpink 4- Neon Violet Square 5- Neo Tropicana

If these are the top 5 maps, the only reason they won is because Winter listed his top 5 maps and all his viewers voted for it just because.

You know somebody is fixing the vote when all of a sudden, at 3am, we get a sudden burst of 50 "new TL accounts" with 1 post all voting for the same maps...


Blame TL for giving the prize pool based on a broken system. The electorate here is any user on TL (with a limit of one account per user)--just because individuals hold considerable sway over the electorate doesn't make it vote fixing. I know it sucks, but TL changing the system now would be more unfair.


When the past 50 of 63 have less than 2 posts on TL. You know there is a voting Brigade going on and it's pretty fucking annoying since there is money involved. It's basically saying, whoever is telling all these people to join the forum and vote these maps will win. Either way, I'll copy/paste this again:

Avex: Winter's vote: 1- Catalyst 2- Eastwatch 3- Blackpink 4- Neon Violet Square 5- Neo Tropicana

I'll be curious how close to the final standings this is...


Yeah that's completely true, but this is frankly what's been happening to a lesser or greater extent every single map contest. Only this time it's clearly apparent.

Bluntly if you want a system that rewards the best map you're not going to turn to a public vote--even if there was no vote brigading going on. I'm sure TL is aware of all this too, only having a public vote does make people pay attention to the contest, so while a few mapmakers might lose out it's still worth it overall. I wonder if that's one of the reasons why they changed the prizepool structure to reward all the finalists.

On October 06 2017 16:28 Finch518 wrote:
I wonder if youd be as mad about it if he voted for any of your maps.


I'm sure he would be. It's a principles sort of thing. -NegativeZero- is the maker of Catalyst and he isn't enthralled by community figures swinging the vote.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 07:46:17
October 06 2017 07:44 GMT
#333
i'm glad winter is encouraging participation in the map contest and i definitely don't think he was trying to rig the vote on purpose - but yeah i don't think he should've put that list of his choices up next to the link to vote. that's just begging for people to copy his vote instead of looking at the maps themselves.

this wouldn't be nearly as big of a problem if the community, and pro players/streamers in general, were as interested in the map contest as winter is, because then there would be a lot of discussion and dissenting opinions. but unfortunately, when it's mostly just 1-2 prominent people talking about it (like winter here, or basetrade during the last contest) then you do run the risk of unintentionally swaying a big portion of the vote.
vibeo gane,
Youngrustler
Profile Joined February 2016
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 08:15:59
October 06 2017 08:15 GMT
#334
I believe winter could have handled the linking to the thread better if his true intentions were to spread awareness to the map contest. My only criticism of it was like others have stated putting his choices with the link will more than likely lead to people to mindless and blindly follow his voting and not consider for themselves. I don’t believe everyone who came from winter’s stream all mindlessly voted what he voted but you can’t rule out that can be a possibility.
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Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1194 Posts
October 06 2017 09:09 GMT
#335
Voted late but hope it counts.
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NasusAndDraven
Profile Joined April 2015
359 Posts
October 06 2017 09:26 GMT
#336
Non democratically selected individuals already had the absolute power to select which maps make to the finals and receive the "free" 100 dollars.

In a competition like this, I wouldnt even care if Team Liquid made a featured news article guiding people what maps to vote.

Also lol at the people who say only active people of Team Liquid community should be able to vote. I wish Blizzard hosted this competition on their battle net website, and then banned most of you people from voting, because you are not active in that forum.
Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
October 06 2017 09:37 GMT
#337
Above post hits my thoughts well.
I don't get why people get upset about it now when the structure is flawed from the ground up.

That said battle net vote would still be bad as for example my bnet acc has been bugged forever to not be able to post.
"Not you."
Mausami
Profile Joined August 2017
1 Post
October 06 2017 10:10 GMT
#338
Voted
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 06 2017 10:29 GMT
#339
I agree that it ruins the integrity of the contest if 50 1 post accounts come and vote for the same maps.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
terrafreako
Profile Joined March 2017
28 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 11:15:43
October 06 2017 11:12 GMT
#340
It should be done by blizzard if u ask me why have this all to do the community, i dont get this. And its totally ok that people are interessted in and come online here to vote that needs effort so they are at least interessted in. And i agree thats a good thing.
For me best solution is just all with Diamond can vote for 1vs1 maps made by blizzard.
Only solution i see here. Cause the problem of deciding which is a good map can only make good players playing the game and actual playing the game.
Otherwise keep it like this and dont wine and be happy someone is coming here to vote for this shid.
The community is fallen apart anyways long time ago. Its just left a little group care for the game and then let them decidie or just blizzard which doenst support the acceptance of new maps but maybe we dont need this right.
Its the same with balance patches u can talk here for days and we dont all accept the patches like they happen but somehow they get created like this, however i dont mind anymore about a DEAD GAME lets be honest.
Timmay
Profile Joined April 2005
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 11:14:33
October 06 2017 11:12 GMT
#341
On October 06 2017 18:26 NasusAndDraven wrote:
Non democratically selected individuals already had the absolute power to select which maps make to the finals and receive the "free" 100 dollars.

In a competition like this, I wouldnt even care if Team Liquid made a featured news article guiding people what maps to vote.

Also lol at the people who say only active people of Team Liquid community should be able to vote. I wish Blizzard hosted this competition on their battle net website, and then banned most of you people from voting, because you are not active in that forum.

You are constructing a straw man here. No one is saying that only active TL members should be able to vote. What a few people here are worried about is that one or two popular figures could easily sway the vote. If they didn't like your map, you are at a massive disadvantage. Streamers are free to share what they voted for, and their viewers are free to vote the same way, but if that happens, it is very discouraging to some map makers.
terrafreako
Profile Joined March 2017
28 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 11:25:24
October 06 2017 11:17 GMT
#342
not only to the mapmakers i wanna edit here.
Lets just call it democratie :D retards with no knowledge can vote and thats it
At least we should just appreciate the participants and let blizzard decide not our job anyways. Blizzard maybe has a brain aswell, MAYBE :D
TL delivers like this just info to blizzard what they should look for and give them impressions
So to me its not that important which map wins and is on rank 1 im sure blizzard is able to take a good map from rank 8 and just ingores bad maps on 1.
For example arch of janus here.
Last contest they have decided to give blood boil a try which was my NO 1 map so im pretty confident into blizzards decissions. I was sad that acolyte didnt make it. We all know today even this map did it with delay so i trust em.
Im overall for macro maps as lotv is a macro game to me.
Maps wiht 6 patches makes absolutly no sense to me minium of 7 patches each side is required and im sure they see this aswell.
nesta-kun
Profile Joined June 2017
Denmark26 Posts
October 06 2017 12:40 GMT
#343
I dont think there is a good way around this - as a mapmaker I would of course love it if my maps only were judged by pros/blizzard and other high level designers but this contest is as much for the people to show their interest and preferences in maps as it is for us map makers. I’ll happily pocket my $100 (which I won through being judged by qualified people) and see who takes the cake in the contest rigged or not <3
TLMC9 Finalist - Creator of Acid Plant
terrafreako
Profile Joined March 2017
28 Posts
October 06 2017 13:36 GMT
#344
i have a good idea to send to blizzard why not just offering 8 or 9 maps. I think thats really neccessary to have some room to play with.
WinterStarcraft
Profile Joined June 2012
United States109 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 14:26:12
October 06 2017 14:25 GMT
#345
I want to offer my perspective to especially any mapmakers, because I am actually very passionate (in the most casual and probably ignorant way) about the mapmaking community.

I think maps are one of the most interesting parts of Starcraft, as they are more dynamic than even the races in the game themselves. I was excited to see increased Blizzard receptiveness (and I gave direct feedback to the same tune) about adding community maps because it is quite obvious community mapmakers put much more into their work than most standard Blizzard maps.

With TLMC 8 I was excited to be directly involved in the form of interviews/discussions, and with TLMC 9 I saw an opportunity to expand that and get a newer audience interested in a part of Starcraft that they quite literally had no idea existed.

I played many dozens, possibly hundreds of games on the variety of the finalist maps against all levels of players including GMs as/against all races, hosted a pro showmatch for $350+, and weighted my personal votes on my own interest/experience and that of general feedback.

The comments of several mapmakers, top tier players and of course casuals anywhere from gold to unranked encouraged me to widely promote the contest. Many people who did not even know what teamliquid was created accounts for the explicit purpose of participating, and many of those probably have less than 50 apm and have not played their placement matches. As an extra note, I added the maps I personally voted for after pretty much constant spam of the question.

If it is about the prize money, I am more than happy to try out mapmakers maps and host showmatches on them if possible (including supporting mapmakers). If it is about excluding newer people who are getting into starcraft and excited to participate in a new event and join communities that they didn't even know existed it's a bit different.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 14:54:59
October 06 2017 14:54 GMT
#346
This vote determines only who gets the prize money, not which maps get in the map pool. Blizzard chooses that, and not based on the rankings.

So complaints about the vote being rigged are not that important.
Timmay
Profile Joined April 2005
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-06 15:48:19
October 06 2017 15:25 GMT
#347
This whole thing would be a non-issue if there were other streamers/players/personalities who spent as much time as Winter on the maps. Winter probably could have avoided publishing his votes, but it's not his fault no one else bothered to talk about the contest. If other streamers talked about it, we would see a lot more perspectives represented in the voting.


On October 06 2017 23:54 paralleluniverse wrote:
This vote determines only who gets the prize money, not which maps get in the map pool. Blizzard chooses that, and not based on the rankings.


For me, my biggest goal is to get my maps into GSL, but the possibility of winning money adds some incentive to compete. For others, prizes might make the difference when deciding whether or not to invest the time and effort into making maps. If some map makers feel like they cannot compete for the top prize, they may lose motivation, which ultimately lowers the quality of submissions.
Ingebrigtsen
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway343 Posts
October 06 2017 15:34 GMT
#348
voted
"These animals should be rewarded for not being people... I hate people"
ShingDingz
Profile Joined October 2017
15 Posts
October 06 2017 16:41 GMT
#349
Voted
MajesticMothra
Profile Joined June 2016
5 Posts
October 06 2017 18:27 GMT
#350
Voted
Avexyli
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States694 Posts
October 06 2017 18:39 GMT
#351
Guys the polls closed last night, your votes are way too late.
AVEX - Multi Winner, Finalist, Judge of the TeamLiquid Map Contests, Currently assisting developing StarCraft: Evolution Complete as Environment Artist & Multiplayer Game Design and Balancing.
Skote11
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 07 2017 17:25 GMT
#352
Voted
chillex
Profile Joined May 2015
Slovenia1 Post
October 10 2017 15:12 GMT
#353
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