EPTWCS Global Finals spots and groups finalized - Page 2
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On October 02 2017 00:29 youngjiddle wrote: I am cheering for you snute! In recent years the spotlight has moved off you to other big players like neeb and serral, and I think you and the team liquid sponsership are underappreciated. I'm still your fan, I think your group isn't that bad and you will get out. As for the other groups, group B is a fan favorite group. I think it's a group where a lot of people will be disappointed whoever doesn't make it out. If neeb makes it out we will probably have more balance whining from even though neeb is going to be so practiced in this matchup. In group C I how hero gets out because of the little protoss representation. He should get out, it's the easiest group imo otherwise. And group D is the group of death. Not sure what will happen, any predictions? Gumiho + Inno is my safe prediction Not to say that I have no faith in Serral, cuz him making it out would be the bomb | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
On October 02 2017 00:20 AzAlexZ wrote: 2017 GSL Code S season 3 Classic had 3 Zergs's in his group and so he only had to practice vs zerg, yet he still finished last in his group. It's not about how many races you have to play against, it's about how good you are in that matchup. Granted Solar and TY both had 2 terrans in their group and finshed first place but my point still stands Yep but classic sucks against zerg... can't say the same for neeb  | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On October 02 2017 00:32 Clazziquai10 wrote: Yep but classic sucks against zerg... can't say the same for neeb yeah but we are talking about Rogue and soO not Elazer, True, Nerchio, Serral or Snute, not to say they are bad; just that their ZvP is not on Rogue and soO's level The last time that Neeb beat a korean Zerg (that is not True) was in August where he 3-0'd Solar in Olimoleague | ||
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bulya
Israel386 Posts
TY's latest form isn't close to that of the beginning of the year (same goes for soO I think), so Snute has a chance in group A. Stats is going to be first there. A lot can happen in ZvZ, so Nercho has a small chance, we do remember what happened last year in a group with 3 zergs. Unlike herO, Neeb is the master of the macro and late game, so it will be tough for Rouge. Won't be surprised if Neeb will be first in that group, but in that group everything can happen with 3 zergs. Dark will probably take group C, but even though herO's chances aren't smaller then Elazer's, Elazer's ZvP is his strongest match-up, so I won't be surprised if Elazer will make it second out of that group. If I had to bet then its Gumiho out of group D rather then Serral. But Serral has a chance. He beat Byun on the Korean server yesterday, so its not like his ZvT is garbage. Innovation will make first out of this group, and among those who will finish first I think its the safest bet. The chances of the foreigners aren't that high, but I do see 2 of them in the RO8, and Neeb can even take his group I think. Neeb and 1 of Snute, Elazer, Serral, or Nerchio (in the order from the highest to the lowest chances). | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On October 02 2017 00:36 bulya wrote: My bet is 2 foreigners in the RO8. Can't say who they will be, and the highest chances are Neeb's, but the others can also do it. TY's latest form isn't close to that of the beginning of the year (same goes for soO I think), so Snute has a chance in group A. Stats is going to be first there. A lot can happen in ZvZ, so Nercho has a small chance, we do remember what happened last year in a group with 3 zergs. Unlike herO, Neeb is the master of the macro and late game, so it will be tough for Rouge. Won't be surprised if Neeb will be first in that group, but in that group everything can happen with 3 zergs. Dark will probably take group C, but even though herO's chances aren't smaller then Elazer's, Elazer's ZvP is his strongest match-up, so I won't be surprised if Elazer will make it second out of that group. If I had to bet then its Gumiho out of group D rather then Serral. But Serral has a chance. He beat Byun on the Korean server yesterday, so its not like his ZvT is garbage. Innovation will make first out of this group, and among those who will finish first I think its the safest bet. The chances of the foreigners aren't that high, but I do see 2 of them in the RO8, and Neeb can even take his group I think. Neeb and 1 of Snute, Elazer, Serral, or Nerchio (in the order from the highest to the lowest chances). Who wins when a Master of late game PvZ (Neeb) meets a Master of late game ZvP (Rogue)? the won who pulls off a more successful Guerrilla warfare aka who can harass better. The battle between an Unstoppable force (Rogue) and an Immovable object (Neeb) | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16061 Posts
On October 02 2017 00:32 Clazziquai10 wrote: Yep but classic sucks against zerg... can't say the same for neeb pretty sure Classic has better PvZ than Neeb | ||
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Kruver
Mexico14 Posts
Group A: TY, Stats (in whatever order) Group B: Rogue First, Neeb Group C: herO, Dark (in whatever order) Group D: INnoVation, Gumiho (in whatever order) optimism  | ||
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geokilla
Canada8245 Posts
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ParksonVN
Australia370 Posts
On October 02 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: pretty sure Classic has better PvZ than Neeb no doubt, people still underestimate Classic after all because he doesn't play versus easy players. | ||
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IArako
Germany195 Posts
 A: Stats, Snute B: Neeb, Rogue C: Dark, herO D: Innovation, Serral | ||
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Zzzapper
1797 Posts
On October 02 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: pretty sure Classic has better PvZ than Neeb then how come Neeb's vZ Aligluac rating is 600 points higher for real though, even if comparing ratings for foreigner vs. korean doesn't make much sense, Neeb is the first foreigner to top the rankings since Stephano at his peak which is pretty crazy. I think Stephano's #1 is from before Aligulac actually went live but their back log of games is pretty good | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On October 02 2017 01:15 IArako wrote: Neeb, Snute and Serral gonna make it boys A: Stats, Snute B: Neeb, Rogue C: Dark, herO D: Innovation, Serral Your ro8 looks so unimpressive, i dont know why | ||
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[Svall]Granis
Sweden94 Posts
Also i dont like that it isnt 16 best player based on WCS points (if i understood it correctly) | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On October 02 2017 01:04 ParksonVN wrote: no doubt, people still underestimate Classic after all because he doesn't play versus easy players. He's certainly won against stronger opponents, but his overall vs Zerg record is fairly unimpressive. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On October 02 2017 01:57 [Svall]Granis wrote: INnoVation will win, ezpz Also i dont like that it isnt 16 best player based on WCS points (if i understood it correctly) It is, but 8 for each circuit. Not the most equal distribution, I grant it to you. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3426 Posts
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