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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 01 2017 15:30 GMT
#21
Btw, Serral just 3-1'd Solar in Take's Penthouse Party. He is a monster in ZvZ now, sweeping both Snute and Elazer 3-0 and beating Solar.
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-01 15:32:05
October 01 2017 15:31 GMT
#22
On October 02 2017 00:29 youngjiddle wrote:
I am cheering for you snute! In recent years the spotlight has moved off you to other big players like neeb and serral, and I think you and the team liquid sponsership are underappreciated. I'm still your fan, I think your group isn't that bad and you will get out.

As for the other groups, group B is a fan favorite group. I think it's a group where a lot of people will be disappointed whoever doesn't make it out. If neeb makes it out we will probably have more balance whining from even though neeb is going to be so practiced in this matchup.

In group C I how hero gets out because of the little protoss representation. He should get out, it's the easiest group imo otherwise.

And group D is the group of death. Not sure what will happen, any predictions?

Gumiho + Inno is my safe prediction
Not to say that I have no faith in Serral, cuz him making it out would be the bomb
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Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
October 01 2017 15:32 GMT
#23
On October 02 2017 00:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2017 23:57 LastAergerer wrote:
The fact that Neeb only has to practice against a single race is a significant advantage.

2017 GSL Code S season 3 Classic had 3 Zergs's in his group and so he only had to practice vs zerg, yet he still finished last in his group.
It's not about how many races you have to play against, it's about how good you are in that matchup.
Granted Solar and TY both had 2 terrans in their group and finshed first place but my point still stands


Yep but classic sucks against zerg... can't say the same for neeb
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-01 15:38:51
October 01 2017 15:36 GMT
#24
On October 02 2017 00:32 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 00:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
On October 01 2017 23:57 LastAergerer wrote:
The fact that Neeb only has to practice against a single race is a significant advantage.

2017 GSL Code S season 3 Classic had 3 Zergs's in his group and so he only had to practice vs zerg, yet he still finished last in his group.
It's not about how many races you have to play against, it's about how good you are in that matchup.
Granted Solar and TY both had 2 terrans in their group and finshed first place but my point still stands


Yep but classic sucks against zerg... can't say the same for neeb

yeah but we are talking about Rogue and soO

not Elazer, True, Nerchio, Serral or Snute, not to say they are bad; just that their ZvP is not on Rogue and soO's level

The last time that Neeb beat a korean Zerg (that is not True) was in August where he 3-0'd Solar in Olimoleague
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bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
October 01 2017 15:36 GMT
#25
My bet is 2 foreigners in the RO8. Can't say who they will be, and the highest chances are Neeb's, but the others can also do it.

TY's latest form isn't close to that of the beginning of the year (same goes for soO I think), so Snute has a chance in group A. Stats is going to be first there.

A lot can happen in ZvZ, so Nercho has a small chance, we do remember what happened last year in a group with 3 zergs. Unlike herO, Neeb is the master of the macro and late game, so it will be tough for Rouge. Won't be surprised if Neeb will be first in that group, but in that group everything can happen with 3 zergs.

Dark will probably take group C, but even though herO's chances aren't smaller then Elazer's, Elazer's ZvP is his strongest match-up, so I won't be surprised if Elazer will make it second out of that group.

If I had to bet then its Gumiho out of group D rather then Serral. But Serral has a chance. He beat Byun on the Korean server yesterday, so its not like his ZvT is garbage. Innovation will make first out of this group, and among those who will finish first I think its the safest bet.

The chances of the foreigners aren't that high, but I do see 2 of them in the RO8, and Neeb can even take his group I think. Neeb and 1 of Snute, Elazer, Serral, or Nerchio (in the order from the highest to the lowest chances).
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 01 2017 15:38 GMT
#26
We better get a preview like the 2015 global finals one again, that shit was amazing
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
October 01 2017 15:40 GMT
#27
i think neeb and serral have the strongest chance of the foreigners, then major and snute, then the other 4
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-01 15:43:11
October 01 2017 15:41 GMT
#28
On October 02 2017 00:36 bulya wrote:
My bet is 2 foreigners in the RO8. Can't say who they will be, and the highest chances are Neeb's, but the others can also do it.

TY's latest form isn't close to that of the beginning of the year (same goes for soO I think), so Snute has a chance in group A. Stats is going to be first there.

A lot can happen in ZvZ, so Nercho has a small chance, we do remember what happened last year in a group with 3 zergs. Unlike herO, Neeb is the master of the macro and late game, so it will be tough for Rouge. Won't be surprised if Neeb will be first in that group, but in that group everything can happen with 3 zergs.

Dark will probably take group C, but even though herO's chances aren't smaller then Elazer's, Elazer's ZvP is his strongest match-up, so I won't be surprised if Elazer will make it second out of that group.

If I had to bet then its Gumiho out of group D rather then Serral. But Serral has a chance. He beat Byun on the Korean server yesterday, so its not like his ZvT is garbage. Innovation will make first out of this group, and among those who will finish first I think its the safest bet.

The chances of the foreigners aren't that high, but I do see 2 of them in the RO8, and Neeb can even take his group I think. Neeb and 1 of Snute, Elazer, Serral, or Nerchio (in the order from the highest to the lowest chances).

Who wins when a Master of late game PvZ (Neeb) meets a Master of late game ZvP (Rogue)?

the won who pulls off a more successful Guerrilla warfare aka who can harass better.
The battle between an Unstoppable force (Rogue) and an Immovable object (Neeb)
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
October 01 2017 15:47 GMT
#29
On October 02 2017 00:32 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 00:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
On October 01 2017 23:57 LastAergerer wrote:
The fact that Neeb only has to practice against a single race is a significant advantage.

2017 GSL Code S season 3 Classic had 3 Zergs's in his group and so he only had to practice vs zerg, yet he still finished last in his group.
It's not about how many races you have to play against, it's about how good you are in that matchup.
Granted Solar and TY both had 2 terrans in their group and finshed first place but my point still stands


Yep but classic sucks against zerg... can't say the same for neeb

pretty sure Classic has better PvZ than Neeb
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Kruver
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico14 Posts
October 01 2017 15:50 GMT
#30
+ Show Spoiler +
Group A: TY, Stats (in whatever order)
Group B: Rogue First, Neeb
Group C: herO, Dark (in whatever order)
Group D: INnoVation, Gumiho (in whatever order)


optimism
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
October 01 2017 15:52 GMT
#31
Wow that's a lot of Zergs at Blizzcon.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
October 01 2017 16:04 GMT
#32
On October 02 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 00:32 Clazziquai10 wrote:
On October 02 2017 00:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
On October 01 2017 23:57 LastAergerer wrote:
The fact that Neeb only has to practice against a single race is a significant advantage.

2017 GSL Code S season 3 Classic had 3 Zergs's in his group and so he only had to practice vs zerg, yet he still finished last in his group.
It's not about how many races you have to play against, it's about how good you are in that matchup.
Granted Solar and TY both had 2 terrans in their group and finshed first place but my point still stands


Yep but classic sucks against zerg... can't say the same for neeb

pretty sure Classic has better PvZ than Neeb


no doubt, people still underestimate Classic after all because he doesn't play versus easy players.
IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
October 01 2017 16:15 GMT
#33
Neeb, Snute and Serral gonna make it boys

A: Stats, Snute
B: Neeb, Rogue
C: Dark, herO
D: Innovation, Serral
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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
October 01 2017 16:16 GMT
#34
On October 02 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 00:32 Clazziquai10 wrote:
On October 02 2017 00:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
On October 01 2017 23:57 LastAergerer wrote:
The fact that Neeb only has to practice against a single race is a significant advantage.

2017 GSL Code S season 3 Classic had 3 Zergs's in his group and so he only had to practice vs zerg, yet he still finished last in his group.
It's not about how many races you have to play against, it's about how good you are in that matchup.
Granted Solar and TY both had 2 terrans in their group and finshed first place but my point still stands


Yep but classic sucks against zerg... can't say the same for neeb

pretty sure Classic has better PvZ than Neeb

then how come Neeb's vZ Aligluac rating is 600 points higher
for real though, even if comparing ratings for foreigner vs. korean doesn't make much sense, Neeb is the first foreigner to top the rankings since Stephano at his peak which is pretty crazy. I think Stephano's #1 is from before Aligulac actually went live but their back log of games is pretty good
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 01 2017 16:34 GMT
#35
wow so many of you have more faith in Neeb than me, I feel ashamed
Faker is the GOAT!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
October 01 2017 16:36 GMT
#36
On October 02 2017 01:15 IArako wrote:
Neeb, Snute and Serral gonna make it boys

A: Stats, Snute
B: Neeb, Rogue
C: Dark, herO
D: Innovation, Serral


Your ro8 looks so unimpressive, i dont know why
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[Svall]Granis
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Sweden94 Posts
October 01 2017 16:57 GMT
#37
INnoVation will win, ezpz

Also i dont like that it isnt 16 best player based on WCS points (if i understood it correctly)
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1208 Posts
October 01 2017 17:00 GMT
#38
On October 02 2017 01:04 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 00:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 02 2017 00:32 Clazziquai10 wrote:
On October 02 2017 00:20 AzAlexZ wrote:
On October 01 2017 23:57 LastAergerer wrote:
The fact that Neeb only has to practice against a single race is a significant advantage.

2017 GSL Code S season 3 Classic had 3 Zergs's in his group and so he only had to practice vs zerg, yet he still finished last in his group.
It's not about how many races you have to play against, it's about how good you are in that matchup.
Granted Solar and TY both had 2 terrans in their group and finshed first place but my point still stands


Yep but classic sucks against zerg... can't say the same for neeb

pretty sure Classic has better PvZ than Neeb


no doubt, people still underestimate Classic after all because he doesn't play versus easy players.



He's certainly won against stronger opponents, but his overall vs Zerg record is fairly unimpressive.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
October 01 2017 17:05 GMT
#39
On October 02 2017 01:57 [Svall]Granis wrote:
INnoVation will win, ezpz

Also i dont like that it isnt 16 best player based on WCS points (if i understood it correctly)


It is, but 8 for each circuit. Not the most equal distribution, I grant it to you.
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
October 01 2017 17:50 GMT
#40
Is it known when the groups will be played?
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